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yes we are talking about the health of young players arms, and yes i have heard of the "famed" knucklecurve.  Teaching kids off-speed pitches should be done as i said earlier when the player has the mentality to approach learning the craft seriously.  Age not really a factor, but as you said and i agree development physically and mentally.  The fastball should be learned and the ability to command that pitch first.  A curveball or slider or any other pitch is not thrown by grip.  Grip is just a matter of comfort of the ball in the hand.  Different pitches are thrown by hand position at release.  Not with a snap of the rist or twisting violently- that will put added pressure to the arm, particularly the elbow.  Thrown correctly and the perceived added stress is minimal.  That being said an 8 year old does not need to be learning a curveball or any other pitch other than how to throw the ball correctly. 

[quote name="KAISER SOSAY" post="1405160" timestamp="1368723746"] For developing arms in younger pitchers all you really need is one good off speed pitch to be effective. A true slider is also hard on the arm, much like a curve. A circle change-up or a knuckle curve is easier on the arm because it's released with the same arm action as a fast ball. This saves wear on the elbow and shoulder area. A pitch that has a change of speed and a different look is all a kid needs to keep batters on their heels at a young age. [/quote] Really if a curve ball or true slider as you call it are any more hard on the arm then you are throwing it incorrectly.  And a Knucklecurve? is that an oxymoron?

age will vary from kid to kid.  Learning the curveball is not the issue, throwing it during competition is.  Fatigue during the game and unneeded stress on the arm will be what leads to arm issues, not the pitch itself.  When the kid is mature enough to take a serious approach to learning the craft is a good time to start learning different hand positions for different pitches.  I would advise anyone young pitcher wanting to learn different pitches to first learn to [u]command[/u] the straight ball then start with a change-up, and then move on from there. 

[quote name="ImWatchingYou" post="1386328" timestamp="1363622883"] Your very right,. It shouldn't have been anywhere near close at all. Sloppy defense, cause the coach does NOT have the Best 9 on the field, he is leaving talent on the bench to play weak freshman players that shouldn't be on the field. [/quote] ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME  :'( :'( :'( :'( :'(

[quote name="kf89" post="1343192" timestamp="1353988295"] the constant obvious brown nosing is from keith stone with nations guys nutz so far down your throat your nose is about 2 inches deep in the brown.keep on smacking your lips trying to start s**t behind  your weak azz computer name thinking you are the smartest/coolest guy on setx youth baseball forum.ive had teams since 2000 when it was only usssa & played both when nations came along.ive had my issues with both,but that want stop me from playing both even when dealing with douch bags like keith stone.Mike Hiltz-usssa & nations baseball loving coach. [/quote] The prime example of people who i would [b]NOT[/b] want leading young men. 

[quote name="EAGLE07" post="1324326" timestamp="1352471991"] [b]I am looking for high school pitchers that are juniors. Prefer 85 + velo, able to keep the ball down and throw strikes. Mostly get people out. "Bulldog" attitude on the mound.[/b]Also, I have a question about LCM baseball. If anyone can help out, would appreciate a pm. Thanks. Kevin S. Thamm [/quote] Isn't everyone? ;D ;)

Pretty sure Augie and the horns do the same type of practice/game.  He described it in his book,  awsome read btw

get there early, this one could be over in less than an hour 8) buna by 13

[quote name="LOKI" post="1316085" timestamp="1351788054"] Silsbee will score at least [s]21[/s][/quote]  wrong answer, please review your notes and make corrections where needed  ;D

[quote name="AggiesAreWe" post="1306917" timestamp="1350918042"] [quote author=BADSANTA link=topic=105018.msg1306854#msg1306854 date=1350913278] What ever happened to the kid from HF who was trucking all the Silsbee kids on YouTube. Thi k it was a junior high game. He looked liked he could be a force for HF. Has he graduated? [/quote] I believe you are speaking of Kendrick King. He is a freshmen this year, playing on varsity. Silsbee will see him Friday night but I doubt he will "truck" anyone that night. This ain't Jr. High ball. ::) [/quote] true, very few freshmen "truck" juniors and seniors.  Give the young man a year or two ;)

