Red Dawn
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13 minutes ago, ScubaSteve said:
Crosby’s potentials:
holding, td called back
missed extra point
can’t field pooch kick
No defense
I want to win em all to Scuba. But this is high school football. Lots of positives in this 9-1 season that was supposed to be a down year, that I think you are over looking.
We may lose to PNG. They may lose to us. Either way PNG & Crosby are good programs. State Elite programs? no. But would 95% of communities trade places with us, I’d think so.
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11 minutes ago, ROSCHONSBIGBRO said:
Your team has multiple athletes that the coaches trust. The last two years toward the end of the season and playoffs png has leaned way to hard on #2. If that continues, Y'all will win and he will very likely get hurt at some point. What made this offense deadly was the multiple athletes being utilized. Plus you guys are not a good match up for us on D at all.
I'm for Hughes back at rb full time since they don't pass it to him and not using the rbs.e
I think it is an even match up. Who ever plays closest to their potential wins. Penalties and turnovers are huge.
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1 hour ago, Realville said:
Surely you know I was being facetious!! Lol!
Yes. But I’m not. Crosby is Mecca!!! ;-)
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7 minutes ago, Realville said:
Oh the webs we weave! Lol! Good Luck with Crosby! You know Crosby is the Mecca of football that has never won a state championship. Just ask them how good they are they’ll tell you.
We are THE Mecca of Football!!!
:-)
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5 minutes ago, ScubaSteve said:
Yep I remember.
After what I just watched I predict png will beat my Cougars. Heck, I’m 50 years old & I think I could run for a first down on our defense...ok ok maybe not but I could at least walk & gain a yard or maybe two.
The ups & downs of Friday night lights.
I honestly have NO idea what to expect next Friday. I will predict that the winning team will score 52 or more points.
There may be a total of 120 points scored.
I hate we lost but I will say I’m more excited now about this 1st round matchup!!!
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Good game NC. I knew a loss was possible. I didn’t see a butt whooping coming.
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8 hours ago, Eagle Nation said:
I don't think Westerberg reports any individual stats.
Heck we do. Get lots of kids the ball and let the numbers roll!!!
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11 minutes ago, Lightning/Eagle said:
Thanks we appreciate it. Oh you meant the BH Eagles
Ha ha. Best I can do for the NC Eagles is wish for safe travels and an injury free game. :-)
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9 minutes ago, TradenupBH said:
I'm not knocking Jaiden, I just think the NC QB is better.
Haven’t seen NC qb this year. Jaiden has grown a lot since BH game. Good luck to the Eagles tmrw.
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1 hour ago, TradenupBH said:
Lol, well the Friendswood game wasn't a scheduled game and was a post Harvey find a game. Friendswood history is what I was going off of. The other game I thought we would lose was Crosby because they just have our number. I'm talking district though, mainly Crosby folks thinking BH isn't going to the playoffs. I do remember before the Friendswood game, Lol, props to you.
I believe BH beats Porter tmrw. A few weeks ago I’d have picked Porter.
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1 hour ago, TradenupBH said:
BH is the unforgotten team, which is fine with me. BH is a strong team, and others have written them off. Here's the tale of the tape, BH starts the shortened season out by beating a good 6A Friendswood team. BH plays Crosby at home and came out punching the Cougars in the mouth and led 32-26 going into the 4th Quarter, but couldn't close out the game as Crosby scored 22 unanswered points in the 4th Q to win. The next game that everyone gave up on BH was the Kingwood Park game. BH came out and went up 7-0 early in the game. KP answered scoring 13 points, but in 2Q BH starting QB got injured and left the game. The offense had a hard time getting into sync do lack of reps from our converted WR at QB. BH couldn't move the ball on offense, but what people don't realize is the Defense stepped up and KP never scored in the second half. BH still had a chance at the end of the game to pull out a win with a kid that hasn't played QB in two years. Skip to the next game, coach made the decision that I think was probably the decision that gives BH the best chance and he pulled another WR that is a stellar QB and BH began to run the tables to 5 straight district wins including a thrashing of New Caney which probably has the best QB in our district. The not talked about defense has quietly gotten better every week. I see BH taken care of business this week against an overrated Porter team to setup a rematch with PNG. By next week, BH will be a very tough out in the playoffs.
