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I agree!

Will BS win State?

Hey CATMAN, go back to the Basketball forum. ;D

Dayton will be good!

He can coach, there's no doubt!

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Should the horse-collar tackle be outlawed for hs football? H.S. Football: Coaches mull horse-collar tackle Web Posted: 10/08/2007 10:19 PM CDT Chad Peters Express-News Once it became clear two years ago the increasingly popular "horse-collar" tackle posed an injury risk to its players, the NFL wasted little time in banning the controversial technique. It now draws a 15-yard penalty and, potentially, a fine. But the horse collar remains part of the high school game these days, most notably last weekend when Madison running back Devin Thomas' season came to an end after he suffered a broken ankle on such a tackle against Reagan. So is it time for high school football to follow the NFL's lead and outlaw the horse collar? Some area coaches say they think so. Others, such as Smithson Valley coach Larry Hill, say they aren't so sure. "As sad as this injury is, it is unfortunately part of the game," Hill said. "My personal feeling is that horse collaring is rare and I'm not sure if it's ever intended. Cut tackles and blocks bring about far more injuries. "I don't know if I have an opinion on whether any of this ought to be subjected to penalties." Reagan coach David Wetzel agreed, saying, "I honestly can't say that I've seen it any more (recently). It's not something that, to me, has been brought to the forefront until (the Thomas injury) happened. It's something that had never crossed my mind." The horse collar was made popular by Dallas Cowboys safety Roy Williams, who in 2004 severely injured the legs of three players while using it, including then-Philadelphia wide receiver Terrell Owens. The controversial technique involves grasping inside the back of the shoulder pads to yank the opposing player to the ground. Though not used to intentionally cause injury, it has proven dangerous because it often traps the player's legs underneath him as he is jerked to the field. "In the old days we tackled any way we could," O'Connor coach Danny Padron said. "It's the same thing. We're aware of that now. It might be looked at in the future, but you're still going to get guys doing it. Roy Williams still tackles that way." Since high school football operates under the rules of the NCAA, the college game must first ban the horse collar for it to become illegal on high school fields. Lewis Stroud, a high school football referee for 35 years, said he hasn't seen many horse-collar tackles in games he's officiated this season. Still, he said he thinks the NCAA might consider banning the technique when it convenes next offseason to discuss potential rule changes. "They take everything into consideration in regards to safety," Stroud said. "In fact, the majority of the football rules are for safety. ... If there is some kind of problem, they will pick up on that and make rules to take care of that." Lanier offensive coordinator Lyn Boehme said he thinks those safety concerns eventually will lead to the horse collar being penalized. Though he said he doesn't know anyone who coaches the technique, he estimated seeing the horse collar two to three times per game. "Until Roy Williams came up with the approach, it was not a big deal," he said. "It's become more popular now. "When it happens, it is often catastrophic."

We'll see.

I disagree!

PA NEWS PLAYER OF THE WEKK The Port Arthur News Hagan Daigle, Hamshire Fannett — Passed the marsh and into the sticks of Longhorn country, this junior tailback and defensive back brought the lumber to Hardin-Jefferson on Friday night. With HF’s 35-6 win, the Longhorns improve to 3-2 overall and 1-1 in District 21-3A. It was a huge game for the Horns but no one came up bigger than Daigle, who cut through the Hawks’ defense for 172 rushing yards and two scores. On defense, Daigle made two interceptions, seven tackles and three pass deflections, earning this week’s top-honors for player-of-the-week. Head coach Mangan said Daigle’s performance was one of the best he has seen in a long time. “He is a great player who is learning the offense. He gets better and better with the offense every week. He is averaging seven yards a carry for the season in a system that uses a platoon of backs. When he gets his touches, he makes the most of them. Maybe we should be using him a lot more on offense, but he is just as important to us on defense. He has four interceptions this year and had five last year. He really came up big for us Friday night. That was a very important win for us.†Honor Roll Warreal Grogan, Nederland — In a night where the Bulldogs destroyed Central 40-29 in Beaumont, you could throw a dart at the Bulldogs’ roster with your eyes closed to find a player who performed well. As much scoring that went on for the offense, it was Mr. Grogan’s defensive performance that raised eyebrows on Friday night. Grogan returned a blocked punt for a touchdown, caused a safety, recorded six tackles, including three for sacks and batted a ball in the endzone. Head coach Larry Neumann said Grogan graded out at an 84 and had an all-around great night. Tramain Thomas, East Chambers — Pick up a month of Monday’s newspapers and you might find one or two weeks where Thomas doesn’t make the cut for the player-of-the-week nomination. This week, the usual offensive stud makes the honor roll for his defensive efforts in the Bucs’ 21-0 victory over Deweyville on Friday night. Thomas made eight solo tackles, five assists, one tackle for loss, grabbed two interceptions and also swatted another pass safely to the ground. Not to be overlooked, Thomas also had 123 rushing yards with one touchdown and 39 yards through the air. Defensive unit, Memorial — The Titans’ had a total team effort from their defense in Friday night’s 50-18 destruction of Atascocita. In about six-and-a-half minutes, the game went from 15-12 in the third quarter to 38-12 because of Memorial’s defense. Terry Coleman ran in a fumble recovery for a touchdown. Earl Hines did the same and defensive back Desmond Gardiner brought back an interception for a 38-yard touchdown. After all that, the defense sacked Atascocita’s quarterback in the Eagles endzone for a safety. Memorial allowed just one first down in the second half, and Atascocita’s only score in the second half came from its defense. Head coach Ronnie Thompson said his defense got the whole team going. Jake Hemmings, Port Neches-Groves — The Tribe’s running game punished the Battlin’ Bears for 236 yards on 40 carries and four touchdowns in Friday night’s 41-13 thumping at the Reservation. Hemmings led the way with three scores and 110 yards for PN-G, a effort that helped improve the Indians to 3-2 overall and 2-0 in District 22-4A. Hemmings had scores of 18 yards, five yards and two yards, carrying the ball just 16 times. Caleb Worthy, Orangefield — In a 24-14 losing effort to Jasper on Friday night, Worthy did everything in his power on defense to keep the game close. Worthy recorded 14 tackles, including eight solos and six assists and also had an interception.

