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[quote name="skipmeister" post="1421178" timestamp="1375625018"] [quote author=Jackthehammer link=topic=113119.msg1421162#msg1421162 date=1375611384] Can LC-M win 6 or more games? Can they possibley make a run at the playoffs? Lets here what you think. [/quote] Like said, this is District 20-4A. It is one of the toughest districts in the State! Anything can happen at any given moment! [/quote] How do you figure that? LCM gets three tuff 3A squads no doubt, but go check some of the other 20-4A schedules. Ozen and Central get 5A PAM and WB. Central tacks on WOS for good measure (should be interesting for Foreman). Nederland gets What should be very good Crosby and GCM and caps it with A state ranked Angleton. Livingston plays Dayton and Silsbee and PNG gets Silsbee, WOS then at state ranked SC. This district could be beat to....well you know what by the time district rolls around. No one is backing down from a fight including the Bears.

Welcome aboard Allen. We look forward to working with you and are very excited to have you on board. Your tireless efforts to help kids fulfill their goals of playing college softball while earning a degree will be much appreciated within the Orange Crush organization.

Silsbee and BC will both fall well below the 4A (or 5A as it will become) lower end enrollment number. Both schools will remain 3A (4A), but they should be 4A Div I which I would guess would be between 725 and 1000 and look something like this: 4A Div I (with guess numbers) Silsbee - 820 BC - 775 Jasper - 725 Carthage - 735 Splendora - 980+ (may move up to 5A with growth) Huffman - 980+ (may move up to 5A with growth) Cleveland - 920 4A Div II WOS - 675 HJ - 570 HF - 530 OF - 525 Tarkington - 580 Liberty - 570 Buna - 475 Kirbyville - 450- (may cut it close)

[quote name="DemDAWGS!" post="1418566" timestamp="1373751497"] [b]The Vidor SC game would have been much closer if Vidor had some passing. SC's defense was off balance w/ the run. Some strategic passing could have resulted in huge plays.[/b] The threat of a pass would have forced SC's DB's to back up. They cheated down the entire game. Now what has PNG done to earn any talk of being in the running for district?  They were waaaay off the radar last year. No way they improve that much in one year. [/quote] Man, I never would have thought I would say this, but "I agree with DemDawgs". Vidor's sick running game is legit. they run that offense almost to perfection...The thing that is missing is a QB that will hit on 4 out of the 5 wide open throws he has to make a game.  For that offense to succeed deep in the playoffs the QB has to hit 75+%. When he does, the threat of a passing game has to be taken serious durring the week of preperation leading up to the game and it will make that running game that much better. Vidor posters get upset all the time when people say they have no passing game, but what they don't realize is that teams don't spend much time preparing for Vidor to throw the ball with any success. They feel like they can afford to give up 1 or 2 big plays in the passing game if the extra time spent on the running game gets them the ball back quicker. Now if Vidor hit 5 big passing plays a game every week (and watching them the past several years those plays are there)...you gotta prepare for it and there is only so much time in a week for preparation.

[quote name="thsfootball" post="1404793" timestamp="1368633721"] [quote author=thsfootball link=topic=111862.msg1404788#msg1404788 date=1368633479] Vidor's playoff history 1964, 1978, 2000, 2009, 2011 Almost every decade, like clockwork. [/quote] The truth speaks for itself. Vidor's every decade playoff history is the only thing consistent about Vidor. [/quote] There is one huge thing that you forgot to factor in to this whole equation... up until the 1980's only 1 team made the playoffs and 2 up until the 1990's...With four teams qualifying each year the chances are that several of those Vidor teams from before 2000 would have made the playoffs. The fact is that Vidor has become a legitimate playoff contender since 2000 with four teams in. They may not have made the playoffs every year, but they have not been the old cellar dweller that they were for most of the 20th century. Don't look for this recent pattern to stop...Having seen their youth programs progress, they will remain a player for a spot for some time.

Congrats Jaiden...Good things ahead in your future on and off the field.

I figured Boras had a deal to get him to the bigs quickly to get his clock started. Being a possible free agent top of the line starting pitcher at 28 or 29 could be worth hundred million or more. The younger a starting pitcher gets to free agency the better.

