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Vidor will rest there starters in the 3 quarter when the Pirates are up 35-7...

It wont be 35-7 but they will be up. This Vidor team can be misleading.

They lost to a BH on a muddy field when they depend on angle blocks and hard cuts by the running backs. BH also had a new coach and system without video to game plan by. Vidor also had not figured out the proper placement of personnel . Different team now. Should have beat NED by alot more than they did. Crushed PNG in the first half until a series of events led to their demise . PNG has been practicing to stop this offense for years and still the only thing that stopped Vidor was momentum from a few bad calls and play calling in the second half. PAM will have problems with it.

Turnaround Planner. We're sensitive about our town because we have to keep listening to crap from 50 years ago while Vidor has been integrated for some time now. There are two black sheriff department deputies that live down the road from my house. We get along great with most all of the black people in our immediate area...never an issue and great rivalries. Your school board started it when they cancelled the regular season games we were gonna play with each other because of that crud. So, it adds a little extra sting and incentive whenever anyone from your group posts anything vile about our town. I will stop that junk anytime I see it on this board. BTW, you haven't even seen Vidor play this year so how would you know? Your statistics have failed you numerous times in the last four years. I though y'all were gonna win state last year, out in the second round? Our first game with BH was an anomoly, I guarantee the outcome would be different now. And, again I challenge you to play PNG at the Rez and then get back with me. They are a different team in that stadium. One thing I will guarantee you monetarily...we will get 300+ yards of offense on you. We're not Splendora. I offered a peace pipe...the offer still stands.

VIDOR 28.       
PAM 14.          Halftime..

Golden Triangle....not greater Houston. Coach Thompson has D-1 talent, Xbox Harrison's entire team is, etc. etc.  I don't think we have many D1s coming out of Vidor. Matter of fact, not one this year. Coaching isn't always and shouldn't be measured by wins and losses. I'll still take Jeff for what he does with our kids.

Does your parents know your up this late posting? It's pass your bedtime. Go to sleep.

Vidor will win on a 2pt conversion. I'll say 43-42.  I told someone during the Lumberton Memorial game that Vidor will beat this team. PAM doesn't have the beef on DLine to slow Vidor down.

I'm going to go with the pirates on this one Vidor 42.  Pam 21.   As I said before all teams and coaches in our district play Vidors offense every year this will be a first for Pam..a couple of three and outs for Pam as I predict and it will be Vidors game...all night 

You missed my point. I am not saying that Vidor is slow scoring. What I am saying is that Vidor may not have the break away score like they have had with many teams. PAM defense is too good and too fast. They need to score slowly and eat up the clock to keep PAM off the field. 

Not wise to use common opponents to predict a win. 
For example: everyone destroyed GCM last year, yet our D.C. Nederland couldn't beat them.
Vidor gave Nederland a run for their money last year, only losing by 6 points in a game they could have won. Lumberton goes on to beat Vidor fairly easily. So by this scenario we should have beat Nederland right? Nope, we got smacked around 51-21.
My point is, different teams match up better against other teams. Y'all have speed, that matched up very well against PNG offense. Vidor is a whole other animal, and a very scary offense especially with the three headed monster they have running it. So I wouldn't be so confident.

Since it's all in fun, I'll say Vidor 36 PAM 35.  And understand, I've seen neither of these teams play.
Based on the above post, #25 will score 3 or 4 times, and I doubt he's the only bullet in the gun.  That accounts for PAM's 35.  Now to Vidor's 36.  Since I did see Vidor play Crosby and Angleton in 2011, it became apparent that teams that aren't familiar with the Slot T have all kinds of problems with it.  Imo, PAM's defensive speed will work against them.  I'm no coach, but it appears the way to defend it is for your defense to stay home.  An aggressive (fast) defense will bite on the first or second fake.  So Vidor scores as time runs out, down 35-34.  Goes for two, and makes it, winning 36-35.  Another storybook ending.  Kevin Costner is so inspired, he makes a movie about it.  The movie makes a ton of money, so they put in artificial turf at the Boneyard. That enables Barbers Hill to come back some day, and everyone lives happily ever after.  The End

Not gonna happen. We're gonna get our first district championship since 1978, much bigger.

