thetragichippy

You guys are still asking for handouts........refineries, board members, etc..... No one has made any suggestion about a parent meeting! Why not a parent meeting? After all, who is ultimately responsible for getting their kids to practice? I never road the bus, I car pooled until high school. Parents can come together and make this work. I hope the parents just don't sit there and expect the school district to take care of their kids. As for economics, my son wants a dirt bike................he's not getting one (too expensive this year). However, I may look throughout the year and find him a "USED" one or a "fixer upper". That's called adjusting in our economics that we have going right now.

ENGLISH LESSON....... I was going to translate this to English and make it even more humorous, but I don't have three hours to spend on it. The statements he is trying to make have no merit. He should go back to posting on myspace!

One thing I would like to point out is that alot of "single parent" families are composed of MOTHERS and KIDS, no all are fortunate enough to still have a DAD involved. I say this because alot of the single parent families we are discussing are WOMEN and economics tell us that a women considered "uneducated" and I mean without college degrees cannot find these 8-5 M-F jobs and make enough to much less pay the rent. I say if the parents of the students want to have this service provided, then offer it as a fare. This way the district will not be expected to cover the cost, which TEA is pushing limits the district can spend outside the classroom, and the parents will not have to worry about their kids getting home safely! The most important thing we have is the safety of our kids!!! Well, without trying to put my personal life on a stage, I am a college drop out! I do not have a college education. I worked hard, worked long hours and set goals for myself. The older I got, the more serious I got. I'm not Einstein, if I can do it, anyone can! I think it's extremely sad to see "single parent" families struggle. I just hope these parents are not using the school district as a babysitter, expecting pick up and delivery. My ex-wife could really care less about football or any sport, but she is there every practice supporting her kid! Probably the only thing we agreed on ;)

Its the parents responsibility, I don't care where you are from.!!!! I worked retail all my life and worked a lot of nights. This was ok in a two parent family. When I got divorced, I took a significant pay cut and got a Monday - Friday job. I also got joint custody and my son lives with me 50% of the time. I now bring him to all his practices(plays 3 sports) and pick him up everyday after school. He's also my fishin buddy! With the decrease in my salary, we cant do as much but I'm with him all the time. My house is up for sale so I can buy a smaller one that I can afford. I bring this up not to be "super dad", but to show that people can do whatever they want if their priorities are right. I'm sure most parents(even single parents like me) could find a way to get their kids to practice, if that's the priority!

WHAT ARE THE WEIGHT RESTRICTIONS IN HIGH SCHOOL???????? ANYONE????? I'm just curious.... There are no weight restrictions in High School football. Your right. You see Bigworm, there are rules and guidelines in every sport. They are for the well being of all players. To compare peewee to high school football is a stretch, a big stretch. Think about it. By the time they are in high school they are better prepared to take a hit and not get hurt. That's why this is and should be called developmental football. When the kids are older, they are better developed and all this training they are getting at such a young age will be useful WHEN they get to high school. But for now, we should DISCUSS if the weight limits will be tweaked or left alone. I really don't think they are going away!

Fair enough BigD, I agree with some of what you said. My son consistently could block and get through kids weighing almost 30 pounds more. He's a tough one. At the same time, I'm not sure I would want 30 additional pounds hitting him like I see some of the hard hitters do. I would like my son to at least reach age 9 before be needs physical therapy. ;D

We must be reading something completely different and I may need to look up what "rules" mean. I thought rules were meant for everyone, not just select teams. This thread was supposed to be a discussion (not argument) about tweaking the requirements to be more fair. No one in this forum can change the rules without a vote. Its just a discussion. At the end of the day, weather you like it or not, the rules may be changed as majority will rule. As for excuses, I've heard a few, but that came from the fans, not coaches. I'm from Lumberton and I've given no excuses. My son played on peewee red and WO-S dominated! You guys have some good kids and coaches. If we could of tackled your kids, we might have won!

