Honest Abe

nederland  56 lumberton  27 end of 3rd they were sick over the weekend. everyone is playing tonight.

not much of a game-as expected. Ned up 49-22

Halftime Nederland 35 Lumberton 19

Ned    21 lumb  11 mid 2nd Q

[quote name="speechless" post="962372" timestamp="1297100018"] jury is still out on how much you think you know funny you think you know more about nederland than me very funny [/quote] I'm pretty certain I know the team and staff better than u too.

[quote name="speechless" post="962372" timestamp="1297100018"] jury is still out on how much you think you know funny you think you know more about nederland than me very funny [/quote] How is it that you know so much about Nederland? Who are you?

[quote name="speechless" post="962361" timestamp="1297098790"] you havent seen any of the teams being discussed play this year so how could you know anything [/quote] To whom are you speaking, me?

[quote name="LAZEEK" post="962323" timestamp="1297094905"] Been disappointing...............really thought that LCM would make the playoffs.  They have some good talent and a really good coach, but something is not working for them.  I WAS WRONG AND I ADMIT IT!!!!! ;D ;D ;D [/quote] If it makes you feel better, I thought they would be the 4th place team too... ;)

[quote name="The GOAT" post="962335" timestamp="1297096413"] [quote author=dogs1218 link=topic=79873.msg962329#msg962329 date=1297095742] [quote author=The GOAT link=topic=79873.msg962328#msg962328 date=1297095138] Silsbee by 15-20. Constant ball pressure will beat the Bulldogs every time. [/quote] They have ways to handle presses ;) And I dont see either one of these teams beating the other by more than a one or two baskets.. Close game [/quote]MHS defeated nederland by 20, the game was close early but mhs pulled away early in the 3rd. With that being said, MHS had no player over 6'3'' playing in that game. Silsbee is a longer team than MHS and and applies the same amount of ball pressure. [/quote] Nederland also played that game w\an injured Fourney, plus their shooting guard just started playing b-ball (as well as Fourney) b\c they were playing football all fall.... and the Freshman kid was not on Varsity at the time. I'm sure MHS has is a different team too. All of this said, this game would be a lot closer IF a rematch happens. I don't think a lot of games played early in the season are extremely relevant nearly 3 months later.

[quote name="ballin4life" post="962289" timestamp="1297090591"] [quote author=Honest Abe link=topic=79873.msg962232#msg962232 date=1297055384] [quote author=ballin4life link=topic=79873.msg962229#msg962229 date=1297054937] [quote author=Nedball4 link=topic=79873.msg962203#msg962203 date=1297051403] [quote author=ballin4life link=topic=79873.msg962178#msg962178 date=1297049060] [quote author=baddog link=topic=79873.msg961973#msg961973 date=1297009951] [quote author=ballin4life link=topic=79873.msg961948#msg961948 date=1297006581] [quote author=ForeverADog link=topic=79873.msg961896#msg961896 date=1296972954] That Memorial game was so long ago at the beginning of the season on a Saturday. It would be a much different game today. Ned is a lot better than those first 10 or so games of the season. Much like Silsbee would like to have the Ozen game back. [/quote]Im going with the new[color=red] Thomas Jefferson [/color]NED. But still dont think NED. can handle PAM in yo face de thats the key to beating the bulldogs. [/quote] If this were even close to being true, how do explain Englishs success at Vidor. It's the coaching. That's what it always comes down to with Nederland sports. Lombardi once said to an opposing coach......." I could take your team and beat you." [/quote]Baddog i think coach English is a good coach not taking nothing from him,but if u think he can do this without them boys from PA. you selling yourself short. [/quote]forney-central middle to ned high; cunningham- central middle to ned high; smith - port neches middle to ned high; mitchell- png to ned high. Of course you cant win without good players no matter where they are from. It's a given. That post is nothing short of ignorant. [/quote]Like I said NED is the new T.J some of you might not like that. now that might make u ignorant but thats o.k i dont know you. PROFILING WOW REALLY. ;) [/quote] It IS ignorant of you to say b\c you have a[color=red] lack of knowledge [/color](check Websters) of where ANY of these kids grew up, and PAT is not the town. NONE of them would have gone to TJ (if it still existed), so you are profiling. [/quote]Dude see this is where we disagree i know for a fact where three of the starting five grew up and know their family well, coach two of them. Now how do you know they would not have gone to TJ ??? you really dont know do you. do your homework before comming on here. now the word IGNORANT well self explanatory. [/quote] I've done my homework. MANY people have covered this topic numerous times on this board. I'm tired of defending the FACT that these kids have gone to NISD for years. Where did you coach them? YMCA league? Due to where they reside, they would not have attended TJ. Why do you care anyway? Does it really matter? If Nederland was not having such a great year, this topic would not have come up (again) for the 9th time. Let the kids enjoy their success regardless of which school they would have or would not have attended...

