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[quote name="mytwocents" post="1233705" timestamp="1341277183"] This reminds me of a few years back when Mathews changed the Vidor offense to the slot t and he had several fans in uproar. Saying that they should let him go and what was he thinking and a lot of other things. Now look at him. Just took his team from 2-8 to 10-3 and won 4A coach of the year in DC magazine. ....just sayin' [/quote] Thanks for that comment '2cents...some people don't get it.  I'll bet Jeff will tell you a lot of his success depends not only on his offensive AND defensive strategy, but also the strengths of his players...the kids that have to go out each Friday night and turn you into a hero or a zero.

[quote name="Tigersvoice" post="1232571" timestamp="1340546368"] [quote author=raideroldtimer link=topic=97758.msg1232553#msg1232553 date=1340509026] [quote author=H-D BOBCAT 55 link=topic=97758.msg1232363#msg1232363 date=1340404864] Just wondering Lumberton's all-time record and if they have ever won district in football? [/quote] Don't know the all time record H-D, but as far as district, Lumberton one in a 3 way tie with PNG and Dayton. [/quote] And wasn't that the year that Lumberton beat LaMarque in the playoffs - a feat that very few schools in this area have achieved? [/quote] You should have seen the faces on the LaMarque coach's and player's faces...definitely not expected. It was priceless!

[quote name="EAGLE07" post="1231791" timestamp="1340224763"] I did it all but the golf..little college baseball instead of football. The pain I'm feeling in my left knee at the moment is a constant reminder that I played high school football. LOL ! [b]My laid back, pleasant personality and golf don't mix too well together[/b].  ;) [/quote] [b]AMEN![/b]

[quote name="EAGLE07" post="1231787" timestamp="1340224099"] [quote author=SmashMouth link=topic=100623.msg1231785#msg1231785 date=1340223894] [quote author=falconfanatic link=topic=100623.msg1231757#msg1231757 date=1340214146] [quote author=SmashMouth link=topic=100623.msg1231750#msg1231750 date=1340212995] [quote author=falconfanatic link=topic=100623.msg1231724#msg1231724 date=1340208045] [quote author=SmashMouth link=topic=100623.msg1231713#msg1231713 date=1340206506] [quote author=Dick Vitale link=topic=100623.msg1231709#msg1231709 date=1340206151] [quote author=EAGLE07 link=topic=100623.msg1231701#msg1231701 date=1340205236] [quote author=falconfanatic link=topic=100623.msg1231694#msg1231694 date=1340203696] [quote author=Dick Vitale link=topic=100623.msg1231670#msg1231670 date=1340198271] It is RIDICULOUS how MLB players take PED's and scuff the balls, and use pine tar, and all of this other mess in order to gain some sort of advantage...They are already fat and out of shape, why do you need to CHEAT as well?  :o [/quote] I don't know. Why do basketball players feel the need to jump in the stands and beat up fans? [/quote] and cover themselves from head to toe with tats.  :o [/quote] Yet another ignorant response.... ::)...There are 10 times MORE cheaters in baseball than NBA players covered "head to toe" in tattoos...Thats just dumb. ::) [/quote] Look DV, although I think you're WAAAYYYY off on your comments somewhat isolating baseball as the only sport where rampant cheating is involved, you have to be sensitive to FF's feelings...he is brainwashed into thinking so much cheating goes on in baseball because is one of the toughest sports to play...HA! They're ALL tough on a professional level! Are you insane?!?!?! [/quote] Duh they are all tough. However the single hardest thing to do in sports in to take a round stick and consistently hit a round ball hard. Baseball requires the most skill out of any of the major sports, while basketball and football require more athleticism. Oh and cheating in baseball has died down alot recently do to the toughest drug testing policy in any sport. Every player is randomly tested multiple times durring the season and baseball is the only sport where the players union is open to implementing blood tests. [/quote] If the only criteria for being difficult (or hard) is to taking a round stick and hitting a ball, then, by your definition, Golf must be nearly impossible!  Plus you actually have to make it in a itty bitty hole!  GET REAL! [/quote] Well a golf ball sits in one place and doesn't move. A baseball comes toward you at over 90 mph and you don't know what type of pitch is coming. Plus the sweet spot of a bat is about 3in wide "ARE YOU INSANE"? "GET REAL"! ::) ::) Just look at what it takes to be a successful player in each sport. In football if the QB completes 60% of his passes he is considered pretty good, if you shoot 45%(might be higher idk) or better you are considered a pretty good basketball player. [b]In baseball if you get a hit 30%  of the time and do it over a career you will be a hall of famer[/b]. Baseball is difficult because it requires more specialized skill than any  of the other major sports. It is not as physically demanding, but that is not what this conversation is about. [/quote] First off, let me say that I have no idea why we are going back and forth on this issue.  Neither of us are going to change our minds, and we both seem to like arguing a point to death!  That being said, here we go... there is no generally accepted measure of difficulty placed on any given sport, so your supposition that baseball is more difficult is completely subjective based on YOUR opinion.  Is it possible that baseball is more difficult than football? Perhaps...I just don't have facts and figures to back up that argument, so I choose not to make possible false statements.  For instance, to the average poster on this site, you may seem like a total moron; however, it would be wrong for me to categorize you as a moron, because maybe you're just putting on some kind of act...I don't know, so I choose to stay away from false statements. [/quote] or yet it could also be based on Falcon's personal experience at the high school and/or college level.  Just sayin  ;) Besides, me...I'm only here to argue with Dicki V and sound "ignorant".  :o :o :o :o [/quote] Lol! That's sounds like a pretty good reason. I've got the ignorant part down pretty well.  FYI, I played high school football, baseball, golf and track, played college football and have coached (kid level) basketball, tee ball, base ball, flag football & tackle football.  I don't think any of that makes me an expert on the subject...just sayin'.  Like I said...back up words with facts.

