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    1989NDN reacted to Stattrax in PNG vs FB Willowridge   
    Next man up... Round 2 of the Texas High School Playoffs... You only gotta be good for 4 quarters at a time.. No matter how you do it!!
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    1989NDN got a reaction from prepballfan in Bum Phillips trophy damaged   
    I heard from a third cousin's friend of a friend over in Beaumont that Coach Neumann accidentally knocked the trophy off his desk while filling out UIL transfer papers for a young man from PA...he wanted to ensure the young man would be enrolled with NISD before the secret spring game.  I think BMT Soljua or Jag Insider know the whole story.
    Go Indians.  Peace.
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    1989NDN got a reaction from outanup in Bum Phillips trophy damaged   
    I heard from a third cousin's friend of a friend over in Beaumont that Coach Neumann accidentally knocked the trophy off his desk while filling out UIL transfer papers for a young man from PA...he wanted to ensure the young man would be enrolled with NISD before the secret spring game.  I think BMT Soljua or Jag Insider know the whole story.
    Go Indians.  Peace.
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    1989NDN got a reaction from Sleepy1 in Vidor 31 Port Arthur Memorial 21/FINAL   
    I like my crow with shrimp gumbo.  Congratulations Vidor.  Nice win...no great win.  Major props to Coach Matthews, Vidor coaching staff, and the players.  Time to rally the troops behind all 22-5a playoff teams.  Go Indians, Titans, Pirates, and whoever the 4th place team is...bulldogs, jags, lions (I don't know; whoever it is, you have my support).
    Go Indians.  Peace.
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    1989NDN got a reaction from navydawg31 in 22-5A District Championship...Drain The Swamp!   
    In the first half.  He has good vision, he is quick, and he runs north and south fast.  VHS get 11 defenders to him or he is going to rack up yards and TDs.  Injury free game for both schools.  Play hard, have fun, and see what happens.  PAMs defense is not talked about a lot, but they are big and fast.  I think they will stop the VHS power run game.  No disrespect to VHS.  PAM is just the better team.
    Go Indians.  Peace.
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    1989NDN got a reaction from P.A Texas in da building in Port Arthur Memorial vs Vidor   
    Nope...here's how the game will go.
    1. Vidor has been watering its field, putting out Miracle Grow, and not cutting the grass.  The field looks like a cow pasture with grass 18 inches tall.  Coach Matthews will do anything to slow down PAM's #25.  That's a good plan.
    2. Regardless of the knee high grass, PAM will spread the field and find a match up it likes on the O-line versus Vidor's D-line.  #25 will find that match up and run to daylight.  The Pirates better get 11-defenders to #25.  If he gets to the edge, it's 6-points.  I don't know how fast #25 is in the 40 yard dash, but in full pads he is plenty fast enough. PAM will throw the ball sideways.  Take a chance and load the box to stop #25.  Make PAM throw the ball.  Who knows?  Maybe the PAM WRs get lost in the knee high grass and cant' find the football?
    3. Vidor will try student body right and student body left and PAM's D-line and LBs will be there.  Vidor will try the toss sweep, and PAM will be there.  Vidor will try the misdirection play with both the QB and the TB, and PAM will chase it down.  Vidor will try a pass to the TE or the RB out in the flats and PAM's DBs will not be fooled by the play action and misdirection of the Pirate QB.  I know you want to burn the clock, but 3 yards and a cloud of dust will be difficult against the size and speed of PAM's defense.  Nonetheless, the Pirates should do what they do.  Keep pounding the ball and tell the clock operator to be a tad slow on the stop button.  Keep the clock moving.
    Good luck to both teams.  Play hard for 48 minutes and add up the score at the end.  No injuries.
    Go Indians.  Peace.
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    1989NDN got a reaction from PAT409 in Port Arthur Memorial vs Vidor   
    Nope...here's how the game will go.
    1. Vidor has been watering its field, putting out Miracle Grow, and not cutting the grass.  The field looks like a cow pasture with grass 18 inches tall.  Coach Matthews will do anything to slow down PAM's #25.  That's a good plan.