Humble will be a tough opponent for the Dawgs. Like Ball, they just dropped from 5A to 4A. What kind of game does Humble play. Are they big? Quick? Long?

[quote name="STiger85" post="962235" timestamp="1297056142"] [quote author=Honest Abe link=topic=79873.msg961775#msg961775 date=1296963430] Both teams are dominating their districts. Lots of people watched Nederland dominate Central tonight. Lots watched Silsbee dominate HJ last week. Is it time Nederland takes over #1 spot in the area?? U were there BADSANTA, what do U think?? [/quote] Lets take a look: Silsbee #1 just dominated #4 HJ on Tues. and then blew past #10 WOS. Nederland #2 beat non ranked Livingston and dominate #5 Central. If I where voting and a #1 team beat two top ten teams and the #2 team beat a top ten team and a non ranked team, the #1 team should seperate themselves from the rest of the pack. [/quote] So...you're gonna punish a team b/c their schedule has them playing a lesser opponent? Not a strong stand, sorry.

[quote name="AggiesAreWe" post="962236" timestamp="1297056381"] If Ball and LaMarque finish 1-2 in the district(which is expected), they would not face each other until the regional final. Nederland being distict champs, they would not see Ball, LaMarque or Yates till the regional tourney. If Ball wins their district and them and Nederland win their respective playoff games (1st-3rd rounds) they would face each other in the regional semifinals. If LaMarque finishes 2nd behind Ball, they would face Yates in the 2nd round. Nederland's path to the regional tourney looks really promising. [/quote] Thanks for the clarification!

[quote name="ballin4life" post="962229" timestamp="1297054937"] [quote author=Nedball4 link=topic=79873.msg962203#msg962203 date=1297051403] [quote author=ballin4life link=topic=79873.msg962178#msg962178 date=1297049060] [quote author=baddog link=topic=79873.msg961973#msg961973 date=1297009951] [quote author=ballin4life link=topic=79873.msg961948#msg961948 date=1297006581] [quote author=ForeverADog link=topic=79873.msg961896#msg961896 date=1296972954] That Memorial game was so long ago at the beginning of the season on a Saturday. It would be a much different game today. Ned is a lot better than those first 10 or so games of the season. Much like Silsbee would like to have the Ozen game back. [/quote]Im going with the new[color=red] Thomas Jefferson [/color]NED. But still dont think NED. can handle PAM in yo face de thats the key to beating the bulldogs. [/quote] If this were even close to being true, how do explain Englishs success at Vidor. It's the coaching. That's what it always comes down to with Nederland sports. Lombardi once said to an opposing coach......." I could take your team and beat you." [/quote]Baddog i think coach English is a good coach not taking nothing from him,but if u think he can do this without them boys from PA. you selling yourself short. [/quote]forney-central middle to ned high; cunningham- central middle to ned high; smith - port neches middle to ned high; mitchell- png to ned high. Of course you cant win without good players no matter where they are from. It's a given. That post is nothing short of ignorant. [/quote]Like I said NED is the new T.J some of you might not like that. now that might make u ignorant but thats o.k i dont know you. PROFILING WOW REALLY. ;) [/quote] It IS ignorant of you to say b\c you have a lack of knowledge (check Websters) of where ANY of these kids grew up, and PAT is not the town. NONE of them would have gone to TJ (if it still existed), so you are profiling.

[quote name="CATMAN" post="962222" timestamp="1297054207"] [quote author=Honest Abe link=topic=79896.msg962214#msg962214 date=1297052361] [quote author=CATMAN link=topic=79896.msg962206#msg962206 date=1297051725] [quote author=Honest Abe link=topic=79896.msg962204#msg962204 date=1297051472] 4A Nederland, Ball, LaMarque, Yates [/quote] WHAT [/quote] Regional tourney is the question, no? That is the four teams who will play in the game before the regional finals, right? If not, then what is a regional tourney? [/quote] BALL LaMARQUE YATES Will play one another before the reg. tour start now all 3 cant go.Nederland will not be @ the reg tour. Just so I'm clear, we're talking the four teams from this region, right? If not, then I'm confused. How can u possibly exclude Nederland? They've won 17 in a row!! Where do u have them losing? [/quote]

3A Silsbee, Cleveland, and ?, ?

[quote name="CATMAN" post="962206" timestamp="1297051725"] [quote author=Honest Abe link=topic=79896.msg962204#msg962204 date=1297051472] 4A Nederland, Ball, LaMarque, Yates [/quote] WHAT [/quote] Regional tourney is the question, no? That is the four teams who will play in the game before the regional finals, right? If not, then what is a regional tourney?

