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Look tvc184 I'm not asking you to know the history of Silsbee/Jasper or any other team. If you would venture out and look on this web site you can find a lot of history on any team. Being a Southeast Texas football fan one should know a little about Southeast Texas football not just one little corner. People like it better when you can talk about a varity of things. You say you have been watching Ned/PNG since the early 60's and you have never heard people talk about Silsbee/Jasper. You need to get out and get a clue. Southeast Texas football fans talk about all teams in Southeast Texas. It's just what we do. We all love our home teams and some we hate, but we talk about all of them. It's fun, it really is. You should try it, you'll like it. If you want to know when Silsbee/Jasper started playing, look it up. It's on the web site.

yes and I saw that, and Congra to her. I just want people to realize if your going to talk about best around player I feel thats its courtney wilson. She can do everything and is a All around player not just one one-dimensional.

Shark, I understand where your coming from and respect your point of view. Being a senior I understand that the Vidor program has come a very long way in the past 4 years. Please don’t mind allot of the "trash talk" that goes on because a majority of these posts are not done by the soccer team. All the insulting names and posts have come from fans and friends of the players. I thank you for commenting us on having a good team and hope you will get to watch us once again. The mentality of the team right now is set on winning district. That may sound ludicrous since Lumberton has emerged as the dominate team, but, we are very confident we can beat them. I apologize for any crude/ offensive comments that have been posted. And by the way, this is one of Vidor’s captains and I want to thank you on the compliment.

wow lhsraideralumni why dont you get a life and realize were a bunch of kids playin around with eachother so if you dont like the post were sayin then dont read them or make your own forum to write about and you can talk to your self... thanks -The Vidor soccer team

My point exactly....they mean nothing. I was not suggesting that you not be able to express your opinion (PLEASE!) that is the whole point of a forum. And I was just expressing MY opinion. I anticipated a negative reaction.... so now that that's said and done... let's talk about something MORE INTERESTING - like - who's going to be the toughest competition for the Lady Tigers and Lady Bobcats in the playoffs? What's YOUR opinion?

OF's Shores ready for playoff push Gabriel Pruett The Orange Leader ORANGEFIELD — Orangefield senior Jessica Shores has always been able to spot up and drain a three-pointer. Shooting and making plays on both offense and defense is almost second nature. Speaking out and being loud, those two traits took a little time to develop for Shores. Now that she has become vocal on the basketball court, Orangefield Coach Sondra Ancelot has been one happy lady. It really has nothing to do with basketball. Ancelot has just enjoyed watching a young freshman turn into quite a fine young lady. “One of the best things for a coach is to see players go from kids to young adults,†Ancelot said. “It is neat to see them go from followers when they are young to being leaders. She (Shores) is right there in the middle of that mold. She does not like to lose and that right there makes her a winner.†Shores knows her place on a team filled of different roles needed to be filled. Any of about four to five Lady Bobcats can lead the team in scoring each night, steals come in bunches for numerous players and passing the ball around is a must. For Shores, there can only be one girl who is heard above all other voices. “I am the vocal leader,†Shores said. “I seem to be very loud. Instead of being annoying, I use it as a positive. Other players do not always know what to say so I seem to be the one to talk. I like being loud and screaming. “It wasn’t always like this. I was very shy as a freshman and very timid. This team doesn’t care who scores the most. We just want to win and do our jobs.†With the pieces falling into place and each girl doing their own job, the Lady Bobcats are now No. 9 in the state poll and are sitting in a two-way tie with No. 10 Silsbee for the District 21-3A crown. Shores does not want to just tie for the district championship and go a few rounds deep. A trip to Austin her senior year sounds like too much of a good time to pass up. “What we did last year is very exciting to look back on,†Shores said referring to the Lady Bobcats’ push all the way to the regional final. “In 10 years I will be able to look back and really enjoy that time,†she added. “Playing at a college arena (Sam Houston State University) is something I’ll always remember. Now it is time to have twice as much fun and go to Austin.†Shores knows the trip is not a given by a long shot. District 21-3A could be considered one of the toughest districts in the state, giving the Lady Bobcats every chance to get playoff ready. “The district season is narrowing down for us,†Shores explained. “It has been fun to compete around here because there are some tough teams. Everyday the seniors on this team talk about this being our last year and how we are going to leave with no regrets. We want to set the example and bar so all the following teams have something to look upon.†Ancelot agrees this year’s squad has the chance to accomplish any goal they set before themselves. “These kids, including Jessica, have a chance to do some special things,†Ancelot said. “I expect nothing less than a special senior season for them. They stay so close together and are such a close knit bunch. It is a tight little circle of players and friends. It helps that they are just as determined as I am.†The fun is not always confined to being on the basketball court with all her friends for Shores. “Being on the team and going on all the road trips is a blast,†Shores said. “I love it. We make sure to make the road trips a better time.†Shores and Co. have made the road their home in the second half of district play with big games away from Orangefield in Silsbee, Kirbyville and West Orange. After losing their first district game of the season at home against Silsbee, the Lady Bobcats are 9-0 since. Two of the wins came at Silsbee and at Kirbyvile. Orangefield plays at West Orange-Stark on Feb. 2. “We were in a slump that first district game,†Shores said. “All it did was make us work harder. We know we can be better than anyone. Our last year, we are going to be the best we can be at all times.â€