    2. Regardless of the knee high grass, PAM will spread the field and find a match up it likes on the O-line versus Vidor's D-line.  #25 will find that match up and run to daylight.  The Pirates better get 11-defenders to #25.  If he gets to the edge, it's 6-points.  I don't know how fast #25 is in the 40 yard dash, but in full pads he is plenty fast enough. PAM will throw the ball sideways.  Take a chance and load the box to stop #25.  Make PAM throw the ball.  Who knows?  Maybe the PAM WRs get lost in the knee high grass and cant' find the football?
    3. Vidor will try student body right and student body left and PAM's D-line and LBs will be there.  Vidor will try the toss sweep, and PAM will be there.  Vidor will try the misdirection play with both the QB and the TB, and PAM will chase it down.  Vidor will try a pass to the TE or the RB out in the flats and PAM's DBs will not be fooled by the play action and misdirection of the Pirate QB.  I know you want to burn the clock, but 3 yards and a cloud of dust will be difficult against the size and speed of PAM's defense.  Nonetheless, the Pirates should do what they do.  Keep pounding the ball and tell the clock operator to be a tad slow on the stop button.  Keep the clock moving.
    Good luck to both teams.  Play hard for 48 minutes and add up the score at the end.  No injuries.
    Go Indians.  Peace.
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    1989NDN got a reaction from Finesser in Port Arthur Memorial vs Vidor   
    Nope...here's how the game will go.
    1. Vidor has been watering its field, putting out Miracle Grow, and not cutting the grass.  The field looks like a cow pasture with grass 18 inches tall.  Coach Matthews will do anything to slow down PAM's #25.  That's a good plan.
    2. Regardless of the knee high grass, PAM will spread the field and find a match up it likes on the O-line versus Vidor's D-line.  #25 will find that match up and run to daylight.  The Pirates better get 11-defenders to #25.  If he gets to the edge, it's 6-points.  I don't know how fast #25 is in the 40 yard dash, but in full pads he is plenty fast enough. PAM will throw the ball sideways.  Take a chance and load the box to stop #25.  Make PAM throw the ball.  Who knows?  Maybe the PAM WRs get lost in the knee high grass and cant' find the football?
    3. Vidor will try student body right and student body left and PAM's D-line and LBs will be there.  Vidor will try the toss sweep, and PAM will be there.  Vidor will try the misdirection play with both the QB and the TB, and PAM will chase it down.  Vidor will try a pass to the TE or the RB out in the flats and PAM's DBs will not be fooled by the play action and misdirection of the Pirate QB.  I know you want to burn the clock, but 3 yards and a cloud of dust will be difficult against the size and speed of PAM's defense.  Nonetheless, the Pirates should do what they do.  Keep pounding the ball and tell the clock operator to be a tad slow on the stop button.  Keep the clock moving.
    Good luck to both teams.  Play hard for 48 minutes and add up the score at the end.  No injuries.
    Go Indians.  Peace.
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    1989NDN got a reaction from SFA85 in Port Arthur Memorial vs Vidor   
    Nope...here's how the game will go.
    1. Vidor has been watering its field, putting out Miracle Grow, and not cutting the grass.  The field looks like a cow pasture with grass 18 inches tall.  Coach Matthews will do anything to slow down PAM's #25.  That's a good plan.
    2. Regardless of the knee high grass, PAM will spread the field and find a match up it likes on the O-line versus Vidor's D-line.  #25 will find that match up and run to daylight.  The Pirates better get 11-defenders to #25.  If he gets to the edge, it's 6-points.  I don't know how fast #25 is in the 40 yard dash, but in full pads he is plenty fast enough. PAM will throw the ball sideways.  Take a chance and load the box to stop #25.  Make PAM throw the ball.  Who knows?  Maybe the PAM WRs get lost in the knee high grass and cant' find the football?
    3. Vidor will try student body right and student body left and PAM's D-line and LBs will be there.  Vidor will try the toss sweep, and PAM will be there.  Vidor will try the misdirection play with both the QB and the TB, and PAM will chase it down.  Vidor will try a pass to the TE or the RB out in the flats and PAM's DBs will not be fooled by the play action and misdirection of the Pirate QB.  I know you want to burn the clock, but 3 yards and a cloud of dust will be difficult against the size and speed of PAM's defense.  Nonetheless, the Pirates should do what they do.  Keep pounding the ball and tell the clock operator to be a tad slow on the stop button.  Keep the clock moving.