[quote name="BellBiz30" post="1231784" timestamp="1340223683"] I couldnt get your link to work buddy. [/quote] Neither could I...

[quote name="falconfanatic" post="1231757" timestamp="1340214146"] [quote author=SmashMouth link=topic=100623.msg1231750#msg1231750 date=1340212995] [quote author=falconfanatic link=topic=100623.msg1231724#msg1231724 date=1340208045] [quote author=SmashMouth link=topic=100623.msg1231713#msg1231713 date=1340206506] [quote author=Dick Vitale link=topic=100623.msg1231709#msg1231709 date=1340206151] [quote author=EAGLE07 link=topic=100623.msg1231701#msg1231701 date=1340205236] [quote author=falconfanatic link=topic=100623.msg1231694#msg1231694 date=1340203696] [quote author=Dick Vitale link=topic=100623.msg1231670#msg1231670 date=1340198271] It is RIDICULOUS how MLB players take PED's and scuff the balls, and use pine tar, and all of this other mess in order to gain some sort of advantage...They are already fat and out of shape, why do you need to CHEAT as well?  :o [/quote] I don't know. Why do basketball players feel the need to jump in the stands and beat up fans? [/quote] and cover themselves from head to toe with tats.  :o [/quote] Yet another ignorant response.... ::)...There are 10 times MORE cheaters in baseball than NBA players covered "head to toe" in tattoos...Thats just dumb. ::) [/quote] Look DV, although I think you're WAAAYYYY off on your comments somewhat isolating baseball as the only sport where rampant cheating is involved, you have to be sensitive to FF's feelings...he is brainwashed into thinking so much cheating goes on in baseball because is one of the toughest sports to play...HA! They're ALL tough on a professional level! Are you insane?!?!?! [/quote] Duh they are all tough. However the single hardest thing to do in sports in to take a round stick and consistently hit a round ball hard. Baseball requires the most skill out of any of the major sports, while basketball and football require more athleticism. Oh and cheating in baseball has died down alot recently do to the toughest drug testing policy in any sport. Every player is randomly tested multiple times durring the season and baseball is the only sport where the players union is open to implementing blood tests. [/quote] If the only criteria for being difficult (or hard) is to taking a round stick and hitting a ball, then, by your definition, Golf must be nearly impossible!  Plus you actually have to make it in a itty bitty hole!  GET REAL! [/quote] Well a golf ball sits in one place and doesn't move. A baseball comes toward you at over 90 mph and you don't know what type of pitch is coming. Plus the sweet spot of a bat is about 3in wide "ARE YOU INSANE"? "GET REAL"! ::) ::) Just look at what it takes to be a successful player in each sport. In football if the QB completes 60% of his passes he is considered pretty good, if you shoot 45%(might be higher idk) or better you are considered a pretty good basketball player. [b]In baseball if you get a hit 30%  of the time and do it over a career you will be a hall of famer[/b]. Baseball is difficult because it requires more specialized skill than any  of the other major sports. It is not as physically demanding, but that is not what this conversation is about. [/quote] First off, let me say that I have no idea why we are going back and forth on this issue.  Neither of us are going to change our minds, and we both seem to like arguing a point to death!  That being said, here we go... there is no generally accepted measure of difficulty placed on any given sport, so your supposition that baseball is more difficult is completely subjective based on YOUR opinion.  Is it possible that baseball is more difficult than football? Perhaps...I just don't have facts and figures to back up that argument, so I choose not to make possible false statements.  For instance, to the average poster on this site, you may seem like a total moron; however, it would be wrong for me to categorize you as a moron, because maybe you're just putting on some kind of act...I don't know, so I choose to stay away from false statements.