Judge clears way for Mayo to play; coach claims vengeful ref to blame for situation Updated 1/30/2007 6:28 PM ET E-mail | Save | Print | HUNTINGTON, W. Va. — Prep basketball star O.J. Mayo, who won a court order Tuesday blocking a two-game suspension, was the victim of a vengeful referee who wanted him to "keep his mouth shut," his coach said in court documents. Mayo and five Huntington High teammates were cleared to play in a high-profile matchup Tuesday night after a judge prohibited state athletic officials from imposing the suspensions. Huntington (15-0), No. 2 in the latest USA TODAY national rankings, was scheduled to play No. 11 Artesia (21-1) of Lakewood, Calif., as part of the HoopHall Classic in Durham, N.C. The tournament also featured two other teams ranked in the top 10: No. 3 Oak Hill Academy of Mouth of Wilson, Va., against No. 6 Mater Dei of Santa Ana, Calif. "We did get a little victory," Mike Woelfel, Mayo's attorney and an assistant coach at Huntington, said Tuesday. "O.J. is relieved and eagerly looks forward to competing." Cabell County Circuit Judge Dan O'Hanlon set a Feb. 9 hearing for Mayo and the other players. Mayo, who signed a letter-of-intent in November to play next season at Southern California, received two technical fouls in the fourth quarter of Friday's game with Capital and was ejected, triggering an automatic two-game suspension. Five teammates, all reserves, also received two-game suspensions for leaving the bench area. According to referee Mike Lazo's account to the Secondary School Activities Commission, he cited Mayo with the first technical foul for taunting an opponent. Instead of going to the scorer's table to report the first technical, Lazo followed a group of players who had gathered at midcourt. After Mayo twice was told to stay away from the same player, Lazo assessed a second technical. Mayo, hoping to plead his case, followed Lazo to the scorer's table and Lazo fell. "As I turned my head towards him he came in contact (with) me, causing me to fall to the floor. While I was on the floor, (Mayo) was using profanity," Lazo said. Under state rules, a student who "in protest lays hands or attempts to lay hands upon an official" can be declared ineligible for up to a year. In his court filing, Woelfel said witness accounts contradicted Lazo. Huntington coach Lloyd McGuffin said in a statement Lazo indicated at the beginning of the game that "Mayo better not talk with him tonight because he is not going to put up with him at all. He said he needs to keep his mouth shut." During the game, Mayo told his teammates during a huddle at the free-throw line to stay out of foul trouble. Lazo interrupted, "telling him he needs to be worried about himself because he is going to toss him out of the game if he doesn't shut up," McGuffin's statement said. McGuffin said after the second technical was called, Mayo and Lazo bumped into one another. "Lazo then gets his feet tangled and takes a couple of steps and flops his arms and fakes a fall," the coach said. Mayo, considered one of the nation's top seniors, transferred to Huntington last fall after leading Cincinnati's North College Hill to two Ohio Division III championships. Huntington has won back-to-back Class AAA titles in West Virginia. "I never wanted to come and (have) this happen," Mayo told WSAZ-TV shortly before leaving for North Carolina. Under SSAC rules, if a student plays under a restraining order that is later reversed, the team could be forced to forfeit any victories in which the student played. Woelfel accused the SSAC of denying due process to suspended players. "The judge wants to look at that issue," Woelfel said. Also, SSAC rules aren't clear whether punishments can be imposed during out-of-state games, he said. SSAC Executive Director Mike Hayden, who met privately with Mayo and his family at Huntington High on Tuesday, didn't immediately return a telephone message.

