Layingemdown

This website is about as bad as it gets....terrible...not even worth listening to.

I like these personal polls.  The last time PNG wasnt in your top 5 polls, we all know what happened......10-0.

IMO, the Bulldogs are the only real rivalry to PNG.  LC-M may think of PNG as a rival, I've heard, but I have never seen them as a real rival.  The spirit against Central is growing, since we have competed for the title the past couple of years, but really no big rival there.

Thats true Brenham.  Crosby has defenitely been battle tested.

[quote name="SouthPaugh" post="915401" timestamp="1290346859"] [quote author=badndn link=topic=76421.msg915372#msg915372 date=1290330143] Maybe you didn't see it from your side of the stadium, but your players did way more than huddle at midfield. If that's all they had done, I wouldn't have mentioned it as I have no problem with that, but I'm here to tell you SouthPaugh, they were pointing fingers at our side and and taunting our players on our side. It wasn't just one or two either, it was about one third of the team. And our players went through our run through before Willis did and were already on our sideline when this all occured. The officials had to go out to midfield and stop them. Thats why the officials stood at midfield during the entrances in the second half. Argue all you want on this one SouthPaugh, just calling it like I saw it. I think youll find in the morning when they wake up, that I wasn't the only PNG Fan that felt like Willis showed very little class! I have not seen a team act like that in a long time. But hey like I said once you begin to dissrespect your opponent...you get what you deserve...YOU GET BEAT! Other than all that it was a heck of a game! [/quote] As I recall Willis came out first in the first half. If our kids did that, Coach Jackson will punish them. I have seen plenty of disrespectful teams win. That has nothing to do with winning and losing. It has to do with handling a situation. If they did it, it was in poor taste- much like they way you are generalizing and much like the way PNG band played while we played the school song at the end. Like I said, PNG was no model for sportsmanship last night. [/quote] We always play Cherokee at the end of the game....maybe it was disrespect for you to play your school song during Cherokee.  Besides, I'd like to thank your fanbase for standing for our school song at the begining of the game, like most schools do.  No problem, we stood for yours....without being told to.  That personifies the class Willis has as a whole, and spilt over to your teams poor taste.  Seems to me that you bunch of rookies to the playoffs do not know how to handle a little success.  And yes, two rounds is a little.

[quote name="SHSTIGER" post="910350" timestamp="1289878833"] Went to the Silsbee game Thurs. at Cardinal Stadium and the PNG game Friday. Much preferred Cardinal Stadium. Sight lines are not good at all in the upper deck, it seems like it was built too flat (needed more angle to them) or they should have been spread farther out away from the field. From the top rows you can barely see the sidelines. [/quote] This. Both facilities are awesome but BISD either needed the stands further away from the field or a steeper angle to the upper deck.  If you're more than halfway up the upper deck you cant see the sideline.  Saying this I'd still play there every week of the playoffs if possible cause its a good atmosphere and easily accessible.

with their offense they can win some games but they need to likely win Friday night to get in.

[quote name="ABSENT!" post="894570" timestamp="1288708650"] [quote author=NDNWarrior link=topic=75383.msg894143#msg894143 date=1288657320] Hands down:  Brennen Doty (PNG) [/quote] This statement is funny... Doty has been out  performed by a statistical measure.  And well outperformed!  Not to mention he has thrown 3 more picks and has nowhere near the rushing TD's... It is a Gonzo / Green battle by far.  Doty is a great talent but these ifs, ands, & maybes don't count!! The REAL proof is in the numbers!!!! [/quote] Numbers don't always mean everything....if that were the case, Jarrod Johnson would have been at the Heismann party with Colt McCoy last year.  Gonzo=no playoffs, no district championships.......Green=no playoffs, no district championships........Doty=playoff run[b]S[/b], 10-0 premier, and a district championship.  The real proof is in winning. Aside from that, you are failing to mention in your stats statement that Doty leads in completions, completion %, passing td's, and is 2nd in passing yards.  The true stat is more than likely in the QB Rating: Doty 105, Gonzales 111, and Green 115.  However, I go with the wins over the stats.

[quote name="TITAN POWER" post="894429" timestamp="1288699019"] PNG people kill me.   [b]Green[/b] from Ozen, and to take a quote from indian nation "Hands Down"  That kid is fantastic. [/quote] If your talking about who is the best QB as far as MVP wise, it would have to be Green.  If your talking about best QB athlete, again, I would go with Green. Granted they are 0 for, but without him, they would get killed.  If your talking about true dual threat, stat wise, I would have to go with Gonzales.  If your talking about QB talent at the next level, would have to go with Doty, much better arm and accuracy than the others.