Not to mention "With the first pick in the 2014 Major League Baseball draft, the Houston Astros select Carlos Rodon, left handed pitcher from North Carolina State University" Another top of the rotation pitcher who should fast track to the MLB. And a lefty to break up the right handed dominant future. Cosart was the first in a long line of good looking prospects to make the big club this year. Look for Villar at short soon, Springer in CF, Singleton at 1B and possibly Wojo in the rotation. Also Stoffel and Zied in the bull pen.  First wave just started. 2014 should see Appel, Folty and Perez. And 2015 Santana, McCullers, Deshields, Correa and Rodon.

[quote name="jkbtjc53" post="1417963" timestamp="1373543519"] [quote author=utfan06 link=topic=112839.msg1417940#msg1417940 date=1373510895] If true he wouldn't get to play varsity for a year I think.. [/quote] Why is this?? He's not moving for athletic purposes or moving to a team with in a 75 miles of his highschool. [/quote] Correct. He should not have to sit out at all as long as the paper work is submitted in time. We had a kid transfer from San Angelo who started as a Sophomore on SA's 5A playoff team and he had to sit out first 5 games last year...My guess was because he had not completed the paperwork in time?? He played week 6 and became our leading tackler second half of season after Warlick was injured.

[quote name="PirateGirl4ever" post="1417989" timestamp="1373555294"] Well, since I have to pick between a dog and an Indian, I'll have to say the doggies.  I cannot stand that Indian dancing and that high pitched banshee scream aka Indian call from their side of the stadium on Friday Nights!  Makes me feel like there's a swarm of mosquitoes flying around my ears!  ;D [/quote] As oppossed to a bunch of grown men and women barking like dogs!

Nice...Top 5 at ASA A is very good. Good luck at the SN.

Whether its right or not Craig, there are a lot of HS students that would not finish HS if not for a sport.  No one is saying you are wrong about the Parents Failing them, what they are saying is that HS Coaches often help these students to become productive members of society when others have failed them, thus they are just as important as teachers.

As far as salaries go, pretty sure Allman left his Alma Mater at Permian for $125K+ as Austin Westlake a few years back (less than a month after Farcloth left as Permians OC). Westlake suprisingly went to the 5A title game his first year. PNG has a boys AD (Faircloth) and girls AD (Comeaux) which has worked well for girls and boys sports programs.

[quote name="GCM DAD" post="1407403" timestamp="1369274448"] I was sitting in the stands when the PNG players came off the field and one of them dropped the "F" bomb on one of the GCM fans. Somebodys mom to be exact. I thought that was very disrespectful. [/quote] I sure hope you let them know that language was not tolerated. I would if it were rolls reversed. Kids want respect, but they dont give respect unless they are called on it. This wouldve been a good learning lesson.

Yes I saw the titles games this year. Thats why I said "before" last year. And every team you mentioned outside of CCC was from SA and Austin. Thats my point Callallen has feasted on the teams south of SA for years they are not even a top 20 program!!!

[quote name="cougar14" post="1407773" timestamp="1369341489"] [quote author=badndn link=topic=112133.msg1407709#msg1407709 date=1369332539] [quote author=cougar14 link=topic=112133.msg1407470#msg1407470 date=1369309410] Celina has the 8 state titles but Corpus Christi Calallen has been to the playoffs 27 straight years and to the second round or better 26 times. I think I would take a quarter century of dominating the southern bend over a single title. [/quote] Calallen has been good for a while, but the south Texas competition is WEAK! Going two+ rounds down there doesn't compare. Southlake Carroll won titles in 2A and 3A before the stretch run in 5A...Pretty darn salty. And they won those early titles in an offense built around the run under Ledbetter, then dominated the 5A scene through the air under Dodge. And one name I haven't seen yet is Plano. Hard to say who is top dog. [/quote]The competition in the district may be weaker but region 3 doesn't compare to region 4 where Calallen plays. Throw in the fact that they're about the size of Ozen and lose the to the eventual state champ about 50% of the time and other than La Marque who has multiple titles nobody in region 3 compares. When is the last time a 4A school other than La Marque won a title from this region? Unless you have multiple titles I think Calallen's success is untouched. [/quote] Thanks for helping proove my point. Region 4 has only been successful because of Lake Travis and lets be honest here, they are not exactly a south Texas team are they. Sure Lamarque is the only real title holder from Region 3, but to discredit teams like Brenham, Manvel, Dayton and others that have played for the title recently, but praise Callalen for loosing to Lamarque (best in region 3 for years) over and over again makes little sense. Other than LT, who from R4 has played for a title before this year. And who from south of San Antonio which is who CC Callallen feasted on for years only to loose when they got to some real competition. CCC is a good program, but they dont deserve to be in this convo.