BH is a good team. I’m sure NC QB is good. I’m not giving up Jaiden Howard tho. Just sayin’.
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16 minutes ago, 2wedge said:
This is my official apology to Crosby Football. Early in the year I was very critical of this team, it's defense, and its QB. I have been proven wrong on most of the things I was critical of and I would like to apologize. I would also like to apply for official membership to the Cougar Bandwagon. If my application is accepted, I will vow to support Cougar football for the remainder of the season, and hopefully all the way to Arlington. That is all.
All are welcome. It has been a great year for a team that had a lot of question marks. Credit to the kids hard work and Rio & his staff for doing what they do.
Before the naysayers jump on me I’m not calling a State Championship. Just happy for a great bunch of well coached kids.
4 peat - District Champs!!!
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10 minutes ago, CCRed said:
Nah, Crosby just played to win. They didn't give them the full treatment. Splendora stuck to their running game and pounded 3-4 yards at a time using the clock. Until the end, Crosby scored on every offensive possession. They just didn't get that many. Splendora has a massive center that just mowed a path for the backs.
Largest 18 point victory ever!!!
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Nice win BH. I missed this one. Thought it might be close but thought NC would win. Good win by the Eagles when they needed it.
High School FB is the greatest!!!
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On 10/8/2017 at 6:14 AM, Red Dawn said:
Crosby / New Caney
Porter / KPark
Sticking with this.
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7 hours ago, texbuzz said:
· This will be long.
Long story short - If you take the point differential and divide it by the current MaxPreps rank you get a number. The Crosby number is better than I thought.
So, for the whole season this year, we have heard about how bad the Crosby defense is playing. Allowing too many points, mistakes. They won't be able to make it far in the playoffs. Hell, I feel that way most times also. But they win. So....how do you quantify that in a meaningful way.
With vague statistics!!
Look at the table below:
2014 schedule
PF
PA
Differential
Maxpreps Rank
Team X
17
21
-4
8
Team X
33
14
19
146
Team X
34
10
24
382
Team X
0
23
-23
438
Team X
31
28
3
112
Team X
41
12
29
524
Team X
34
39
-5
77
Team X
60
14
46
298
Team X
48
31
17
161
Team X
49
21
28
127
Team X
35
21
13
227
I blanked the opponents name but you might be able to figure it out.
That is the 2014 Cedar Park schedule and results.
Now here is the 2014 Crosby schedule and results:
2014 Crosby Schedule
PF
PA
Differential
MaxPreps Rank
Nederland
24
20
4
426
Angleton
38
20
18
145
Barbers Hill
30
7
23
363
Humble
17
10
7
422
Galena Park
62
10
52
851
Kingwood Park
24
14
10
287
Dayton
41
35
6
220
New Caney
24
0
24
491
Porter
39
13
26
747
C.E. King
21
28
-7
88
Cedar Park had 3 losses that year and Crosby had 1. Who had the better regular season? Crosby. Wins matter and Crosby had more of them. But as you know, that isn't the whole story. I wanted a way to apply the numbers that we have and figure out the true value of play. I am a fan so I am not unbiased. And, to me, I can't tell if I am watching a mediocre team stomp a bunch of bad teams or is this team really better than some teams in the past. So this is what I found.
Dividing the average point differential by the team's rank on MaxPreps (don't start, it is the number I have and it is easy to find) will give you a power number. This tells more than just W/L. Stomping a bad team will be washed somewhat by the bad teams high ranking number. The lower power number, the better the team has performed.