So whitewood are you proud of the fact you area physical crap talking team. Ashame, taking soccer and bringing back old vidor soccer or should i say.. making it american football. What I saw ofyou all was you were pretty descent. But from the stands you dont hear the smack talk. Didnt see alot of physical play but maybe my one game wasnt enouph. Be proud to be a soccer player, not a football.

They can't talk about going to state just yet because they have to get past this tough district first.

Don't all the teams play each other twice in district? Isn't a little early to talk about a district championship? But I do agree Lumberton is the team to beat, I see thing this way for the top 3.... 1. Lumberton 2. PN-G 3. Vidor or Nederland

Hey guys, can we grow up a little, please? This forum is for soccer discussion, not juvenile name calling. Take you personal aggendas elsewhere so we don't lose this opportunity to talk about local high school soccer.

If you guys want to talk about football, take it to the football page. Let's not ruin a great district race and the hard work of all these teams.

Wow flopped, where is this Austin place you speak of. It sounds like a sort of Utopia. I must find this place. I will hitch my team of mules to the wagon, gather the family and set out to find this Austin place. If I start today maybe we can be there by Friday. I bet it has 5,000 to 6,000 folks there to here you talk about it. The kids will be so excited to see that many people all in one town.

It wasnt even a kelly person that started to talk about kirby first. but i totally agree. Even if kirby was the best in the world (which im not saying he is), kelly is not a 4-a school, and he should not be mentioned in a 4-a forum

leger is a great player, great foot skill and he has speed. but he's not unstoppable, anyone can be stopped. he is faster than the rest of the forwars so sometimes he can get stranded by himself and get the ball taken away. he can play anywhere you put him, forwards just his strong point....oh and arsenal, since you trash so many other players, lets hear how good you are. i mean just the way you talk bad on other players make you sound like your a golden god of soccer.

You are a tad moody. I'm glad I don't have to associate with you in the "real world." As a former athlete, I do know that drug testing is a good deterrent. It is definitly not the final solution, but a good start. Basicly, your argument seems to be, Drug testing doesn't work, so let's not do anything. Your argument goes from catching the sellers to counseling the kids after caught. Talk about sitting down, or having a better argument. I still haven't heard your solution through the sarcasm. I for one am on the front line here trying to deter kids from doing stupid things, and I feel good about the progress we have made at my school. If drug testing helps coaches like me, who are trying their best to keep kids from doing things that hurt themselves, than I'm all for it. When I tell a kid all the bad things about steroids, a lot of time it goes in one ear and out the other......when I tell them they won't be able to participate in sports if they get caught doing it, it really rings a bell. I have several powerlifters who actually have a great chance at winning State. The State Champion is drug tested. I feel pretty confident my lifters are drug free. I talk to them about staying clean all the time. If the state champion wasn't tested, then kids would be willing to do stupid stuff to get there. I also like knowing that my clean lifters are on a level playing field at competitions. Again, drug testing is a start, it's not the final solution, but definitly a positive start. Some people gripe about the world (standardized testing, drug testing for example) and do nothing but complain with all that is wrong, while others look for solutions.

Seriously, send them to parenting school and maybe they can pass some stupid "test" the government has dreamed up to deem them fit to be parents. It's nice to see you have no suggestions of your own. Must be a "yes" man. Just discredit my opinion and leave it at that. Just because I don't agree with you, then I must be wrong. Do you have kids? If not, then sit down. To stop the drug problem, you have to start at the top. Where are these kids getting the drugs? Ahhh, too much money to be made on both sides of that equation, but it's a start. After the kid is kicked off the team, are we implementing a counseling program at school (another parenting responsibility dumped in someone else's lap)? How isolated that kid must be. Yeah, I know, he shouldn't have done it, but still too negative for a teenager to have to deal with. Kids need positive stimuli. Are you really naive enough to think that catching a few kids will stop the drug problem? Please, come back and talk to me when you are armed with a better solution than random-testing drug-free kids.

keep deleting tvc..I am gone you have ran me off this board..I am out ..to all the guys that were nice to talk to see you later.. to the people who abuse there power ,keep it up and there wont be a board to post on here.. piratefan

haha....agreed. but it is HS soccer talk. and kellys a highschool. im kinda tired of hearing about kelly because most of us have seen them play and know how good they are. but we have to include them. lets be more specific in the new topic next time. instead of saying best player, say best player in 20-4a. that might help a wee bit.