4A Nederland, Ball, LaMarque, Yates

[quote name="ballin4life" post="962178" timestamp="1297049060"] [quote author=baddog link=topic=79873.msg961973#msg961973 date=1297009951] [quote author=ballin4life link=topic=79873.msg961948#msg961948 date=1297006581] [quote author=ForeverADog link=topic=79873.msg961896#msg961896 date=1296972954] That Memorial game was so long ago at the beginning of the season on a Saturday. It would be a much different game today. Ned is a lot better than those first 10 or so games of the season. Much like Silsbee would like to have the Ozen game back. [/quote]Im going with the new[color=red] Thomas Jefferson [/color]NED. But still dont think NED. can handle PAM in yo face de thats the key to beating the bulldogs. [/quote] If this were even close to being true, how do explain Englishs success at Vidor. It's the coaching. That's what it always comes down to with Nederland sports. Lombardi once said to an opposing coach......." I could take your team and beat you." [/quote]Baddog i think coach English is a good coach not taking nothing from him,but if u think he can do this without them boys from PA. you selling yourself short. [/quote] Which boys from PA are you referring about? ALL of the kids on the team have attended NISD schools since middle school. If that's not profiling, I don't know what is...

[quote name="AggiesAreWe" post="962140" timestamp="1297041417"] [quote author=Honest Abe link=topic=79873.msg962102#msg962102 date=1297034361] BTW-Rcssports.com has Nederland ranked 18th in the region and Silsbee ranked 20th in the region(all classifications included) [/quote] And that means? [/quote] It means there is more than one poll, and I'm guessing they've seen 70+ teams play too...

BTW-Rcssports.com has Nederland ranked 18th in the region and Silsbee ranked 20th in the region(all classifications included)

[quote name="FanintheStands" post="962100" timestamp="1297033395"] [quote author=Honest Abe link=topic=79873.msg962097#msg962097 date=1297032901] I don't know of any big man in the area who is encouraged to dribble, although they do it at times... [/quote]It's like telling people not to slow down and look at an accident as they drive by.  No matter how many times its said, you still do it. [/quote] True dat! Huge pet peeve of mine, BTW! Stupid drivers.  >:( >:( >:(

[quote name="FanintheStands" post="962093" timestamp="1297031624"] [quote author=Honest Abe link=topic=79873.msg962087#msg962087 date=1297030452] I think we all agree their defense is one of their strong pts. The Dawgs have handled pressure really well since the Bulldog Classic. They've not allowed Ozen or Central's pressure to affect their game (hence their victories over them). Nederland can adjust to pressure. It would be challenging for Silsbee to adjust to height and length and speed. 8) [/quote]I didn't realize that the Dogs had made that much of an adjustment.  I would hazard to guess that Silsbee's man-to-man is more intense than Ozen and Central's, but by how much, I wouldn't know. But yes, I would be concerned, if I was Silsbee, with a tall team.  But the first thing those skyscrapers had better realize is that they had better not dribble even once if they are posted up, because [b]they will lose the ball[/b]. [/quote] I don't know of any big man in the area who is encouraged to dribble, although they do it at times...

[quote name="FanintheStands" post="962086" timestamp="1297029974"] [quote author=Honest Abe link=topic=79873.msg962081#msg962081 date=1297029202] [quote author=FanintheStands link=topic=79873.msg962030#msg962030 date=1297020779] [quote author=Honest Abe link=topic=79873.msg962016#msg962016 date=1297018418] Game goes to double OT at Montagne. @@ Ned holds ball for 90 secs. English drains the 3 this time. Nederland wins in Doubele OT by 3. [/quote]Nope.  Everybody KNOWS that Silsbee wouldn't let Nederland hold the ball for 90 seconds. They are far too smart for that!   ;)  If they tried, all they would see would be the back of the Tiger's jersey as he goes in for a layup after a steal. [/quote] The 90 secs comment was a joke-BTW. I don't think we'll see that happen for a while (God willing). As mentioned b4, it's a toss up. Out of 10 games: Nederland wins 5 Silsbee wins  5 [/quote]And my response was a joke...... hence the wink.  ;) But I think you are right.  It would be a close matchup, although I think Silsbee would have the upper hand.  The pressure that Silsbee puts on the ball is very intense. [/quote] I think we all agree their defense is one of their strong pts. The Dawgs have handled pressure really well since the Bulldog Classic. They've not allowed Ozen or Central's pressure to affect their game (hence their victories over them). Nederland can adjust to pressure. It would be challenging for Silsbee to adjust to height and length and speed. 8)

[quote name="FanintheStands" post="962030" timestamp="1297020779"] [quote author=Honest Abe link=topic=79873.msg962016#msg962016 date=1297018418] Game goes to double OT at Montagne. @@ Ned holds ball for 90 secs. English drains the 3 this time. Nederland wins in Doubele OT by 3. [/quote]Nope.  Everybody KNOWS that Silsbee wouldn't let Nederland hold the ball for 90 seconds. They are far too smart for that!   ;)  If they tried, all they would see would be the back of the Tiger's jersey as he goes in for a layup after a steal. [/quote] The 90 secs comment was a joke-BTW. I don't think we'll see that happen for a while (God willing). As mentioned b4, it's a toss up. Out of 10 games: Nederland wins 5 Silsbee wins  5