2014 Cedar Park lost 3 regular season games and handily beat Crosby deep in the playoffs Power number for both?
2014 Cedar Park Worthless Power Number = 17
2014 Crosby Worthless Power Number = 25
And the score showed as much. I got a number for 2017 Crosby and I wanted to compare it with other teams to see where those numbers fell. I didn't have time for all the teams so I was more selective.
I pulled up the Playoff Projections off of texasfootball.com. Every top 25 ranked team in the 5A DII bracket prediction got a number. Plus I wanted to do Manvel just to validate the number. Here is the Manvel table.
2017 Manvel Schedule
Manvel Score
Opponent Score
Differential
Maxpreps Rank
Pearland
45
7
38
91
North Shore
24
21
3
81
FB Willowridge
70
14
56
625
Ball
35
7
28
190
FB Marshall
56
27
29
166
FB Elkins
62
7
55
398
Texas City
Santa Fe
Galena Park
Manvel Averages
49
14
35
259
2017 Manvel WORTHLESS POWER #
7
Whoa. No other team gets close to a 7. Manvel only has 6 games so they could very easily come up some. But their numbers tell me they are whipping most teams (I should do Aledo). They deserve that number.
Next up is the ranked teams in the 5A DII predicted bracket.
Consolidated has a tough schedule.
2017 AM Consolidated Schedule
PF
PA
Differential
Maxpreps Rank
Copperas Cove
34
14
20
265
Magnolia
52
47
5
133
Austin
66
0
66
558
College Park
19
13
6
375
Waco
35
31
4
138
Temple
20
28
-8
50
College Station
17
28
-11
63
Bryan
12
3
9
218
University
Rudder
Team AVG
32
21
11
225
WORTHLESS POWER #
20
Next up is FB Marshall. They took two bad losses that hurt their number.
2017 FB Marshall Schedule
PF
PA
Differential
Maxpreps Rank
Klein
7
27
-20
112
FB Hightower
20
7
13
300
Galena Park
57
7
50
733
FB Willowridge
77
20
57
625
Manvel
27
56
-29
3
Ball
55
7
48
229
FB Elkins
Texas City
Sante Fe
Team AVG
41
21
20
334
WORTHLESS POWER #
17
College Station took some losses but this isn't that tough of a schedule.
2017 College StationSchedule
PF
PA
Differential
Maxpreps Rank
Westlake
28
35
-7
4
Shoemaker
49
10
39
478
St. Pius
41
58
-17
16
Pflugerville
35
0
35
459
Bryan
35
34
1
218
University
62
14
48
772
A&M Consolidated
28
17
11
97
Rudder
49
14
35
560
Waco
Temple
Team AVG
41
23
18
326
WORTHLESS POWER #
18
2017 Huntsville Schedule
PF
PA
Differential
Maxpreps Rank
China Spring
17
14
3
130
Conroe
41
13
28
636
Tomball Memorial
24
21
3
186
Willis
49
7
42
386
Magnolia
48
24
24
133
Waller
45
7
38
561
Tomball
Brenham
Magnolia West
Team AVG
37
14
23
339
WORTHLESS POWER #
15
PNG hasn't played talented teams but they have stomped the teams they did play.
2017 PNG Schedule
PF
PA
Differential
Maxpreps Rank
Sterling
55
13
42
234
Lumberton
42
0
42
507
Livingston
56
14
42
1048
Lee
59
21
38
865
Port Arthur Memorial
44
36
8
137
Vidor
42
14
28
269
Beaumont Central
Ozen
Nederland
Team AVG
50
16
33
510
WORTHLESS POWER #
15
I really like Hutto but they are going to run into a tougher schedule coming up. Cedar Park lost their QB so that may get interesting.