[quote name="falconfanatic" post="1231777" timestamp="1340222692"] [quote author=SmashMouth link=topic=100623.msg1231774#msg1231774 date=1340221270] [quote author=EAGLE07 link=topic=100623.msg1231758#msg1231758 date=1340215224] Man, I gotta say...."Falcon is on it ."  ;) [/quote] On something, anyway... [/quote] Good comeback ::) [/quote] Tried to keep it simple for ya'...figured that works best...

[quote name="EAGLE07" post="1231758" timestamp="1340215224"] Man, I gotta say...."Falcon is on it ."  ;) [/quote] On something, anyway...

[quote name="falconfanatic" post="1231724" timestamp="1340208045"] [quote author=SmashMouth link=topic=100623.msg1231713#msg1231713 date=1340206506] [quote author=Dick Vitale link=topic=100623.msg1231709#msg1231709 date=1340206151] [quote author=EAGLE07 link=topic=100623.msg1231701#msg1231701 date=1340205236] [quote author=falconfanatic link=topic=100623.msg1231694#msg1231694 date=1340203696] [quote author=Dick Vitale link=topic=100623.msg1231670#msg1231670 date=1340198271] It is RIDICULOUS how MLB players take PED's and scuff the balls, and use pine tar, and all of this other mess in order to gain some sort of advantage...They are already fat and out of shape, why do you need to CHEAT as well?  :o [/quote] I don't know. Why do basketball players feel the need to jump in the stands and beat up fans? [/quote] and cover themselves from head to toe with tats.  :o [/quote] Yet another ignorant response.... ::)...There are 10 times MORE cheaters in baseball than NBA players covered "head to toe" in tattoos...Thats just dumb. ::) [/quote] Look DV, although I think you're WAAAYYYY off on your comments somewhat isolating baseball as the only sport where rampant cheating is involved, you have to be sensitive to FF's feelings...he is brainwashed into thinking so much cheating goes on in baseball because is one of the toughest sports to play...HA! They're ALL tough on a professional level! Are you insane?!?!?! [/quote] Duh they are all tough. However the single hardest thing to do in sports in to take a round stick and consistently hit a round ball hard. Baseball requires the most skill out of any of the major sports, while basketball and football require more athleticism. Oh and cheating in baseball has died down alot recently do to the toughest drug testing policy in any sport. Every player is randomly tested multiple times durring the season and baseball is the only sport where the players union is open to implementing blood tests. [/quote] If the only criteria for being difficult (or hard) is to taking a round stick and hitting a ball, then, by your definition, Golf must be nearly impossible!  Plus you actually have to make it in a itty bitty hole!  GET REAL!

[quote name="Dick Vitale" post="1231709" timestamp="1340206151"] [quote author=EAGLE07 link=topic=100623.msg1231701#msg1231701 date=1340205236] [quote author=falconfanatic link=topic=100623.msg1231694#msg1231694 date=1340203696] [quote author=Dick Vitale link=topic=100623.msg1231670#msg1231670 date=1340198271] It is RIDICULOUS how MLB players take PED's and scuff the balls, and use pine tar, and all of this other mess in order to gain some sort of advantage...They are already fat and out of shape, why do you need to CHEAT as well?  :o [/quote] I don't know. Why do basketball players feel the need to jump in the stands and beat up fans? [/quote] and cover themselves from head to toe with tats.  :o [/quote] Yet another ignorant response.... ::)...There are 10 times MORE cheaters in baseball than NBA players covered "head to toe" in tattoos...Thats just dumb. ::) [/quote] Look DV, although I think you're WAAAYYYY off on your comments somewhat isolating baseball as the only sport where rampant cheating is involved, you have to be sensitive to FF's feelings...he is brainwashed into thinking so much cheating goes on in baseball because is one of the toughest sports to play...HA! They're ALL tough on a professional level! Are you insane?!?!?! 

