sfasuljack

From smoaky.com Pool A Lufkin Lumberton Kingwood Park Houston Yates Pool B Tyler Lee Nacogdoches Beaumont Ozen Friendswood Pool C John Tyler Atascocita Port Neches Groves Lufkin JV (Because Mt. Pleasant dropped out) Pool D Whitehouse Crosby Pasadena Dobie Alto

Liberty 24 Ballinger 12

Liberty 32 All saints 24

Liberty 34 Rockdale 14 All saints 35 Ballinger 21

Wos beat liberty in final... wos and liberty qualify for state tournament.

Liberty also qualified in d2 by winning the hardin sqt.

Yes. Cook 1st, Haley 2nd, Alisa Baldwin 3rd. All from Liberty.

Cook - Liberty - 5' 6" at District Meet yesterday in Huffman. D'iante Haley - Jr. - Liberty - 5' 0" at District Meet yesterday. 5' 2" at Deweyville meet this past Friday.

Cook from Liberty jumped 5' 7" last night at Deweyville meet.

Sr.

Lauren Cook - 3A - Liberty - 5.04

Not sure what else to tell you. Guess I'll just say I've enjoyed the discussion and best of luck to you :)

[quote name="diggstown" post="956421" timestamp="1296234511"] And if you work hard enough lifting and practice [b]all[/b] kids will improve their athletic ability. [/quote] Amen.

[quote name="speechless" post="956415" timestamp="1296233975"] how can the head coach be in charge of practice planning when he/she is told they have to be in the weight room during the athletic period last i checked the athletic period is used for practice well at least in some sports [/quote] Thats the AD's call. And I'm bettin whoever that AD lets them do whatever they want as long as they stay under the 8 hour rule after school. Pretty sure you're at 3a or below. Maybe you should consider 4a or 5a.

[quote name="TEARDROP" post="956413" timestamp="1296233758"] [quote author=sfasuljack link=topic=79171.msg956411#msg956411 date=1296233609] [quote author=speechless link=topic=79171.msg956399#msg956399 date=1296232757] very few coaches work for pay in the summer its part of the job it cannot be required but it can be encouraged [/quote] Now you're kinda startin to catch on:) Coaches work countless extra hours because they love it (we don't get rich coaching high school I promise you). They pay us for some extra days. But if you think all coaches are gonna work the summers for free because its part of the job, your starting to get back to pie in the sky stuff. [/quote] quest?  why cant head coaches be a part of summer leagues? [/quote] Against UIL rules. And that goes for asst coaches as well.

[quote name="speechless" post="956399" timestamp="1296232757"] very few coaches work for pay in the summer its part of the job it cannot be required but it can be encouraged [/quote] Now you're kinda startin to catch on:) Coaches work countless extra hours because they love it (we don't get rich coaching high school I promise you). They pay us for some extra days. But if you think all coaches are gonna work the summers for free because its part of the job, your starting to get back to pie in the sky stuff.

In the places i've been, the head coach of a sport is in charge of practice planning, scheming, schedule, who plays, etc... And most cases, there is little interference from the AD. Sometimes they are in charge of weight training, sometimes not. And where they were in charge of the weights, lets just say they decided not to spend much time in there (that's what I've seen).

Unless the rules have changed, which I don't think they have, you cannot REQUIRE participation in the summer. It's voluntary. If I tell a kid they have to do something in the summer, I'll be in hot water in a hurry. We can only encourage. And in many districts, there is little pay(can you say 'shrinking budgets everywhere'?) for coaches to work the 'camp' in the summer.

It's not code for anything. I want ALL the sports to succeed, not just football, please don't put words in my mouth. You're obviously 'basketball only' and are unhappy where you are. Thats fine. Go somewhere where basketball is the focus. I'd suggest 5A where you'll find many (not all, but many) programs where the basketball coach has complete control of their program and there is very little sharing of athletes. If you desire a smaller school environment, those are out there as well.