    Good luck to both teams.  Play hard for 48 minutes and add up the score at the end.  No injuries.
    Go Indians.  Peace.
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    1989NDN got a reaction from Proud Dawg in Port Arthur Memorial vs Vidor   
    The only shot for Vidor is if the PAM coaching staff forgets #25 in Port Arthur.  If #25 gets on the bus and makes the trip to Vidor, PAM will roll to the W, collect the district championship trophy, and a perfect regular season.  The PAM defense will shut down the Vidor misdirection running game.  Too much speed on the PAM defense to be fooled by the Slot-T.  And, #25... he is dynamite in open space, he knows where the end zone is located, and he can get there in a hurry.
    PAM 35
    VHS 7
    Go Indians.  Peace.
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    1989NDN got a reaction from Stattrax in Port Arthur Memorial vs Vidor   
    The only shot for Vidor is if the PAM coaching staff forgets #25 in Port Arthur.  If #25 gets on the bus and makes the trip to Vidor, PAM will roll to the W, collect the district championship trophy, and a perfect regular season.  The PAM defense will shut down the Vidor misdirection running game.  Too much speed on the PAM defense to be fooled by the Slot-T.  And, #25... he is dynamite in open space, he knows where the end zone is located, and he can get there in a hurry.
    PAM 35
    VHS 7
    Go Indians.  Peace.
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    1989NDN reacted to Stattrax in Port Arthur Memorial vs Vidor   
    PAM 41
    Vidor 14
    PAM has the best defense and the best RB in the district....
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    1989NDN got a reaction from hookem14 in PNG vs OZEN   
    I thought the top 5 QB list by Stats was solid...I agree, AMo is in the conversation because of the numbers he put up for his career, but it's pretty hard to knock Stats and his choices...the guys he listed put up numbers and won big games for the Indians.  Can't knock a guy like Stats who values championship hardware and big wins vs. pure statistics.
    1. Richy Ethridge
    1a. Dustin Long
    2. - 4. A lot of great names to consider...David Fry, Donnie Schexnaider, Denny Duhon, Ryan Robertson, Jay Musser, Brennan Doty, Adam Morse, and probably a few that I am forgetting.
    If you had to have one QB to lead a drive and get a W, it is hard to overlook Richy Ethridge.  All he did was play great in big games, collect a lot of Ws, and he put a state championship in the trophy case with a lot of his awesome teammates.  Of course, Dustin Long had "the drive" vs. Schertz Clemens and took the Indians down the field in the 4Q at Kyle Field to get a W and send PN-G to state.  Hard to argue with 1 or 1a.
    Good discussion...good stuff about PN-G football.  Would like to hear the opinions of others.
    Go Indians.  Peace.
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    1989NDN got a reaction from 75ndn in PNG vs OZEN   
    I thought the top 5 QB list by Stats was solid...I agree, AMo is in the conversation because of the numbers he put up for his career, but it's pretty hard to knock Stats and his choices...the guys he listed put up numbers and won big games for the Indians.  Can't knock a guy like Stats who values championship hardware and big wins vs. pure statistics.
    1. Richy Ethridge
    1a. Dustin Long
    2. - 4. A lot of great names to consider...David Fry, Donnie Schexnaider, Denny Duhon, Ryan Robertson, Jay Musser, Brennan Doty, Adam Morse, and probably a few that I am forgetting.
    If you had to have one QB to lead a drive and get a W, it is hard to overlook Richy Ethridge.  All he did was play great in big games, collect a lot of Ws, and he put a state championship in the trophy case with a lot of his awesome teammates.  Of course, Dustin Long had "the drive" vs. Schertz Clemens and took the Indians down the field in the 4Q at Kyle Field to get a W and send PN-G to state.  Hard to argue with 1 or 1a.
    Good discussion...good stuff about PN-G football.  Would like to hear the opinions of others.
    Go Indians.  Peace.