[quote name="trainerbc" post="894512" timestamp="1288705564"] [quote author=Layingemdown link=topic=75412.msg894501#msg894501 date=1288704971] [quote author=trainerbc link=topic=75412.msg894495#msg894495 date=1288704364] So is he incorrect in this thread? [Hidden Content] According to this thread there is a chance that PNG could not go. [/quote] yes.  Vidor beating Livingston has no bearing on PNG, they are two games behind the Indians. [/quote] PNG - Win and they're in. If they lose, they are NOT in only if Livingston beats Vidor and Nederland beats LCM by 11 points or less. This doesn't say anything about Vidor beating Livingston. [/quote] OK I read that wrong.  This scenerio is going by point differentials.  The way I was told is that is not the first tiebreaker option in 20-4A anymore.  If there is a 4-way tie  (PNG, LCM, Nederland, Livingston) they records against each other first: Livingston 2-1 Nederland 2-1 PNG 1-2 LCM 1-2 PNG defeated LCM head up so they would get the last spot.  1. Central 2. Livingston 3. Nederland 4. PNG This is how it was told to me.

[quote name="trainerbc" post="894495" timestamp="1288704364"] So is he incorrect in this thread? [Hidden Content] According to this thread there is a chance that PNG could not go. [/quote] yes.  Vidor beating Livingston has no bearing on PNG, they are two games behind the Indians.

[quote name="bobcat777" post="894466" timestamp="1288702306"] ALL im saying is bmt ent. should not say there in when actually there not in unless certian things go there way [/quote] Beaumont enterprise is correct.

[quote name="bobcat777" post="894451" timestamp="1288700646"] How does this work out. If lcm beats ned and vid beats liv i think png is out. [/quote] incorrect.  Their seeding can change based on what happens Friday but the Indians are in the playoffs. PNG 4-2 LCM 4-2 Livingston 3-3 Nederland 3-3 Vidor 2-4 In your scenerio, LCM beats Nederland, Central over PNG and Vidor beats Livingston the records would be: PNG 4-3 LCM 5-2 Vidor 3-4 Nederland 3-4 If the 4-way tie scenerio plays out PNG still gets in with their head-up win over LCM.  It's already been explained so I wont type it all out.

[quote name="BMTSoulja1" post="889593" timestamp="1288283525"] I'm questioning the PN-G turnout this year.  I went to the Ozen/PN-G game a few weeks ago and sat on PN-G side and there were a lot of seats left.  Maybe it was who they were playing, I guess.  But I don't think they come out real tough. [/quote] A Saturday night game with LU playing at home will do that.  Plus, Vidors visitors side is nowhere near the size of the BISD Stadium visitor's side.

[quote name="BMTSoulja1" post="885111" timestamp="1287848804"] It will be a bad matchup for the Pirates. PN-G's weakness is the pass defense, were as Vidor don't pass and don't look good when trying to do it.  On the flipside, Vidor's pass defense is pretty stout.  But the question is will PN-G unleash Bertrand?   Another question is can PN-G stop Vidor's running game.  If PN-G can't stop Vidor's running game, Vidor pulls this out by 2 scores.. If PN-G goes smashmouth (which they should,  PN-G by 3 TD's.  I think this is what will happen... 42-21 Indians... [/quote] So, just for example....your saying Vidor could win 14-0, or PNG could win 21-0?  Nice spread, I wish you made the lines in Vegas.  Livingston beat PNG with the running game, and piled up a lot of yards in doing so.  However, since then, PNG went to the 5-3-3 which has stopped the running game for teams afterwards.  Vidor may score off a couple of suprise passes, but in the end, nobody has stopped the PNG offense......and nobody is going to.  Vidor will however, keep the clock rolling, and not allow as many of points as PNG is accustomed to.  With that said: PNG 31 Vidor 14

[quote name="elhector1" post="860212" timestamp="1285706260"] Inappropriate?  No... Unimportant?  Yes... It is a battle between two co-workers that all the comments in the world will not solve.  In other words, we don't have a dog in this hunt...However, thank you for providing a stomping ground where we could let our overactive imaginations run amok.  I like that word, "amok". [/quote] All the comments may not help, but it sure is good to have to let him know what everyone else thinks.

[quote name="AggiesAreWe" post="859930" timestamp="1285688093"] [quote author=Layingemdown link=topic=73584.msg859788#msg859788 date=1285678513] [quote author=AggiesAreWe link=topic=73584.msg859165#msg859165 date=1285612772] I am wondering why this question wasn't asked somewhere else? ;) [/quote] For a minute, I thought I posted it in the wrong forum, then I went and looked. SETXsports > SETXsports Main Forum > High School Football  [b]Not sure where you want me to put it[/b]. [/quote] Ask one of your work buddies. ;D [/quote] I'm not sure what the problem is....do you find this question inappropriate or what?  Very confused on your comments.

[quote name="AggiesAreWe" post="859165" timestamp="1285612772"] I am wondering why this question wasn't asked somewhere else? ;) [/quote] For a minute, I thought I posted it in the wrong forum, then I went and looked. SETXsports > SETXsports Main Forum > High School Football  Not sure where you want me to put it.

Please feel free to comment either way.