Here's the issue at 3a and below. There are many many many multisport athletes. The overall athletic program suffers if these athletes are constantly doing maintenance lifting. So the question becomes do you believe in strength development on your 2 days a week 'in season' or is it about maintenance 'in season'? If football/volleyball focuses on maintenance and basketball focuses on maintenance and baseball/softball focuses on maintenance, then when do the multi/all sport athletes get stronger? Keep in mind, the only time you have full control with all your athletes together is the athletic period (which are not separate most of the time at 3A and below). And please don't come at me with the 'in the summer' stuff and the kids need to be all self motivated. That's pie in the sky stuff. Most kids need to be coached and pushed.

If they don't like what you're doing, they will tell you to fix it. They are the boss and can overrule us at their pleasure if they are unsatisfied with the job we are doing (AD in coaching or principal in the classroom). And whether its the best method or not, its reality. Have you ever taught in public education in Texas? Exactly what industry do you work in where your boss let's you do whatever you want with no oversight? I'd love to look into it and see if I'm qualified. Sounds like a good deal :)

If you're at a place where the AD is also the Football coach and you're not satisfied with how he runs the athletic program, voice your concerns to the proper people or move your family somewhere where the AD is the basketball, baseball, trainer, etc... coach and the program is run more to your liking. There's lots of options out there. Granted football is king in Texas. I don't see that changing. And I'm not saying it's the perfect system by any means, but it is the reality in this state. You do understand that, right? But whoever has the AD title is in charge of doing what's he thinks is best for all the sports. He sets the vision and guidelines for each of the sports. In short, he is our boss and we must follow his lead or find another job. As far as teaching, we submit lesson plans to our department heads and principals on a weekly basis for their review/approval. So, they have a huge say in what we teach and when we teach it. We can't simply do whatever we want.

[quote name="speechless" post="955866" timestamp="1296157177"] so you are saying antonio gates was able to become an all pro TE because of his height?  seriously? LOL!  he is living proof that football requires largely just athleticism to successful why do you think terrell owens, randy moss, and tony gonzales could not make an automatic jump to the NBA? because while they are good athletes they are not skilled enough to do so and all of them are tall enough too [/quote] Forgive my ignorance... Exactly how tall is the avg NBA power forward??? Gates does not have above avg height in basketball (believe he's 65 or 66 off the top of my head). He does in football. That was my point. In general, basketball is a tall man's game more than any other major sport. But i'm more interested in HS athletes and doing what best for all of them, not just the ones who can earn a scholarship. IMO, developing strength, agility, speed is important to all the sports. The basic lifts develop all those things, especially in the 7th thru 12th grades.

Not building muscle. Building strength, speed, etc... that is needed in every sport. And I don't care what size they are, I want to help the kids develop their skills and their strength/speed. I'm not an either/or guy. But that's me. If ur a basketball takes precedent guy, their are schools out there for you, if its football, there are schools for you. There also are plenty out there that strike a balance. Bottom line is there is no ideal system that will fit every kid and you cant continually customize ur athletic program to suit every athlete. It sounds good in theory but its just not practical. So, if ur a coach and don't like where you are, find another job that's a better fit. If ur a parent, you gotta find a community you like with a school system that has the philosophy that you think best fits ur kids needs.

Think it might have something more to do with height or a lack thereof... basketball, in general, is more dependent on height than any other major sport. If you don't pass the height requirement in basketball, you have to be ridiculously talented and skilled to make it. 6' guard (small), 6' DB/WR (avg)... 6'2" guard (above avg), 6'2" DB/WR (big), 6'4" guard (startin to hit bball range), 6'4" DB/WR (huge)... you get the idea. Same is true in football, the heights just aren't as high. Bottom line for me is if a kid is good at and likes multiple sports, I'd advise them to play them. It's  multiple bites at a free education. If they choose one or the other, they better be right, cause college scholarships are in short supply, especially when you consider how many kids want them. I'd be good with head coach of a sport being in charge of their lifting as long as they believe in strength development thru every season from 7th-12th grade. I hear 'in season' and 'maintenance' in the same sentence and I'd be way off board. And if I were an AD, we'd be testing all along the way to verify the kids strength, agility, speed, vertical, etc... was improving. And yes, even thru football season. And again, I'm talkin 3a and below, which I prefer. I enjoy coaching the same kids in multiple sports.