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    1989NDN got a reaction from FrodoNDN in PNG vs OZEN   
    The two team per district playoff format started in 1982.  PA Thomas Jefferson and Beaumont West Brook advanced to the playoffs in 1982 with Alex Durley's Bruins getting on a roll and winning the whole thing over Fort Worth L.D. Hurst Bell.  TJ won district and WB won state.
    In 1983, WB was the district champion and TJ beat PN-G for the second playoff spot.  PN-G had a good team.  The Indians came up just short vs. WB at The Reservation, I think the game was decided by a FG (17-14) if my old memory is correct...and then TJ beat PN-G at Memorial Stadium 34-21 on a wet sloppy field.  Coach Ethridge left PN-G after the '83-'84 school year.
    In 1984, WB and French represented 22-5A and the French Buffs shared the state championship with Odessa Permain's MOJO.  The French playoff theme was a soulful tune "Solid as a Rock" (I don't remember the singers) and the Buff defense was solid as a rock.  I remember going to the French v. LaPorte game in the Astrodome.  The Buffs crushed LaPorte 48-7 or something like that...it was a blowout.  I want to say LaPorte had negative total yards in the first half.  The Buff defense dominated.
    1984-1988 were lean years for the Indians.  Declining enrollment due to the oil bust, but the ISD was still big enough for PN-G to be in a tough 22-5A district that had WB, French, soon to be Central when French combined with BC-P, and TJ.  Once PN-G dropped to 4A in the late 1980s, winning returned with Danny Malone's 1989 team that went 12-2.
    You guys in this thread are bringing back old memories.  Good stuff.
    Go Indians.  Peace.
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    1989NDN got a reaction from hookem14 in PNG vs OZEN   
    The two team per district playoff format started in 1982.  PA Thomas Jefferson and Beaumont West Brook advanced to the playoffs in 1982 with Alex Durley's Bruins getting on a roll and winning the whole thing over Fort Worth L.D. Hurst Bell.  TJ won district and WB won state.
    In 1983, WB was the district champion and TJ beat PN-G for the second playoff spot.  PN-G had a good team.  The Indians came up just short vs. WB at The Reservation, I think the game was decided by a FG (17-14) if my old memory is correct...and then TJ beat PN-G at Memorial Stadium 34-21 on a wet sloppy field.  Coach Ethridge left PN-G after the '83-'84 school year.
    In 1984, WB and French represented 22-5A and the French Buffs shared the state championship with Odessa Permain's MOJO.  The French playoff theme was a soulful tune "Solid as a Rock" (I don't remember the singers) and the Buff defense was solid as a rock.  I remember going to the French v. LaPorte game in the Astrodome.  The Buffs crushed LaPorte 48-7 or something like that...it was a blowout.  I want to say LaPorte had negative total yards in the first half.  The Buff defense dominated.
    1984-1988 were lean years for the Indians.  Declining enrollment due to the oil bust, but the ISD was still big enough for PN-G to be in a tough 22-5A district that had WB, French, soon to be Central when French combined with BC-P, and TJ.  Once PN-G dropped to 4A in the late 1980s, winning returned with Danny Malone's 1989 team that went 12-2.
    You guys in this thread are bringing back old memories.  Good stuff.
    Go Indians.  Peace.
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    1989NDN got a reaction from CAL2TEX in PNG vs Central   
    Indian fans ... complaining just to complain.  The game with Central was not nailed down until late in the 4Q.  28-14 against Central is not a sure thing.  Two big plays and the score is tied.  Once we got to 35-14, it was mid-4Q.  It wasn't a 42-0 game at the half.  When the game is competitive, I like the ball being in the hands of the team's best player.  Not all of the QB runs were designed QB keepers.  Some were; others were not.  Some of the keepers show the growth of #2 as a super soph QB, i.e., he ran the ball because he did not want to force a pass and risk a turnover.
    Indian fans could be married to Cindy Crawford or Halle Berry and would complain she can't cook ... or you could get a bucket of gold and complain about the bucket.
    If #2 did not run, some fans would be on message boards complaining that Coach Faircloth refused to put the ball in the hands of his best player.  And, from the three games I've seen this season, (GCM, Lee and PAM), several times #2 has created something out of nothing to create positive plays and score points.  I'll take that and being 7-1 with a good shot to win out and roll into the playoffs with momentum.