[quote name="cougar14" post="1407470" timestamp="1369309410"] Celina has the 8 state titles but Corpus Christi Calallen has been to the playoffs 27 straight years and to the second round or better 26 times. I think I would take a quarter century of dominating the southern bend over a single title. [/quote] Calallen has been good for a while, but the south Texas competition is WEAK! Going two+ rounds down there doesn't compare. Southlake Carroll won titles in 2A and 3A before the stretch run in 5A...Pretty darn salty. And they won those early titles in an offense built around the run under Ledbetter, then dominated the 5A scene through the air under Dodge. And one name I haven't seen yet is Plano. Hard to say who is top dog.

Funny even after a horrible 2-8 season, PNG still has more playoff wins the last three years than the self proclaimed "greatest show on turf"! If SC doesnt get past round two this year they may never and your brief recent history tells us this past year may have been the best it'll ever get for demdawgs!

His first go round in ltown was back when they dropped down to 3A for a few years. Did pretty well. Only two made playoffs and I think they finished 3rd one year, but it was tight. HF was dominating that district then and OF had Granger. Only issue I see with Haynes is that he wont be there long enough to make a real difference. He has a track record of moving around alot and he is up there in age now. Seldom, if ever, does it pan out when you bring back someone from the past. Think Billy Tubbs at LU! It was ok, but not what folks had hoped for.

Its an advertising stunt. Were talking about him now...so it's working! So who's it gonna be?  Do they try and rekindle some of the fire Haynes had at Lumberton back when they were 3A for a while with Ryan Verde and Co. ?? Or do they start fresh with a new face? No doubt coach Haynes teams can play some offense, but would the Raiders end up like PNG last year trying to outscore everyone to no avail?

If what you are saying is true and PNG did not complete the tournament, then I am very dissapointed even without knowing the circumstances.

[quote name="Batman" post="1404680" timestamp="1368584939"] I only see PN-G winning 3 games this year total...Livingston, LC-M, and Lumberton.  They just have a tough non-district schedule, [b]a top heavy district[/b] in my opinion and probably are a year away from being serious threats for the district crown. PN-G faithful, don't turn your back on Faircloth... [/quote] Top heavy district?? That is your opinion...I beg to differ. Last year prooved that. Only Nederland moved past round one and outside of Nederland this year, who is better than last year. Not Vidor, they will not be a cellar dweller, but they will not be as good as last year. Ozen? Who is at QB? What will they do without the RB? they will be young and talented. Central...Who takes over for Mitchell? Foreman will be better for that program no doubt, but I am not sold next year will be the year. Livingston? they lose Collins, but they had a very good JV squad. I look for them to compete better than most expect. LCM has maybe the best returning QB and a good WR, but the loss of Sezar will hurt them. I think 2-8 this district is up for grabs and those teams will probably struggle in Bi-District.

Anyone consider the offer?  Baylor is not cheap. If its not a full offer it may not be his best option. If thats not the issue or an issue then I agree, working with coach Briles with Sharps skillset would be a no brainer and getting a top notch education to boot.

[quote name="Razor" post="1403505" timestamp="1368283084"] everybody who has tried the last two years ended up getting bit [/quote] Nicely done! Bit and slobered on!

Kicking puppies!!! Is that a pun?  Bunch folks across the tracks cringed.  ;D Ok I'll walk the plank: 1. Nederland 2. PNG 3. Livingston (JV was very good last year. I expect they still compete.) T4. Vidor T4. Central 6. Ozen (infusion of very good freshman class from last year) 7. LCM 8. Lumberton Again like last year I think Nederland is legit playoff contender, but 2-7 have a lot of questions to be answered and lots of youth. Future of this district is bright.