PABorn

38 minutes ago, L-Train11 said:

A linebacker playing quarterback that is soft.... you’re making perfect sense...

Touché. I was more so referring to his build and style of play, maybe I shouldn't have gone as far as calling the kid soft. But from what I've seen, he comes out of the game to often because he's "hurt". When I played, you'd just get back up and play through it. You make them take you off the field. And I've said what my opinion is about Nederlands playoff hopes, they don't have a chance at getting out of the 3rd round, solely on the fact that the coaches can't open up the playbook.  This thread got focused on just Nederland. It was supposed to be focused on the whole district. 

1 hour ago, Proud Dawg said:

Sounds to me like PAborn needs to coach. Has it all worked out for an 8-0 team. I understand your concerns but you seem to feel you are the only right one on the board. Only time will tell

The only argument for Fernandez being the starter that I've heard is 

1. He's tough and has grit.

2. He's a senior.

3. He does what the coach asks. 

True True and True, but why does that make him the better choice for quarterback? It looks to me like yall know chorizo and don't want to say anything negative about the situation. Your right though, time will tell. It just sucks for the kids that Barrow is satisfied with a couple play off wins and coming home. An I'm not even saying that it would be a forsure thing that they go deep if #1 started, my argument is that he is able to do more with his arm! Which gives another demension to the offense. Which takes some pressure off of the badass running game. Which leads to a more productive offense. They don't need Fernandez running the ball because they have two running backs that can do more than he can with their eyes closed. 

1 hour ago, NDNation said:

Not close? Have you seen the other games? Both Dayton and Vidor were down to the wire.

Well I stand corrected. They should be stripped of those wins to. The proof is in the pudding. 

15 minutes ago, NDNation said:

I'm wondering if there were other avenues of punishment on the table.

Everybody is jumping on the bandwagon, but I think deep down they know it didn't affect the game.

If In fact the videos were being used to analyze in game formations the it hands down affected the game. This game came down to seconds on the clock. It can be argued that the advantage of being able to do that directly affected the outcome. If this is true I agree that they should have to forfeit the win. Now as for other games I don't think it affected as much because they weren't close. 

20 minutes ago, PN-G bamatex said:

I already knew that, but I don't see how that affects my argument. Even if he was videoing the game, it's only a violation of the rules if he uses the video "for coaching purposes." It's entirely possible that he intended to review the film for use after the game, but there's no evidence that he did, and the facts that everyone has stipulated to, as I understand them, clearly show that the video wasn't used for any coaching purpose during the game. Ergo, the violation didn't contribute to the win that was vacated, which brings me right back to my original point: the punishment doesn't fit the crime. The kids are getting penalized for a coach's mistake they had nothing to do with. Discipline him.

Understood and agreed. As long as it wasn't used for in game adjustments. With that said, Faircloth is quoted in the Port Arthur news saying the iPad wasn't being used to video the game. 

8 minutes ago, PN-G bamatex said:

No.

Well it was the picture of the coach with the iPad videoing the game, that was turned in to the district. 

10 minutes ago, Tigers2010 said:

I wonder if Shug has decided how many points he wants to score Friday.

I wanted to like this but I'm still out from yesterday. So I decided just to tell you. 

8 minutes ago, PN-G bamatex said:

As I understand it, everyone has stipulated to the facts. One of PN-G's coaches had an iPad in the pressbox, which the rules clearly prohibit. That said, there is no evidence, and none of the Barbers Hill coaches have suggested, that the iPad was being used for any illicit purpose or that its presence in any way contributed to PN-G's performance in the game.

I'd appeal for no other reason than that. I fail to see how the punishment fits the crime, and ultimately it's the players that are being penalized for something that they didn't do and that didn't benefit them. I'm not familiar with what enforcement powers the UIL does and doesn't, but it seems more appropriate to hand the coach a suspension for a game or two then to totally vacate the win.

Theres a picture atached to this post. Can you see it? 

5 minutes ago, outanup said:

Does anyone really believe an administrator, principal, HC/AD is gonna work together in hiding the results of a Hs kids drug test? Risking there 6 digit salaries? Knowing that everyone else knows too? And all working in unison to form a conspiracy? What an ignorant thing to mumble....

You must not know mid county football. 

9 minutes ago, Tigers2010 said:

You need better sources. They just got housed by Silsbee. They are not set up to win district. They are set up to be 1-2 in district.

Wow just went and looked at the district records and scores. You right. Definitely need a non biased source lol. My apologies 

16 minutes ago, CCRed said:

How do the BH fans think they will do since their starting QB is out ? I know it hasn’t gone good for Crosby after they lost Howard, and PNG didn’t do well without RJ when he was out. 

I heard that the new BH QB is just as or better than the kid that got hurt. I have no idea if this is true or not but it's what I heard. 

I think this is going to come down to the fourth quarter. WOS has improved tremendously. But from what I hear liberty is a team that is set up to win district. 

Barrow is satisfied with a district championship and a couple playoff wins. When does that mentality change? 