    Go Indians.  Peace.
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    1989NDN got a reaction from TurtleMan in PNG vs Central   
    I'll give you GCM and Lee.  Blowouts from start to finish.  As I recall, the backups did play in those games except for the QB position.  Those are fair games for questions and criticism.  The other games were not blowouts until mid-4Q.  Go back and check the game summaries.  Lumberton kept hanging around, Vidor led us at the half and when PN-G had some separation in the 3Q, Vidor struck back in the 4Q with a score and the Pirates had already shown they were willing to go with an onside kick.  Against Silsbee, the back-up QB did play and was 3-4 passing and he rushed for a TD.  I agree the backup is outstanding.  He can close out games...my goodness, if PN-G needed him, he could lead the team to a win from start to finish.  The Indians are lucky to have him.  But, to complain that the starting QB is doing too much, that is not what the facts prove.  The Indians have fed the RB all season long...that won't stop unless the defense forces it on the zone read.  It's not about a one man show, its about executing the offense.  See Vidor and Central games where #2 could have ran all night long, but instead he pulled the back from the zone/read run/pass option and hit McZeal for long TDs
    It is not about individual records.  That is a guess by fans.  It's about team wins and losses.  The QB is executing the offense and taking what is open.  And, he is very good at it.  He gets the ball to the right people in open space...and yes, #5, 6, 10, 11, 12, and the others are playmakers.  I'm not arguing with you, but some PN-G fans just like to complain about anything Coach Faircloth does.  He loses and fans want a new coach; he wins and fans don't like the way he puts a W in the books.  Like I said, some fans - not all, but some - could get a free bucket of gold and they would complain about the bucket.  Yet, when it comes time to contribute funds to a new indoor practice facility, those same fans are suddenly quiet.  They want others to do the heavy lifting so they can keep complaining.
     
    Go Indians.  Peace.
     
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    1989NDN got a reaction from TurtleMan in PNG vs Central   
    Indian fans ... complaining just to complain.  The game with Central was not nailed down until late in the 4Q.  28-14 against Central is not a sure thing.  Two big plays and the score is tied.  Once we got to 35-14, it was mid-4Q.  It wasn't a 42-0 game at the half.  When the game is competitive, I like the ball being in the hands of the team's best player.  Not all of the QB runs were designed QB keepers.  Some were; others were not.  Some of the keepers show the growth of #2 as a super soph QB, i.e., he ran the ball because he did not want to force a pass and risk a turnover.
    Indian fans could be married to Cindy Crawford or Halle Berry and would complain she can't cook ... or you could get a bucket of gold and complain about the bucket.
    If #2 did not run, some fans would be on message boards complaining that Coach Faircloth refused to put the ball in the hands of his best player.  And, from the three games I've seen this season, (GCM, Lee and PAM), several times #2 has created something out of nothing to create positive plays and score points.  I'll take that and being 7-1 with a good shot to win out and roll into the playoffs with momentum.
    Go Indians.  Peace.
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    1989NDN got a reaction from The Icon in PNG vs Central   
    I'll give you GCM and Lee.  Blowouts from start to finish.  As I recall, the backups did play in those games except for the QB position.  Those are fair games for questions and criticism.  The other games were not blowouts until mid-4Q.  Go back and check the game summaries.  Lumberton kept hanging around, Vidor led us at the half and when PN-G had some separation in the 3Q, Vidor struck back in the 4Q with a score and the Pirates had already shown they were willing to go with an onside kick.  Against Silsbee, the back-up QB did play and was 3-4 passing and he rushed for a TD.  I agree the backup is outstanding.  He can close out games...my goodness, if PN-G needed him, he could lead the team to a win from start to finish.  The Indians are lucky to have him.  But, to complain that the starting QB is doing too much, that is not what the facts prove.  The Indians have fed the RB all season long...that won't stop unless the defense forces it on the zone read.  It's not about a one man show, its about executing the offense.  See Vidor and Central games where #2 could have ran all night long, but instead he pulled the back from the zone/read run/pass option and hit McZeal for long TDs
    It is not about individual records.  That is a guess by fans.  It's about team wins and losses.  The QB is executing the offense and taking what is open.  And, he is very good at it.  He gets the ball to the right people in open space...and yes, #5, 6, 10, 11, 12, and the others are playmakers.  I'm not arguing with you, but some PN-G fans just like to complain about anything Coach Faircloth does.  He loses and fans want a new coach; he wins and fans don't like the way he puts a W in the books.  Like I said, some fans - not all, but some - could get a free bucket of gold and they would complain about the bucket.  Yet, when it comes time to contribute funds to a new indoor practice facility, those same fans are suddenly quiet.  They want others to do the heavy lifting so they can keep complaining.