Why does this discussion keep going back to WOS or more specifically BigWorms kid? The original suggestion would actually help him and kids like him stay as a back because it increases the weight limits. Now the discussion is starting to be about a coach being competitive? There are weight rules already established and nobody is suggesting that weight be used as a tool to win. BigD the rules are there to keep everything safe and fair and I believe the STJFL does a good job in maintaining that focus. Why is WOS so defensive in this topic? No one has made any accusations toward anybody these were only suggestions that ironically would help in the areas WOS is against... There is no reason to get defensive on this thread unless you already know the rules are being broken and you don't wanna get caught. By the way you are acting, maybe bulldogbacker is right and there needs to be more officials at the certifications or at least somebody planted at the scales. As long as a player doesn't go over 115 pound mark throughout the year there would be no problem. I can't understand why it would be a problem to give an opposing coach a chance to challenge a player's weight. This was TeamRaiders thread and the subject was "STJFL Weight Limits" not "make excuses for your kids" or "put words into peoples mouths" (one for you QueenB)...... Teamraider was not attacking anyone as far as I can see. I see his point, why is everyone so defensive? This discussion took off in a completely different direction than it was intended. Why cant both sides discuss something without turning it in to an argument?? Now, lets see how many insults I receive after stating the obvious!

Are we not getting a little deep here?

Could we use better Ref's???? YES ---- However, they are human and can't possibly watch every player on the field. The fact is the game is over and winners were decided. I wish the outcome would have been all Lumberton, but that's not what happen. WO-S has some great players and apparently some great coaches. I really thought Lumberton white PeeWee would have taken them, but they didn't. You win some and loose the rest! There is always next year! I think arguing and insulting about a game is on the childish side........But if you do argue, using spell check will make your argument more believable! ;D

WO-S pee wee 33 Lumberton red 0 Need I say more. I told you we would win by more than 21 points. A lot of talent in WO-S. Lumberton lost its drive when both coaches were suspended. I think it would of been very different had the original coaches played till the end. The kids did not give up, so I'm proud of the team for that. Congratulations WO-S pee wee on a game well played!! BTW, what do yall feed those kids?. They would get hit and never fall!

All Im saying is you would never catch someone from West Orange Stark doing what you did... I have seen your post and you seem to thrive on conflict. Well, I'm not even a "helper". I guess I was "thriving" on conflict by answering a guys question about an offense he had a question about. What ever happened to its just a game.??? I'm pretty sure most coaches with a video camera could figure out this mystery offense. Sorry teamraider, I'm just a normal spectator that researched the offense and found that information. I also know how to shut down that offense, but that's TOP SECRET!

Basically the backfield squats down tight around the center. The defensive line cant see who the ball is given to so they have a hard time knowing which way the ball is going. I think the real name is single wing offense. Its a single wing offense with a lot of misdirection. A coach developed it and took his team to nationals. They were called the screaming eagles. Do a google because there is a website about this offense. There are several towns out there such as WOS and Nederland with multiple teams in the same division. They are rivals of sorts but respect each others game. I've seen both WOS teams talking smack to each other for the last 3 weeks... What I have never seen is one of those teams sell the other out by posting their strategies on a public forum. A couple of years ago the Lumberton Pee Wee White coach spent months during the off season researching to come up with a good offense program. The way I understand it, he devised it from about four he had looked at along with some of his own ideas. He has been successful with it for several years now so for another Lumberton coach to post information from one of his sources is a lack of class that I have never seen from any sport on any level. Even if the information he is giving wasn't correct... The fact he thought he WAS giving out the secret is enough to make him cheap. I'd like to know if there is any other coach out there that would sell out another team in their own town. Because I can't figure out a single reason why anyone would do that! I'm not a coach for Lumberton football. I do have eyes and see their offense. I did not say anything that noone could not google or watch a film and see it. Do you really think that offense is a big secret?? I have only been on this forum a few days, but it appears when you cant find something good to attack someone with, you make up something..........

You know player 666, whats creepy is the attention you are giving me. Almost like the girl that's mean to you because she really likes you Thank God I'm married with children........ That really makes alot of sense traffichippy, it sounds to me like you were one of the clowns involved in the whole embarrising situation. And if you were you were not involved you should not try to take up for idiot coaches that your league put on the field. The board is in charge of the coaches and if they can not handle them, then the STJFL should. 66 is right on the money. You can surely dish it out but you sure as heck cant take it. :'( You guys apparently cant read. If your trying to kill me with stupidity, then its working.....I'm on my knees....... Roughrider, you made comment to ban both "towns". I call you on that(because it was a stupid suggestion) and I cant take it??? You voice your opinion and its an opinion. I call you on it and I cant take it?? Read my post Roughrider, pay attention, I was not involved. I actually was on Lumberton sideline when this happened and stayed there. I watched it all. My son was one of the players on the team that "watched in horror as the fight broke out". Him and I went to McDonald's after the game and had a talk about it and it was soon forgotten over chicken nuggets. I told him that was two good coaches that really screwed up and that's not what the games about. He's 7 but understood. He looked up to his coach and I will not take that away from either. And by the way, the STJFL made there decisions about all involved and I would assume they are happy with those decisions, why cant you be????????????