Vidor is more than capable of beating PAM.  PAM doesn't have a QB like RJ.  PAM does not have the DLine to stop Vidor's run. Vidor gets 1 stop and they will win this game. 

Vidor coaches in the building 

Reason why it doesn't get called often is because everyone is going for the ball not the player which is what happened in this situation. Good discussion. Time to rest up on our bye week an get ready for PAM.

Vidor was called for interfering with the receiver catching the ball. I've seen the play several times. The PNG player who was identified as the receiver made no attempt to catch the ball. The Vidor players ran right by him, without touching him. The ball was recovered behind him. The ball had traveled ten yards, so no illegal touching. The ball was recovered and the Vidor players were running off the field when the flag was thrown. The refs missed an illegal hit in the back on the play by PNG. 
Not saying this called decided the outcome of the game. But it was a huge monumentium changer. If the call was made right and Vidor scores before half to go up 29-13, no telling how the second half goes. PNG may not have tried the on-side kick to start the third. For fear of giving Vidor a short field and being down by 16 already. 
Game is over and the outcome is not changing. Time now for everyone cheer on the district and take down 21-5a. 

I agree it probably was a bad call. I watched the cal many many time from 4 different angels. I still to this day do not know what the call is. I do know this. The ball just eclipsed the 10 yards needed to touch the ball. The only thing I could guess is the ref had a bad angle and thought it did not make the 10 yards, I am not sure one news source said it was an illegal touch, another place I read some sort of illegal block type deal. I have a good friend who works with TASO. I will shoot him a copy and ask his opinion on the matter. He can probably find out what the call is as well. This all being said. And assuming that Vidor would have scored. PNG still shut them out the whole second half. The reason was a simple but really good defensive adjustment that changed the dynamic of the stout Vidor offense. Vidor is one of the top offenses in district for a reason. They are difficult to play. Robanadana is right about the fact that its hard to stop when you never see it. Lets face it Vidors execution of it is stellar this season. They will be tough for any team in the playoffs!!!!

Lee by 7. I've been drinking non-stop since yesterday morning. 

BH ran the Wing - T similar to what we used to run and what Angleton runs. You can run multiple pass formations from that set. We run a true Slot - T with a tight formation line which is a little different. Purists such as Dubois rarely pass from this set. BH stopped us because we had the wrong personnel in the wrong places on both sides of the ball; the changes were made the week before that game. We still managed 350 yds of offense and was in their red zone 3 times in the first half but couldn't punch it in. Maverick came in to play QB in the second half and we scored. Saturday after the game, Jeff and his staff made wholesale changes to the team and the rest is history. I truly believe the outcome of a Vidor / BH game would be a little different if we played today.

What about Liberty? I know im a homer, but the way you worded that "no one else has the talent" well in our case 4A division 2 has very little talent as a whole, and our region specifically is probably the least talented region in 4ad2 outside of WOS who liberty wouldn't have to play till the 4th round. IMO since the talent is watered down, and liberty does have some talent, I'd say the panthers do have the talent to make a run in 4a division 2 in this region. 

Here's how I see it: Ned wins out and makes MCM relevant because KJAC, KFDM, FOX, SETXSports, KLVI, 92.5, ESPN, the Port Arthur News and Gabe Pruitt will all be happy and can make it the game of the century. Meanwhile, PAM and Vidor are playing for the district championship the last game of the regular season somewhere in northwestern Orange County. 

If Vidor gets Crosby, wouldn't surprise me to see Vidor go 3 deep.

Day in and day out, Silsbee, WOS and all of these schools have no chance playing bigger classification schools on a regular basis. You just don't have enough kids to cover the positions without some kids going both ways...they will wear you out. Good example: WOS vs. Richmond Foster. Over the course of a season, the injuries, etc. rack up and you lose. Fair is fair. 

We were getting reports of vidor doing on sides kicks. Imo. You just kick the ball and make them drive the field. Not saying that would have made vidor win, but you don't give an offense like that field position. 

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