     
    Go Indians.  Peace.
     
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    1989NDN got a reaction from The Icon in PNG vs Central   
    Indian fans ... complaining just to complain.  The game with Central was not nailed down until late in the 4Q.  28-14 against Central is not a sure thing.  Two big plays and the score is tied.  Once we got to 35-14, it was mid-4Q.  It wasn't a 42-0 game at the half.  When the game is competitive, I like the ball being in the hands of the team's best player.  Not all of the QB runs were designed QB keepers.  Some were; others were not.  Some of the keepers show the growth of #2 as a super soph QB, i.e., he ran the ball because he did not want to force a pass and risk a turnover.
    Indian fans could be married to Cindy Crawford or Halle Berry and would complain she can't cook ... or you could get a bucket of gold and complain about the bucket.
    If #2 did not run, some fans would be on message boards complaining that Coach Faircloth refused to put the ball in the hands of his best player.  And, from the three games I've seen this season, (GCM, Lee and PAM), several times #2 has created something out of nothing to create positive plays and score points.  I'll take that and being 7-1 with a good shot to win out and roll into the playoffs with momentum.
    Go Indians.  Peace.
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    1989NDN got a reaction from RoschonsBigBro in PNG vs Central   
    I'll give you GCM and Lee.  Blowouts from start to finish.  As I recall, the backups did play in those games except for the QB position.  Those are fair games for questions and criticism.  The other games were not blowouts until mid-4Q.  Go back and check the game summaries.  Lumberton kept hanging around, Vidor led us at the half and when PN-G had some separation in the 3Q, Vidor struck back in the 4Q with a score and the Pirates had already shown they were willing to go with an onside kick.  Against Silsbee, the back-up QB did play and was 3-4 passing and he rushed for a TD.  I agree the backup is outstanding.  He can close out games...my goodness, if PN-G needed him, he could lead the team to a win from start to finish.  The Indians are lucky to have him.  But, to complain that the starting QB is doing too much, that is not what the facts prove.  The Indians have fed the RB all season long...that won't stop unless the defense forces it on the zone read.  It's not about a one man show, its about executing the offense.  See Vidor and Central games where #2 could have ran all night long, but instead he pulled the back from the zone/read run/pass option and hit McZeal for long TDs
    It is not about individual records.  That is a guess by fans.  It's about team wins and losses.  The QB is executing the offense and taking what is open.  And, he is very good at it.  He gets the ball to the right people in open space...and yes, #5, 6, 10, 11, 12, and the others are playmakers.  I'm not arguing with you, but some PN-G fans just like to complain about anything Coach Faircloth does.  He loses and fans want a new coach; he wins and fans don't like the way he puts a W in the books.  Like I said, some fans - not all, but some - could get a free bucket of gold and they would complain about the bucket.  Yet, when it comes time to contribute funds to a new indoor practice facility, those same fans are suddenly quiet.  They want others to do the heavy lifting so they can keep complaining.
     
    Go Indians.  Peace.
     
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    1989NDN got a reaction from hookem14 in PNG vs Central   
    Indian fans ... complaining just to complain.  The game with Central was not nailed down until late in the 4Q.  28-14 against Central is not a sure thing.  Two big plays and the score is tied.  Once we got to 35-14, it was mid-4Q.  It wasn't a 42-0 game at the half.  When the game is competitive, I like the ball being in the hands of the team's best player.  Not all of the QB runs were designed QB keepers.  Some were; others were not.  Some of the keepers show the growth of #2 as a super soph QB, i.e., he ran the ball because he did not want to force a pass and risk a turnover.