[quote name="LR33" post="1231708" timestamp="1340206097"] [quote author=Gucci link=topic=99607.msg1231300#msg1231300 date=1340056751] [quote author=LR33 link=topic=99607.msg1231208#msg1231208 date=1340037372] [quote author=DawgsOfGold link=topic=99607.msg1230396#msg1230396 date=1339599886] Bmt G highlights vs Lum W [Hidden Content] [/quote] Great HighLights!!! :) :) :) You just forgot to show the scoreboard at the END!!! :o :o :o Let me remind you: ;D ;D ;D Lumberton 24 Beaumont 18 [/quote]You should also be reminded that those kids were young and most are coming back. Will you please be the 1st to post Bmt G scores against any Lum pw team this upcoming season. I think they will beat you guys by as many as they want. [/quote] DawgOfGold and Smash, That was a great game to be part of!!! Those boys are going to do MAKE some NOISE in the future. And Im proud to say that I got to be on the field with them. Good Luck this year. [b][size=14pt]And for u Gucci, you just sit back and keep drinking that WHINEY  :'( :'( :'( out of your sippy cup!!!  :-* :-* :-*[/size][/b][/quote] Exactly!  That was a great game to see.

[quote name="Gucci" post="1231300" timestamp="1340056751"] [quote author=LR33 link=topic=99607.msg1231208#msg1231208 date=1340037372] [quote author=DawgsOfGold link=topic=99607.msg1230396#msg1230396 date=1339599886] Bmt G highlights vs Lum W [Hidden Content] [/quote] Great HighLights!!! :) :) :) You just forgot to show the scoreboard at the END!!! :o :o :o Let me remind you: ;D ;D ;D Lumberton 24 Beaumont 18 [/quote]You should also be reminded that those kids were young and most are coming back. Will you please be the 1st to post Bmt G scores against any Lum pw team this upcoming season. I think they will beat you guys by as many as they want. [/quote] Well, LR33 will be moving up to Juniors this year, so he will be leaving PW as a champ!  BMT G Pee Wee will be awesome though!

[quote name="Dick Vitale" post="1231699" timestamp="1340204993"] [quote author=falconfanatic link=topic=100623.msg1231694#msg1231694 date=1340203696] [quote author=Dick Vitale link=topic=100623.msg1231670#msg1231670 date=1340198271] It is RIDICULOUS how MLB players take PED's and scuff the balls, and use pine tar, and all of this other mess in order to gain some sort of advantage...They are already fat and out of shape, why do you need to CHEAT as well?  :o [/quote] I don't know. Why do basketball players feel the need to jump in the stands and beat up fans? [/quote] Isolated incident EIGHT years ago...That was a dumb comparison....Baseball players cheat yearly...Heck, from the looks of it, DAILY! I just asked why? [/quote] Dude...I know you're just stirring the pot, but like I said...there is rampant cheating in most ALL organized sports...especially the big 3!

[quote name="mat" post="1231681" timestamp="1340200794"] I wasn't sure where to post this but since the two highest paid were boxers I figured this was as good as any. There are some suprises on the list. It's pretty obvious that they are all over paid but but probably none more so than Carlos Lee. :o [Hidden Content] Your thoughts on any of them? [/quote] Honestly Mat, I don't think any of them are over-paid.  A quote from speaker and Sales Wizrd Zig Ziegler, "It's not what you deserve, it's what you negotiate...".  That's the beauty of capitalism (not trying to change this to a "Political Viewpoints" discussion)...

[quote name="Dick Vitale" post="1231670" timestamp="1340198271"] It is RIDICULOUS how MLB players take PED's and scuff the balls, and use pine tar, and all of this other mess in order to gain some sort of advantage...They are already fat and out of shape, why do you need to CHEAT as well?  :o [/quote] Honestly you could make that same claim for almost any organized sport...Performance enhancing drugs are found in Cycling, Football, Baseball, etc.  Ask the Saints about the need to tip the scales by offering "hit money" to put opposing players out of the game.  Ask Bellichek (sp?) from New England about spying on other teams.  To be clear, I am a Football Freak...but I can't pin unfair advantage tactics solely on baseball...

[quote name="AggiesAreWe" post="1231580" timestamp="1340151554"] The only way you can compare sports attendance that has a large discrepancy of the amount of games played is by looking at average attendance, not total. Anyone with any kind of sense should know that and not make comparisons otherwise. Yes it is a fact that the total MLB attendance is larger than NFL attendance but any nimrod should know that by the larger amount of games played. It's not a fair comparison which are what some are arguing about. [/quote] Amen...and thank you.  That's what I've been trying to convey to Baseballfanatic...I mean Falconfanatic. It's ok FF...we like baseball too!  Just not as much as football.

