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Bay city was a bad loss!! No excuses but, 2 things made it worse in that game.the center play at time was so bad.thats why they kept putting dugas under center.throws there timing off.and also every time they snapped the ball it was either high or low.go all the way back to the second half of nederland and all of the BC game.but we know with the play calling and not putting the QB in position to make plays.it doesn't matter.so if people say HF will win I truly understand why they say that.

#55 papillon had to move back to center.but, I'll give HF coaching staff the edge too.bcz, if we didn't learn anything last week.even though w.o played Carthage Abt even til half.then Carthage put on a coaching clinic!!I don't know if you realize Carthage had a couple of freshmen that played well.bcz, they were put I position to make plays.#13 and one of there dlinemen were freshman.surratt is the best coach in the state.he can do it with less talent any year.

HF would beat bay city!! If they looking at the matchup.ppl looking at the bay city and West Orange game.you can't.w.o center been hurt !! They had to move there starting right tackle to center and play a couple young kids the last couple weeks that wasn't ready for that Friday nite lights.there online will be better Friday.they just don't have the dogs to handle a Carthage,le vega, pleasant groves.but, around setx they can get by.

Yes,but I didn't say they were going to state or anything.they are better.the defense is ahead of last year.QB can at least complete 2 passes.where they couldn't throw at all til they got to the playoffs last year.against less talent they will be a handful.bcz, they do have wrs that can catch the ball well.its a matter if the QB can get them the ball!! If they would run screen plays more would help.w.o has struggled so bad the last 3 yrs. The QB play hasn't been that good.and defense is a little better than last year. #14 gipson is the best althete on the team.and he will get better as the season goes on.

It will be fun.im not saying w.o is state title team.but, they're alot better than last year team also.HF should've beat W.o last year too.but, what has this different is w.o will have a lot more options on offense the last 2yrs w.o hasn't had no passing game at all.there alot better at least there finally trying to throw the ball some. to get teams out that 7 and 8 man fronts.kj took them to state by making ppl miss last year and that's not gonna work this year.i think HF is better but w.o is too just for this area.i don't think any of our local teams make it to state.

I think it is too!! If w.o line holds up. W.o by a couple of scores.HF hasn't seen a CB like #18.one of the best in the state.even Carthage coach was surprised that w.o didn't play man to man.if they play man HF will have trouble but if they go back to all this zone.HF will give them problems.and I said a couple of scores bcz, if OC 3steps and let dugas throw it HF will have trouble slowing them down.

If w.o doesn't get a center.they have no offense at all!!! This has been a problem for 2weeks.i think the kid has lost his confidence. Putting dugas under center is not the answer

That other team wasn't trying at all.they had players just standing around with no effort.

Nederland needs to run #2 more.i thought they gave WB a gift in this win.they should've not put #10 back in the game.the kid was hurt.if they had left #2 in I really do believe nederland would have won this game.they we're at WB 30 with 3minutes to go and WB had 2 time outs left.

They have to throw the ball !! For whatever reason the OC chooses not to. The have a good wr group.that should give nederland problems if they throw the ball.if w.o throw the ball early and often things could get out of hand for nederland.

I saw him play in the 8th grade against w.o told a few ppl then silsbee had something coming with that kid!!

It doesn't matter 1 year extension. And to make matters worse.toby dad will help coach dbs and thomas brooks who was at w.o with them doing the championship days coming in to help coach the DL. Things really fixing to get interesting.FB has been on fire for over a day now. Hoping it settles down bcz, some of the kids has read some of the things that has been posted.hopinh for better days.

But, they just got a boost coach T is the new DC.toby dad will help with the DBs, and another familiar guy coming out of retirement to help toby.coach thomas brooks smh, CT says he is motivated and looking for the opportunity in Jasper!!! Smh.

Navydawg31 exactly!! It want be what many might predict. That fight that was missing is back!! I know about kj edwards ,that LB, and a few great dlineman.but, the fight from our kids are coming.

To all my stangs brothers and sisters on here.its great to be back in Texas!!;great win I see.wos#1 fan probably one of the insightful people you may know on here.brings me to a scripture prov 12:1 to learn, you must love discipline;it is stupid to hate correction.it leads to wisdom!! With that been said HH has truly took on the assignment head on and won.it real doesn't matter what happens in the state game because he has already over achieved.cant blame someone for trying something different!! Even he will tell you he got back to what the kids know and the discipline that came with it.first few years he was trying to hard to fit in with the kids.where in practice kids pretty much did what they wanted too.ive seen it with my own eyes.i have even seen a player dad want to fight him because the kid lied and said a coach told him that he was the worse player in w.o history.and what no one on here knows.I know him really well and talk with him to leave that alone.so, HH didn't deserve that.!!at the end of the day the community wasn't exactly wrong about something's.even then instead of folding he went out and got an unsong hero who no one gives any credit too.is the new DC who is in sink on what they need to run on defense.so, no one on here could say they saw this coming!? #4 Jefferson has always been different every since little league.and his cousin Terrance Brown #34 helping him along the way.so, HH has to get a lot of credit once again.he learned not to change things just add too it.and that works. DRH and CT discovered something that brought the best out of orange,TX kids. the thing about this if you never saw the program from practice,games,to Saturday meeting and so on.and listening to what the board members had to say.some are truly outsiders watching the game.and the biggest one is never played here.a pair lips will say anything!! LLDRH !!!

Gasilla,ladybug33,wosdrummer99,wos#1,Mmustangfan and so on this site.hard to put in words what he meant to all of us. And the program!! He wasn't just a coach a leader.i don't know anyone who wouldn't have loved to play for him.i know many say we were spoiled for all the years we were winning.and now today's game has changed.but, the toughness he and CT expected out of all of us was unmatched.looking on FB it is sooo many ppl.sending love and support.and if y'all get a chance look at what Kevin smith wrote about him.its truly a sad day for all of us.as them kids get ready to play in the semifinals.we all gotta give the current staff credit for going back to the way things were.trust me they even tackling more in practice and even hitting the sled again after practice!! I truly believe HH learned the lesson of it wasn't broke don't try to fix it.LOL,OC well any way!! But I truly have seen a lot of the old stuff that made us great.i know he is smiling down on all of us. The ol ball coach rip dan ray hooks !!

He did.and every time we went and met (pup) at A& M. Man we teased him.but he was a load to bring down.

Need you to make sure scores are posted.i m out the states on vacation.hoping they win so,I can at least go to the state game.

Just one little bit to add that most wouldn't know.after a few descent runs by randy simmons. CT moved Quinton tezeno from safety to LB the rest of game.he and Jeff knox absolutely got after him !!

Wow.praying for his family !!

Brad grant ladybug!! Those thick glasses he had.u wouldn't believe that he was that good.he was supposed to have had an offer from lamar back then.

Where will it be played at ???

But his knee is still really soar from the previous week. So he is not 100 percent!!

I'm here !! Give credit where credit is due. HH and the DC have been doing a great job together. But, at the same time what Jefferson is doing is unbelievable carrying us. For whatever reason the OC want throw the ball on 1st down still scares me.but, it's not all his fault the QB playing sometimes scared to throw the ball.he done great up and until last nite.jefferson is making kids miss in the backfield on his own so u can't give the coaches credit for that. But, the biggest thing there not letting the kids get down when things go wrong.so, if anyone tells me a team has over a 100yds in penalties in the first half and still be in the game.that normally don't happen.just think if they could throw the ball how much better they would be!!but, it was a learning curve for both players and coaches!! So some how and some way we have to find a passing game.

Not having your starting QB is a lot to ask for.kids fought hard and they will be back !! Great effort as always.