[quote name="shovelhead" post="846520" timestamp="1284404953"] [quote author=badndn link=topic=72782.msg846446#msg846446 date=1284400512] As for those that keep wanting to point at the lose of Harmon as an issue or that Bertrand is an issue take a look at the numbers for each after three games this year and last. Yr                   Carries              Yards             YPC           TD 2009 Harmon        60                 361                6.01           4 2010 Bertrand       72                 391                5.43           3 Were you giving up on Harmon at this point last year or singing his praises, cause the numbers are pretty comprable? [/quote] Good info badndn. I'm a big fan of Harmon and now, Bertrand. Two good guys, with a little different running styles. As a guy in the bleachers, here is my take. Last year, Harmon ran harder, in the sense that his feet never quit until the whistle blew. Bertrand does not run like he is pumping quite as hard, but has a better, more experienced line blowing holes open for him. I don't miss Harmon like I miss Dre Dunbar. There are bigger questions in our defensive secondary than there are in our offensive backfield. I do have faith that our coaches will have solutions and will have the boys ready for district play. Go Indians! [/quote] Agree

IMO, Harmon's yards came on every play that helped sustain drives.  Bertrand's yards come on big breaks.  BTW, I'm not saying Bertrand isn't good...he is, but to say you dont miss Harmon is crazy.  It's not where he started as represented in this depiction, but I guess where he ended....1700yds is a lot. 1700/12= 141+ yds per game. According to your numbers, Harmon ran for 155 yds per game over the next 9 games.  What would be interesting though is if you could take away each Bertrands and Harmons 3 biggest runs during their first 3 games.  I bet you would have a much more lopsided stat after that.  

[quote name="PN-G bandkid" post="845023" timestamp="1284253299"] [quote author=Mbooyazz link=topic=72782.msg844291#msg844291 date=1284183143] C. PNG faithful are getting less faithful (seems we were outnumbered by TC pretty good) [/quote] Really? From my perspective at halftime, it looked like PN-G had Texas City outnumbered by at least 500 fans, probably more. Did we pack the stands like we usually do? No. But we still outnumbered the Texas City fans on their own field, two hours from home. [/quote] In no way did we outnumber them.....their bleachers were bigger and probably 7/8's full....ours were smaller and probably 3/4 full......with a bunch of onlookers not from our area.  That right there will let you know who had more people.  The area people that just came to watch a game, sat on the less packed side....ours.

[quote name="raideroldtimer" post="842245" timestamp="1284002254"] [quote author=KFDM COOP link=topic=72651.msg842209#msg842209 date=1283997270] [quote author=LR1969 link=topic=72651.msg842135#msg842135 date=1283990034] How does WO-S fall in the Big School poll after losing to 4A ranked Friendswood in the last minute of the game? Seems like to me the Stangs should've moved up! Just my two cents! [/quote] I agree!!! It aint like they havent played anyone. They just lost by 1 to a State Ranked 4A Team.  ??? [/quote]I have to agree too, PNG lost to a team who is not in the top 10 and landed at number 6 last week, WOS loses by the same anount this week to the number 8 team and they drop like a rock, that seems off to me and here I don't even like WOS. [/quote] You could possibly see that team PNG lost to make a state championship run......ranked or not, they were one of the top defenses in the state last year and returned 9 starters to defense.  Plus, the new spread they implemented this year to go with their ground game has them better on O.  They beat a very good CC Calleen team in week 1 too, who only put up 7 points.  As the year goes on, you will see how good that team PNG played is I believe. WO-S played lights out against Friendswood though, no doubt.

[b]PA Memorial[/b] @ Alice [b]West Brook[/b] @ Aldine Eisenhower Angleton @ [b]Dayton[/b] [b]Galveston Ball[/b] @ Beaumont Central Houston Sterling @ [b]Ozen[/b] Houston Washington @ [b]Livingston[/b] [b]Lumberton[/b] @ Silsbee [b]Houston Worthing[/b] @ Jasper [b]LCM[/b] @ Conroe Caney Creek [b]Nederland[/b] @ Barbers Hill [b]PNG[/b] @ Texas City Vidor @ [b]Kirbyville[/b] [b]Bridge City[/b] @ Beaumont Kelly Hamshire Fannett @ [b]Buna [/b] Hardin Jefferson @ [b]Anahuac[/b] [b]Orangefield[/b] @ Woodville Corrigan Camden @ [b]Newton[/b] Deweyville @ [b]Warren[/b] Trinity @ [b]Evadale[/b] West Hardin @ [b]Hardin[/b]

[b]Memorial [/b]  @  Ozen Central  @ [b]West Brook[/b] Barbers Hill  @ [b]Lumberton[/b] Crosby  @  [b]Port Neches Groves[/b] [b]Goose Creek [/b] @  Nederland [b]Livingston [/b]  @ Jasper Nacogdoches @ [b]LCM[/b] Anahuac  @  [b]Hamshire Fannett[/b] Buna  @  [b]Orangefield[/b] Cleveland  @ [b]Silsbee[/b] [b]Hardin [/b]  @ Tarkington Newton @ [b]Kirbyville[/b] [b]Splendora [/b] @ Hardin Jefferson West Orange Stark @ [b]Friendswood[/b] [b]Woodville[/b] @ Sheppard Deweyville  @ [b]Evadale[/b] [b]Groveton[/b] @ Warren [b]Colmesneil[/b] @ High Island [b]West Hardin[/b] @ Sabine Pass [b]Vidor[/b] @ Bridge City