    Indian fans could be married to Cindy Crawford or Halle Berry and would complain she can't cook ... or you could get a bucket of gold and complain about the bucket.
    If #2 did not run, some fans would be on message boards complaining that Coach Faircloth refused to put the ball in the hands of his best player.  And, from the three games I've seen this season, (GCM, Lee and PAM), several times #2 has created something out of nothing to create positive plays and score points.  I'll take that and being 7-1 with a good shot to win out and roll into the playoffs with momentum.
    Go Indians.  Peace.
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    1989NDN got a reaction from hookem14 in PNG vs Central   
    I'll give you GCM and Lee.  Blowouts from start to finish.  As I recall, the backups did play in those games except for the QB position.  Those are fair games for questions and criticism.  The other games were not blowouts until mid-4Q.  Go back and check the game summaries.  Lumberton kept hanging around, Vidor led us at the half and when PN-G had some separation in the 3Q, Vidor struck back in the 4Q with a score and the Pirates had already shown they were willing to go with an onside kick.  Against Silsbee, the back-up QB did play and was 3-4 passing and he rushed for a TD.  I agree the backup is outstanding.  He can close out games...my goodness, if PN-G needed him, he could lead the team to a win from start to finish.  The Indians are lucky to have him.  But, to complain that the starting QB is doing too much, that is not what the facts prove.  The Indians have fed the RB all season long...that won't stop unless the defense forces it on the zone read.  It's not about a one man show, its about executing the offense.  See Vidor and Central games where #2 could have ran all night long, but instead he pulled the back from the zone/read run/pass option and hit McZeal for long TDs
    It is not about individual records.  That is a guess by fans.  It's about team wins and losses.  The QB is executing the offense and taking what is open.  And, he is very good at it.  He gets the ball to the right people in open space...and yes, #5, 6, 10, 11, 12, and the others are playmakers.  I'm not arguing with you, but some PN-G fans just like to complain about anything Coach Faircloth does.  He loses and fans want a new coach; he wins and fans don't like the way he puts a W in the books.  Like I said, some fans - not all, but some - could get a free bucket of gold and they would complain about the bucket.  Yet, when it comes time to contribute funds to a new indoor practice facility, those same fans are suddenly quiet.  They want others to do the heavy lifting so they can keep complaining.
     
    Go Indians.  Peace.
     
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    1989NDN got a reaction from Indianforever in PNG vs Central   
    I'll give you GCM and Lee.  Blowouts from start to finish.  As I recall, the backups did play in those games except for the QB position.  Those are fair games for questions and criticism.  The other games were not blowouts until mid-4Q.  Go back and check the game summaries.  Lumberton kept hanging around, Vidor led us at the half and when PN-G had some separation in the 3Q, Vidor struck back in the 4Q with a score and the Pirates had already shown they were willing to go with an onside kick.  Against Silsbee, the back-up QB did play and was 3-4 passing and he rushed for a TD.  I agree the backup is outstanding.  He can close out games...my goodness, if PN-G needed him, he could lead the team to a win from start to finish.  The Indians are lucky to have him.  But, to complain that the starting QB is doing too much, that is not what the facts prove.  The Indians have fed the RB all season long...that won't stop unless the defense forces it on the zone read.  It's not about a one man show, its about executing the offense.  See Vidor and Central games where #2 could have ran all night long, but instead he pulled the back from the zone/read run/pass option and hit McZeal for long TDs
    It is not about individual records.  That is a guess by fans.  It's about team wins and losses.  The QB is executing the offense and taking what is open.  And, he is very good at it.  He gets the ball to the right people in open space...and yes, #5, 6, 10, 11, 12, and the others are playmakers.  I'm not arguing with you, but some PN-G fans just like to complain about anything Coach Faircloth does.  He loses and fans want a new coach; he wins and fans don't like the way he puts a W in the books.  Like I said, some fans - not all, but some - could get a free bucket of gold and they would complain about the bucket.  Yet, when it comes time to contribute funds to a new indoor practice facility, those same fans are suddenly quiet.  They want others to do the heavy lifting so they can keep complaining.
     
    Go Indians.  Peace.
     
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