Piratefan and tvc184 - - - - Grow up!!!! - - - - talk about the subject or get each others phone number

Lamar women's soccer program closer to fruition BEAUMONT - Matthew Dillon has something to say. It's not a long message, really; just short and to the point. To his wife, Gina, and to his son Zachary, he offers this up: thank you. It's for all those lost weekends that Dillon, the new women's soccer coach at Lamar University, has spent in Houston or Fort Worth or some other outpost, chasing down teenage girls, convincing them to play on the school's first team. It's for all the upcoming weekends this summer and fall, which Dillon will spend ordering shin guards and taking the team on its first set of road trips. "They're the best," Dillon said. "It takes a lot for them, for any family, to support a coach. So I try to tell them all the time how much I appreciate it." In two weeks, the Lamar soccer program will receive letters of intent from its first recruiting class - some from junior-college transfers, others from walk-ons already on campus, but mostly from high school seniors. Together, they'll try to create the kind of magic that happened 280 miles west of Beaumont on Interstate 10 last fall. There, Texas-San Antonio - in its first year of competitive women's soccer - finished second in the Southland Conference standings. It can be done, Dillon said, whether it's next season or shortly thereafter. But with the first game just seven months away, plenty of work remains. A rundown of everything that happens from here to there: å Recruiting. Regardless of sport or school, recruiting is the lifeblood of any college program, since no team wins without talented players. For a start-up program like the one at Lamar, however, recruiting has taken almost all of Dillon's time since the coach arrived here Aug. 1. Lamar will announce its first class of players on what is commonly referred to as national signing day, which is Feb. 7 this year. But this class will be different from any other in the Southland Conference because of sheer volume. In programs that are already up and running, teams might sign a half-dozen athletes each year. But Dillon has to bring them all in at once - and he can't bring in an entire class of freshmen. Dillon, who cannot talk about specific recruits because of NCAA rules, said he has about 15 commitments already, with the expectation of signing 18 to 24. Although he'd like to have a few more experienced players on the roster, Dillon said he expected about six junior-college transfers and about six students who are on campus already. The rest are freshmen. So how do you sell recruits on something that doesn't exist? "You've got to sell the kids, or talk to the kids, about potential," Dillon said. "Obviously at Lamar, the potential is in their education. None of these kids are coming here to become pro soccer players. There's no professional league anymore. The best they can aspire to is the national team, and it'd be great if they can get on the national team. But the bottom line is the kids come to school for education." å Finding an assistant coach. Until now, Dillon has done all the heavy lifting by himself. He'll have some help soon enough. Dillon has gotten the go-ahead to hire an assistant coach this spring, keeping in line with most of his competitors. While some Southland Conference schools have as many as three coaches, most programs have a head coach and an assistant. The model worked at Texas-San Antonio, where the administration hired Steve Ballard in 2005 and gave him more than a year to start up the program. "Ideally you want to have a coach on campus a year in advance of your first season," said Liz Dalton, associate athletics director and senior women's administrator at UTSA. "At first, when we added soccer we tried to play that very next year. But we ran into some problems ... and we just couldn't do it. So I think the way we did it, and the way Lamar looks like they're doing it, is the best way to go." Dillon said Lamar will likely post the position as early as next month, with the intent to hire an assistant coach in May or June. "Hiring an assistant is probably the biggest thing this spring," he said. å Equipment. As with players, established programs only need to update and replenish some equipment from year to year. With seven months before the regular season begins, Lamar has to buy it all. UTSA, anticipating the start of the program a year in advance, added extra money in its 2005-06 budget to buy soccer equipment. Otherwise, the soccer program wouldn't have the money until August - when the season begins. Dillon said Lamar has not yet bought most of the equipment it needs, but that bids and purchases will begin early this summer. He also expects that to be one of the first true logistical headaches of the program's first year. "Equipment, I'm sure that there's going to be some fires with that when we order things in June," Dillon said. "Oh, we couldn't get those shorts we needed, or they only come in guys' sizes - that kind of stuff. But at this point, there hasn't been a big fire to put out yet." å Facilities. Dillon went ahead and said it Monday afternoon: Lamar is discussing the possibility of a soccer-only facility. For the first season, however, the team will practice and play in Cardinal Stadium - whose field is a bit smaller than the standard college soccer field (120 yards long, 75 yards wide) but within NCAA regulations. "Cardinal Stadium will be a little bit tight on that, just because it was built for football and not for soccer," Dillon said. "But there is some talk about building a facility for us, hopefully for the '08 season, whether it be by baseball (Vincent-Beck Stadium) or even where the old football practice facility might be (behind J.B. Higgins Field House). We're not really sure yet, but the talking phase is kind of where we're at."