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Remember Defense wins Championships. I think Nederland has a shot in 4A. In 3A WOS certainly has a shot. They are getting better each week, especially on defense. Get past Giddings and they have a shot.

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:o AWESOME SHOW.

36-16 Nederland leads.

Not up to this point.

Most Overated 22-4a?

How about Central/Lumberton this week?

Thanks 87. Has the State All Time Winning Percentage changed or does WOS still hold it?

Bay City defeated 4A Brenham. WOS has played Bay City closer than anyone so for.

Mathews right man for the job Gabriel Pruett The Orange Leader If there was ever a coach that cared about his players, it would be Vidor's Jeff Mathews. Vidor has probably never had a coach like this guy. Here lately though Mathews has been under some heat on the internet and around water coolers. The Pirates are 1-4 this year after going 3-7 a year ago. Vidor has not had a winning mark since 2002 when the Pirates went 6-4 and have not made the playoffs since 2000 when they lost to Nederland 21-9. The last time before 2002 the Pirates made a playoff run was in 1978 when Vidor fell to Aldine. Six coaches made a stop at Vidor in between the playoff drought before Mathews, a graduate of Bridge City High School and McNeese State, took the helm in 1999. Stop putting the blame on Mathews, the longest-tenured coach in Vidor’s history. Getting to the playoffs in the 4A district in Southeast Texas is no cake walk. In 2002 through 2003 West Orange-Stark, Ozen, Lumberton, Beaumont Central, Little Cypress-Mauriceville, PN-G, Silsbee and Nederland made up a monster nine-team district. This brunts the blame for not making the playoffs and not Mathews. The years 2004 and 2005 saw the district slim down a bit as Silsbee left but Nederland, PN-G, Central and Ozen were still around. Then last year added Dayton. I am sure that made Mathews a real happy person. Yet his Pirates always fight on. Vidor is one of the hardest places to play, ask Nederland that from last year when the Pirates won 28-24. The list goes on and on. Wins and losses are always what fans and supporters hang on to but there is so much more than that with high school football. Mathews cares and does his best week in, week out to put his Pirates in position to win. The wins may come at a premium in Vidor but they do come. In 2004 the Pirates downed Central and a year later beat Lumberton. The simple and painful truth in District 22-4A is that the top teams are the top teams each and every year. Parity has yet to drop from the NFL to college and down to Southeast Texas. PN-G, Nederland, Central, Ozen and now Dayton are expected to be in the playoffs every year. It is hard for a team like Vidor to compete against these powerhouses, yet they do compete. This year the Pirates lost their top two running backs for several weeks then traveled to Nederland to face the Bulldogs who had revenge on their mind. It was also a night when Nederland celebrated honored the 50th anniversary of the 1957 Nederland Bulldogs’ state championship team. Once again I am sure Mathews was saying thanks to that one. This can be guaranteed, Mathews never made an excuse. The Pirates did what they always do. They showed back up the next week and practiced just like they had won the game. There are a lot of lessons in football to be learned and Mathews knows most of them have more to do with life than winning and losing.