[quote name="jag86" post="1269360" timestamp="1347565291"] I knew someone would take it the wrong way but since you went there lets go!! I never said a bad thing about the STJFL first of all and yes everyone has a mercy rule except some AAU Leagues. Every team has kids at the pee wee level that really dont want to be there so lets just keep it real. letting someone else play is not the problem, the problem is that same coach that you had mercy for now is trying to run over the kid that really dont want to be there. why didnt he do that before he was 28 down!! people like you want good teams/players in other leagues so you can get on and  bragg about something lil Johnny did!! its all for the kids so you say but when PNG G was putting 50 on people last year it was ok! Than you get personal, I can promise you my kid will compete with yours in anything from manners to the classroom and thats the way i raised him. Sports is just something we like its not our life and thats the way I raise him, anything else!! Be ready to explain to him why he didnt get that job he interviewed for when he gets the "we went in another direction" let him know its always about competing whether you believe it or not. Your right i have a hard time explaining to mine that being a loser is ok, that may be the difference between yours and mine!!! I just threw the OBAMA stuff in there because its all fun and games to me!! Well just for kicks and giggles i will start the twos and finished with the ones!! [/quote] I thought the idea of youth sports was to teach the kids basics and how to play the game competetive, fair, and learn to respect all opponents?  Shouldn't there be an emphasis on developing all players instead of just the 8 year old "studs" ?  Some youths today have lost the fine art of being humble in their abilities and accomplishments, maybe that should become a focus as well? JMO

what about the north end of the lake?  anyone catching any good fish?

Congrats Jeremy!

Seen Jasper play baseball, doesnt seem to be an issue with competing.  Check out the sign in left field

[quote name="DTH" post="1211392" timestamp="1334666622"] Way to Go Darrell and good luck!!  Need a baseball coach? [/quote] at Jasper?  im sure Coach Mixon will continue to serve his role there well.

postponed for 18 days?  :o surely they yard can be ready before then or maybe there are other reasons? :-X

Still remember him calling a homerun for an apponent,  "He just hit that thing to Passadena"  ;D

Congrats Coach Landry, a very well deserved honor.

has to have 4 pitches at 11 years old to be successful?  I've known guys that most would consider quite succesful make a living throwing primarily fastball change-up.  Change-up needs to be the first off speed learned.  I agree though 16 is a little late to start learning the wrinkle, but based on development 13-14 can start mixing in a curve or slider.

if you mean two years ago with Statum and Felts, then no.  They lost in the region finals i believe.  Wich is a far cry from failure.  So many things have to go right for a team to make it that far.  Of course being good doesnt hurt ;D

this really the best guy the Sox could find?

[quote name="football" post="1127989" timestamp="1322019040"] 3 D1 players!  Looks like BC should return to Austin for the first time since getting rid of BB!!! [/quote] Always easier said than done.  Best of luck to these 3 in the future and to them and their team this year.

this is a really crappy move for the stros and their fans. New ownership crumbled, not a very good start for the man. 

[quote name="drich3tx" post="1100071" timestamp="1320010878"] I'VE GOT 2 WATCH HF 8TH GRADE PLAY 4 YRS. THEY R A VERY GOOD FOOTBALL TEAM. AND WILL GET EVEN BETTER. BUT I HAVE TO AGREE WIT BLUEDOVE3 KENDRICK IS GLUE TO THA TEAM. AND AS FAR SAYN HF WILL B GOOD WITOUT KING THERE U MITE JUS GET YO CHANCE TO C HOW GOOD THEY WILL B WITOUT HIM. OZEN DOESNT HAVE TO RECRUIT HIM HIS BROTHA WAS 1 OF THA BEST RECEIVERS 2 COME OUT OZEN AND HIS 2 SISTER WAS AWESOME VOLLEYBALL PLAYERS 4 OZEN. SO IF HE DECIDES TO LEAVE ITS CUZ HIS KEEPN THA KING NAME WELL KNOWN AT OZEN. AND FROM EXPERIENCE I KNO EXACTLY HOW TRANSFERIN 4RM HF 2 OZEN WILL BENEFIT HIM MORE. SO DNT B SURPRISED IF U DNT C KING ON FIELD 4 HF NXT YR. [/quote] huh??

[quote name="Gasilla" post="1087072" timestamp="1318967011"] Woodson- WOS [/quote] 100% agree, scary he is only a junior