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3 hours ago, TradenupBH said:

Coach Lou was a coach at WB when I played. He was QB coach back then and was respected. At some point, folks need to look at kids as maybe not being as great as what thier parents think they are. Everybody hopping on WB like it's thier fault that Central, later Ozen, and now United aren't doing well? Come on, maybe kids aren't as good as what y'all think? Coach that left WOS was successful with WOS, Clayton and Lou we're good coaches at WB, now since it was Central, Ozen, or United, all of a sudden they can't coach? There's more to it.

Coach AL may have been a good coach back then and possibly still could be but when you haven't Coached in 9 years and refuse to go to Coaching Clinics and you dont have a spring training then as a football fan of SETX I've come to realize your behind when it comes to what has changed and your not doing all you can to get your kids ready in my eyes for the upcoming season...

3 hours ago, TradenupBH said:

Coach Lou was a coach at WB when I played. He was QB coach back then and was respected. At some point, folks need to look at kids as maybe not being as great as what thier parents think they are. Everybody hopping on WB like it's thier fault that Central, later Ozen, and now United aren't doing well? Come on, maybe kids aren't as good as what y'all think? Coach that left WOS was successful with WOS, Clayton and Lou we're good coaches at WB, now since it was Central, Ozen, or United, all of a sudden they can't coach? There's more to it.

So true

3 hours ago, TradenupBH said:

Coach Lou was a coach at WB when I played. He was QB coach back then and was respected. At some point, folks need to look at kids as maybe not being as great as what thier parents think they are. Everybody hopping on WB like it's thier fault that Central, later Ozen, and now United aren't doing well? Come on, maybe kids aren't as good as what y'all think? Coach that left WOS was successful with WOS, Clayton and Lou we're good coaches at WB, now since it was Central, Ozen, or United, all of a sudden they can't coach? There's more to it.

So true

9 hours ago, Kowboy98 said:

Central won one Beaumont bowl in the entire 90s 

Which 1....cause if my memory remembers they won in 90 and 91...that's 2...

Who would you say in the list hasn't had the best player in there respective classification around SETX if not in the State when they did do it that has the hardware?

1 hour ago, BMTSoulja1 said:

Not a bad top 5.  All have hardware except 1...

Yes but he's done more with less talent also year in and year out....always has his guys ready and knows Xs&Os and a great in game adjuster

19 minutes ago, Reagan said:

Do the well coached QB's make constant mistakes?  Does the WB QB?  Does Todd Dodge's QB?  Does the Aledo QB?  Does the Carthage QB?  

Constant yes...the same constant..very unlikely

1 hour ago, NetCat said:

That is not true. Some of it is, but do you really think they don't go to schools anymore? 

Not the majors like they use to....for example..when Tony Brown was at Ozen until he did well at the camp and got rated Nick Saban didn't know the kid...Track Clubs did and after you hit Sabans radar then you have gotten every Coach in the Country's attention..

1 hour ago, Kountzer said:

I've experienced a fair share of lean Silsbee basketball seasons.  Back in the day it seemed like winning it all was the impossible dream.  Now there is hope.

It happened twice. Silsbee won back to back state championships.   That means it can happen again.

It certainly does and from what I was told by a person of knowledge there 8th grade team has the best shot combined with the Freshman class from this year to be more special than any of the other classes in BBall and Football 

2 hours ago, no-look said:

Winning and X’s and O’s are what’s visible the most. Teaching life lessons is also important which usually goes undetected. Coaches can make a big difference in SOME kids lives. Successful coaches usually have good relationships with players that are grown and have family’s of their own. 

So true

On 10/19/2019 at 6:18 AM, Bugatti said:

They got exactly what they asked for.  They ran that man off because they wanted more playoff wins. Now they can't even make the playoffs and the kids scholarships are way down  

More playoff wins I can agree with but scholarships aren't earned on Friday nights anymore. There earned in the off season and summer months thru camps which cost money and for some they may not have or just dont know to help their child. Very rarely now does a Coach come to a school to see a team where as a standout kid whom has attended the right camp didn't draw the attention there first and he may spot another. Friday nights are for the fans and the pride of your city and your school being represented to boast and brag until next season comes back around for past and present players to harp on for years to come.

17 hours ago, Coach #23 said:

Sigler deserves a vote. 