Hunter kills dual-sex 'devil deer' Brady Aymond [email protected] When Youngsville's Craig Lewis set out to hunt on an either-sex deer day at Tony's Ranch in Ringgold, he never knew it would literallly be an either-sex day. Lewis set up in his stand at 5:30 a.m. and around 7 a.m. spotted a small deer near his feeder. As he battled through the mist and the rain to spot the deer in his scope, another deer moved into sight. This one was much bigger than its companion. "When I looked up, all I could see was the body," Lewis said. "It was big, like a horse. But its head was down, so I couldn't tell if it was a buck or not. But with it being an either-sex day, I knew I had to take the shot. "I hit it and it ran maybe five feet, then jumped into the woods." Lewis exited his stand in search of the deer. What he found stopped him in his tracks. "I get to the deer and I call out to my friend Perry," Lewis said. "He gets there and the first thing he says is 'What the hell is that?' "I noticed it had a rack, but it was really fat and covered with velvet. The first thing I could think of was 'My only buck has cancer in the head.'" Upon further examination of the deer, Lewis realized his head wasn't the only problem. "Well, he had male organs, but no testicles," Lewis said. "So, I knew he was a boy, but something wasn't adding up." It wasn't until Lewis brought the head to a local taxidermist that his thoughts were confirmed. He had killed a buck...and a doe. "The taxidermist said it looked like the deer was born a buck, but developed doe features somewhere down the road," Lewis said. "It was just the weirdest thing, because from the eyes down, it looks like a doe. But it's got a rack and was built like a buck. "To be honest, I still don't know what I killed." The rack had only three developed points, but Lewis said the deer had approximately 50 tines. "The antler was so big you could barely close your hand around it," Lewis said. All told, the buck/doe weighed a robust 239 pounds. Lewis said the deer produced pretty meat, but he or his friends have yet to taste it. "My friends are tripping out big-time," Lewis said. "They call it the 'Devil Deer.' Some of them don't even want any meat. I'm kind of skeptical about eating it myself. "We're going to have a little cookout one day and I'll get someone to try the meat." Lewis' deer's head will be on display at the February 10 Beast Fest in Coushatta, an annual event held in the small North Louisiana town. The deer will also be featured in the March edition of Louisiana Sportsman's Magazine. "It's been a lot of fun," Lewis said. "Everybody's calling to talk about the deer. It's just a crazy deer, that's all it is. I consider myself fortunate because I've only been hunting for two years and people spend a lifetime without getting a kill like this." for a Picture heres a link [Hidden Content]

First off Bon Mot, Kelly Soccer does not recruit at all, are school gives us no money for scholarships and doesnt give us any respect at all. Every starter with the exception of our goalie grew up in a private school and are going to a private high school because thats where they wanted to go... But lets talk about Stockie the keeper and the only starter not to go to private school there whole life. IF you ask him the reason he came to kelly is because he heard bad things about other area coaches and decided he wanted to win and play for an amazing soccer program not because a coach came and talked to him. So if you saying Kelly recruits soccer players is honestly one of the stupidest things that ive read on these forums. Second off, i agree a rematch with lumberton would be a better game but im still gonna put the Dawgs as the winners of that match, but im not saying that with any disrespect to Lumberton the they are a great team and easily the number 2 team in this area

It is only possible if both teams make it to the regional finals. If it were to happen talk about a battle.

lol the guy posted stuff about his own self........and made up his own screen name so people can talk about him.........I stupid is that......and of course its coming from somebody thats from Lumberton has to make up there own sn and talk about his self on here........