6 minutes ago, Jack Da Rabbit said:

Both of those kids are for Chorizo, a ned poster on here. I think Fernandez is good when healthy. I don't think he is soft nor do I think he is a true qb. He is a next man up kid and has served his qb role well to me though.

Yah I know I know, "he does what the coach asks him to do." That's the point I'm making. He can't ask him to do anything else other than run an throw the flats route! How is that not obvious. So what if he was the next man up, there's a next man up on the side line that can do more for the team than the line backer playing quarterback. 

The U will not be successful until they find a hard nose coach that knows what he's doing. He has to have some sort of winning back ground and a niche for getting kids to buy in to what he's trying to as well as teaching the team to be disciplined. 

10 minutes ago, Proud Dawg said:

I do like the fact of two qb rotation but from what I’ve seen blaysin adds something to this team that you can’t coach. He adds grit and that is important also. At 8-0 and having to play two good teams, I agree with the coaches to play blaysin and worry about the playoffs when they get here. We are not sure where it’s gonna fall yet much less worry about round three or four. 

GRIT? The kid gets "hurt" every other play. That's called  soft to me. Grit is way down the list of importance. Your right you can't coach grit. Of course we will never know. But the team would be 8-0 with either qb taking the snaps. They would just be in a much better position to make a run if they had #1 starting and #11 supplementing the offense. Instead of the other way around. It just doesn't make since the way they are doing things. It's working, an has always worked. Until 3rd round of playoffs. 

1 hour ago, Proud Dawg said:

How would y’all like him to open up the offense

To have some sort of passing game that can get you out of 3rd and longs, or to pass on first down. Something other than run, run, run, punt with the qb. Oh I forgot about the occasional roll out pass in the flats. The Qb is not a quarterback than can win with his arm, and in the playoffs you are going to have to be able to do that. After the first round the bulldogs are going to be playing teams that are at a higher level than what they've played in district. These teams will be able to analyze film better than the teams in our district. What happens when they run into a team that loads the box and takes the flats away? The offense is so predictable and one demensional. They are set up a lot like the saints, they have two quarterbacks ones a pure athlete and the other is a pure quarterback, they have two running backs that can get it done on the ground, and one receiver that they like to target. The saints use their quarterback that can throw (Bree's) the ball 95% of the time, then they dabble in the athletic qb (#7) to give teams another look. It keeps them guessing and adds depth to your playbook. The bulldogs have it backwards man. They have a quarterback on the bench that should be starting so that they can add another demension to the offense. He's proven he can work under pressure. He did it in Barbers hill. What's going to happen is that they are going to get down in the playoffs, put the back up in and then it's to late cause the kid hasn't gotten the reps he should've been getting all year, Barrow doesn't even take the starter out when they are up big coming out of half time, he definitely makes you scratch your head. I wonder if they give him reps with the 1's in practice? I'm not saying the starter should be on the bench but he shouldn't be taking the snaps, whether he's a senior or not. They should be trying to go as deep as possible and to do so you have to open the playbook up and be able to pass the ball. It's almost like Barrow is going with this kid cause he owes him something for being a senior. In my opinion the bulldogs would have the same record and a much better shot at making a deep playoff run if they had the back up #1 in. How is this not being made more of a focus point by the critics and fans. Everyone's seen the difference in the offense when he's on the field. 

As as far as PNG goes, I think that they can score at will, their only problem is the damn defense. With the fire power they have in RJ and what he can do with his legs, maybe they should have some of their other studs on offense playing both ways. I know that's uncommon but something's gotta give when it comes to allowing the points their allowing. If PNG figures it out within the next two weeks then I say they have a shot at going deeeeeeeep. This Friday will be a huge test for their defense. I think they win no doubt, but will they hold down the BH offense is the question. 

Oh lol ok I see. 

12 hours ago, Austin1985 said:

SMH.  Hope he's not at a bubble school next year.... 

What do you mean by bubble school? I've seen that a couple of times and don't know what that means. 

6 minutes ago, Bulldogpower said:

I think the Nederland D is there but looking back on our 2012 team which went to the Q-finals the offense was much better and the one today, not sure if they realignment will help by filtering out the bigger schools with manvel and whatnot still being a factor. Will be interesting to see. 

I agree. The offense is just enough to win a District title. I would love to see them go deep but it's like Coach Barrow won't open up their play book, which you would think from past experiences that he would try to change it up. They have the defense to stop high powered offenses. 

54 minutes ago, badndn said:

Not so sure. I think this district could produce a formidable opponent or two for Marshall, Manvel or Huntsville. I would not be shocked with a regional final or even state semi. 

Nederland doesn't have an offense to get anywhere. Png doesn't have a defense to stop any one. Barbers Hill and Crosby don't have either. If Nederland or Port Neches could some how improve on their less than impressive sides of the ball then maybe just maybe they could get past round three, but until a substantial change then I don't see it happening. 

Wait what?!

2 hours ago, aki1994 said:

About like how Nederland handled their failed drug tests last year. Broom meet rug, nothing to see here. 

Yah Nederlands qb fails a drug test last year. Everyone knows about it and then all of a sudden you hear nothing else on the subject and he's out there on Friday night. Crazy