I thought replying to a message was staying on topic?

Basically the backfield squats down tight around the center. The defensive line cant see who the ball is given to so they have a hard time knowing which way the ball is going. I think the real name is single wing offense. Its a single wing offense with a lot of misdirection. A coach developed it and took his team to nationals. They were called the screaming eagles. Do a google because there is a website about this offense.

You know player 666, whats creepy is the attention you are giving me. Almost like the girl that's mean to you because she really likes you Thank God I'm married with children........

The attacks hit a nerve. I guess I dint take stupidity well..........been a fault of mine since I was a kid! :-*

I agree Dustjam, a very strange offense but it does work. We(lumberton Red) lost to them by one point. Everybody laying down in the backfield makes for a hard tackle. However, with their record, if the fundamental of the game is wining, then it does work..... ;D

Player 666, you need to get with roughrider, because you could save him a lot of typing if all he said is what you got out of it!

and where exactly did I whiiiinnnnne??????????? I'm sorry I dint fit in with all the high schoolers here (if not, certainly act like it) that like to name call and attack people for voicing concerns. But that's fine, to get on your level, sticks and stones......... :

Player 666, I took the 5 minutes to review some of your post and didn't see much value. What you will find in my post is comments, jokes and my opinion. You will not find name childish name calling or put downs. So, grow up a little and realize this forum is for everyone and not just for a few....freedom of speech, remember! And to your point, instead of me creating a post and staying in my corner, perhaps you should start your own forum and invite the people that "think like you do"!

I watch a lot of Wrestling, sorry! Sorry, for what? I use that term frequently!

She said "slobber knocker "

I don't know roughrider but I'd be willing to bet he was never involved in anything this ridiculous. I did not realize there was so many "PERFECT" people in this world. I guess that explains why Church attendance is down................ : I love how yall act like this is just an ordinary every day mistake. Let me tell you something footballmomma, I am from Nederland and dang proud of it. I helped build the Nederland Youth Football Association as a board member and coach when Nederland first entered into the league. By the way, I ended my coaching career winning a Super Bowl against West Orange Stark in 2006. I have also managed and help form the Texas Roughriders who have played major division select baseball and have traveled all over the United States doing so. I have ran across a lot of irate coaches and have been very irate and insulted as well. But I always had sense enough to remember where I was, whom I was coaching, and why I was there. When you cross the line that both sets of coaches did, you do not deserve the privilege to coach these kids. You are dang right I am not glad I am not from either town because what happened what a flat out embarrassment. Good thing I am not the President of the STJFL, I would kick both towns out of the League! Well, There ya go. That's some great thinkin roughrider! Lets ban the ENTIRE city.......really? That's also probably why you are not President of the STJFL! Just so you know, in 2006 with a population of 16,751, nederland had 66 violent crimes while Lumberton with a population of 9,637 had 19. As you can see even with percentages, Nederland has a higher violent crime percent than Lumberton. So before you start putting down other towns, you may want to look in your own backyard! I used to live in Nederland and its a great community. Your logic makes little sense. Its 2 coaches, not 2 towns! Its people like you that makes things worse! 66 violent crimes and not one of them at a youth sporting event. My point is that the STJFL needs to have a zero tolerance on garbage like that. Nedrland is not better than BC or Lum but dont take up for the idiots. I was not taking up for anyone other than the entire city of Lumberton and Bridge City. You're the one that suggested banning both cities. You're the one that posted your football resume, and you're the one that made little sense. You cant blame a city for the actions of one. Just as no one should hold Nederland as a city accountable for their 66 violent crimes. You must be a pretty smart guy to have done all you said in football. That's great. Don't screw it up by allowing your emotions to cloud that brain in your head.