He does but in my opinion he's not in my top 5....top 10...Handsdown...just my opinion...#6 to be exact

8 hours ago, JustUs said:

Durley brought that winning attitude from Hebert on Fannett road to the west end and it has remained. Prior to the merger Forest Park had very little success. Pride, hard work, better coaches is a major reason for success at WB.. WB football practice and BU football practice is totally different by my observation. In the past WB would draw the better talent from out of zone middle schools and that helped as well. WB program is stable, BU will more than likely have a new head coach next season. Some believe its by design that a top shelf proven winning Coach will never get hired on Fannett Rd without having restraints on selecting his own staff. Until then WB will continue to dominate in football and this is ok with the administration. United will have success in basketball because they have a proven winning coach with decent talent. jmo...  

So is this why BU got the Coaches that the district needed to put somewhere besides West Brook and they took the College Coaches that were at Lamar a few years ago?...My point exactly....

9 hours ago, zeroturn said:

It is really puzzling that tree goes back to the Charlton Pollard Hebert days when Beaumont was pro football capital of the world Imo Central and Ozen never established quality programs. 

 

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They may not have over a long period of time but when Central opened in the mid to late 80s and early 90s none of the schools around beat them except for Brook in 92 or 93 I believe if my memory serves correctly....1 of the biggest problems is the educating of Football from your feeder schools. If you do a survey and look at the number of kids who didn't play youth football growing up and just started in middle school are not being taught the game from basic tackling to staying away from a punt that's not being fielded for a return....

55 minutes ago, BMTSoulja1 said:

WB and United has the same amount of talent and athleticism.   There is a huge difference in coaching though... but it's also a mind thing.  I dont know what it is, but when WB lines up across from United (and Ozen and Central), you just get wierd and uncharacteristic  play.  I just don't get it.

Most of the talent that West Brook is getting comes from the tree...what I mean is most of there parents were graduates of Central in the opening years thru mid 90s and better paying jobs allowed those parents to move over from one side of town to the other to better themselves and there children not to include that most of the Coaches that are at United came from West Brook and West Brook received I believe  5 or so Coaches from Lamar that accepted their roles there and learned alot and brought it with them when the New Headcoach came into Lamar and Cleaned House....

3 hours ago, BMTSoulja1 said:

I wasn't at this game, but I followed it.  You're not gonna beat anyone when you throw 2 INT's, one in the end zone.  You're not going to win when you spot teams 21 points either. You're also not gonna win when you have the last possession with lots of time and cant even get out of your territory.   I'm thoroughly disgusted and I think it's time to shake some things up and throw some kids in the fire and sww what they can do and take others and change position.  I also think its time that someone take our OC's headset and take over.  What is there to lose now?  We need major help just to get in the playoffs.  Help I dont think we'll get.  Heck, we cant even hold up our end.  It'll  be a stretch of the imagination to beat LaPorte, let alone Deer Park.  

Heard the OCs headset was took after going 4-0....maybe they need to go back..hhhmmmm

1 hour ago, SmashMouth said:

If anyone understands the quote above, please tell me... I'm dying to know.

Knowing your personal before you put them in place to be a HeadCoach over any group you should know there decision making skills....

  Head coaches: My top 5 in no particular order: Joubert, Boutte, English, Green and Southerland

45 minutes ago, Alpha Wolf said:

I guess that's why those coaches are with the freshmen team and don't really have a role on the Varsity level...

I wouldn't put all the blame on the Coaches present as much as I would the Headcoach of the Varsity for allowing your youngest group to be Coached by decision makers of that group. In the end it reflects back to the leader of the program in a whole. 

4 hours ago, NetCat said:

This, it's a rule for a reason. 

True

 Got a call on the phone and this was the question :...1:09 left on the clock and United has the ball...up 16-13...Channelview has no timeouts and what do you do as a Coach?...Wasnt there so dont know exactly but this is what I was told...and you loose the game with a pick 6 with no time on the clock...1st and 10 also...

 United Frosh 16...Channelview 19....

Would you not to keep your job or just because you dont want the kid to be able to play elsewhere. The kid may not have a chance to play there when it's possible some sort of free education that he may aquire on the other side of town. As a coach that's the GOAL is to help your player to further his education  if possible.

Should a coach sign off on a kid who doesn't want to be in his program? I understand a Headcoach who doesn't win is in the possibility of having to look for a job elsewhere. I understand most part is because of having to take the L to a program that has recruited that kid to be there but I also understand a kid who could possibly be a right of way contributor to another program more so then coming off the bench because the talent ahead is just better and he simply just wont play. 

Kountze has a very young team this year...mostly soph. and Srs with a few jrs...

20 minutes ago, Tigers94 said:

Thing is there's a simple way to stop all this non sense.

You transfer to a new school and play sports, you sit out the entire season for whatever that sport may be. That means playoffs and everything. No getting around it. You get caught cheating, you get put on probation where your season is over once the playoffs start.

All but 1 transfer came from out of state and the other from a private school...