2017 Hutto Schedule
PF
PA
Differential
Maxpreps Rank
Bryan
54
14
40
218
Georgetown
25
23
2
98
Pflugerville Connally
63
28
35
621
Elgin
56
14
42
615
Bastrop
55
13
42
554
East View
56
19
37
451
Rouse
Cedar Park
Cedar Creek
Team AVG
52
19
33
426
WORTHLESS POWER #
13
And that gets us to the 2017 Crosby number. It is higher than I expected. Looking at the quality of opponent and the scores, this team is better than the 2014 team. Does it feel that way? Just by gut feel? Nope. But the numbers say this is a better team:
2017 Crosby Schedule
Crosby Score
Opponent Score
Differential
Maxpreps Rank
Jasper
42
36
6
151
Barbers Hill
48
32
16
231
Porter
42
35
7
333
LCM
58
14
44
279
Kingwood Park
63
45
18
422
Caney Creek
57
17
40
690
Dayton
69
27
42
454
Splendora
Humble
New Caney
2017 Season Avg
54
29
25
366
WORTHLESS POWER #
15
And sure, some of these playoff teams will get upended and be at home when we all just knew they would advance. That is the way it is. Will be interesting to see how well this number is predictively.
I need to try and get all the numbers for the district.
Nice work
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3 hours ago, bronco pride said:
Things I would like to see tonight. Scrap the rugby punt and just kick the ball. Anything close to the 50yd and in don't punt on 4th down and anything less than 2yds. Field position won't mean squat in this game. Work the ball deep down the middle of the field. Our receivers have good hands but are small so don't expect big plays side line to side line. Once you get a hand on them that's pretty much it. Certain kids need to play both ways. This is the grand daddy of them all. What a minute that's the Rose Bowl but this game is close enough. Defensively hope we can cause a few turnovers and make them earn their yds. I know that's asking a lot with a burner like Williams but hey this is my post so oh well. Last but not least save travels to all fans, players and coaches. I hope both teams play a great injury free game and of course GO BRONCOS!
Back at ya!!! Great rivalry. Great night for HS Football. Hats off to all these kids who’ve worked very hard. Go Crosby!!!
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14 hours ago, Eagle05 said:
How would the eagles be if there QB didn't get hurt?
10 hours ago, ScubaSteve said:I think they would only have that one loss to Crosby.
I agree with Scuba, but if you are going to run your QB as much as they did this young man you are drastically increasing his chances of injury. When your team is strong enough to win without putting your QB in danger you can minimize his injury chances.
That kid was getting hit nearly every play vs Crosby.
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17 hours ago, Red Dawn said:
I’ve thought that Crosby should have beaten Dayton handily the last three years. Credit to Dayton for playing hard and with pride to make the Cougars squeak out four victories in a row.
With that said I think Crosby is significantly better than Dayton this year, but 1) it is the Hwy 90 rivalry 2) it’s in Dayton and 3) the Broncos will give it all they’ve got
All those factors considered I’ll predict a Cougar victory 59 - 38.
Go Crosby!!!
1 hour ago, bronco pride said:You are the only poster that can pick the Bronx to lose by dang near 20 and I still have to like it. It's like a freakin Jedi mind trick or something.
Win big Cougars will...
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17 hours ago, PNGNDN1990 said:
who agrees that our defense coaches need to get their head out of the sand and move some kids around. our secondary is weak and if we continue with what we have on defense in playoffs its going to kill us. why wont they play some of the seniors or play hughes stansbury etc both ways. we are very strong offensively but defense is gonna kill us. we have a few strong kids on defense but not enough to get us deep in playoffs. Wont be able to do it by offense alone.
Defense? What is this thing you speak of?
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I’ve thought that Crosby should have beaten Dayton handily the last three years. Credit to Dayton for playing hard and with pride to make the Cougars squeak out four victories in a row.
With that said I think Crosby is significantly better than Dayton this year, but 1) it is the Hwy 90 rivalry 2) it’s in Dayton and 3) the Broncos will give it all they’ve got
All those factors considered I’ll predict a Cougar victory 59 - 38.
Go Crosby!!!
21-5a vs. 22-5a
in High School Football
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Not only may we not see a punt, we may not see anything but onside kicks!!! It doesn’t matter if we/they score from 70 or 50. TD is still 6 points.