[quote name="falconfanatic" post="1231260" timestamp="1340048491"] [quote author=WOSgrad link=topic=100538.msg1231259#msg1231259 date=1340047857] Okay, gentlemen.  I merely tried to put this thread up to signal that football had been moved back up as the top forum.  I did not intend for this to be a debate who watches what sport the most.  Basketball and baseball will get their turns at the top of the forum when their season is in swing. [/quote] I have no problem with it being at the top of the forum. Some people took some shots a baseball so I posted a simple statistic. Apparently some people can't handle it. [/quote] You posted a simple "misleading" statistic...but that's ok...

[quote name="Gucci" post="1231247" timestamp="1340044282"] I heard the Qb #11, and company are moving to Lumberton. Can't beat em, join em  ;D [/quote] We wish...those kids are phenomenal 3,9,11...

[quote name="badndn" post="1231244" timestamp="1340044020"] [quote author=DawgsOfGold link=topic=99607.msg1231241#msg1231241 date=1340042574] [quote author=LR33 link=topic=99607.msg1231208#msg1231208 date=1340037372] [quote author=DawgsOfGold link=topic=99607.msg1230396#msg1230396 date=1339599886] Bmt G highlights vs Lum W [Hidden Content] [/quote] Great HighLights!!! :) :) :) You just forgot to show the scoreboard at the END!!! :o :o :o Let me remind you: ;D ;D ;D Lumberton 24 Beaumont 18 [/quote] Believe me I have not forgotten and did you see the play that the ref called holding on us was really not holding and that touch down that was called back would have put yall away.  :o ;) ;D GREAT GAME THOUGH!!! [/quote] [b]Funny how it's never the Officials fault when you win![/b][/quote] So true!  I can say that both teams were really good!  It was a great game.

[quote name="falconfanatic" post="1231220" timestamp="1340039559"] [quote author=BLUEDOVE3 link=topic=100538.msg1231204#msg1231204 date=1340036737] [quote author=AggiesAreWe link=topic=100538.msg1231200#msg1231200 date=1340035216] Baseball has a higher total attendance over football only because MLB plays 162 games, NFL just 16. I do know this, more people attend high school football games than they do high school baseball games. In fact, more attend high school basketball games than high school baseball in the state of Texas. [/quote]hMMM, I wonder why? [/quote] Because basketball is played in the AC and Baseball is played in the Texas' heat and humidity. [/quote] Look FF, while I appreciate your love of baseball, it's time to concede...baseball is just not as appealing as you might want it to be, and hair-brained figures and excuses won't change that...  Your reasons that in high school, basketball attendance beats baseball attendance is due to an A/C venue for B-Ball versus a baseball game's hot humid Texas conditions...Well, high school football attendance beats both, and it is played outside just like baseball...Baseball is a great sport, but it doesn't stack up against football, no matter how you slice it.  Sorry...

[quote name="falconfanatic" post="1231195" timestamp="1340034454"] [quote author=SmashMouth link=topic=100538.msg1231192#msg1231192 date=1340033743] [quote author=falconfanatic link=topic=100538.msg1231078#msg1231078 date=1339971527] [quote author=mytwocents link=topic=100538.msg1231054#msg1231054 date=1339959150] [quote author=falconfanatic link=topic=100538.msg1231037#msg1231037 date=1339951848] [quote author=24 over par link=topic=100538.msg1231020#msg1231020 date=1339946203] baseball=organized rest [/quote] Baseball = the most attended professional sport ;) [/quote] Most attended but not most viewed. [Hidden Content] Super bowl last year - 111.3 million viewers [Hidden Content] Game 7 of the World series last year - 25.4 million viewers. Nuff said.  8) [/quote] Exactly people are willing to pay and go see a baseball game, but not for football. They just sit on the couch  an watch thier team's 1 game per week ;D 8). Oh and if you add up the number of people that watch the 2,580 different baseball games and compare that to the number of people that watch the 256 football games I bet you baseball has more viewers. [b]Also if the World Series  averaged 20 million viewers per game that would make 140 million for the whole event.[/b] Which is about 30 million more than the Super Bowl. [/quote] You must be a liberal, using numbers to suit your arguement...Do you honestly think that each of the 7 games of the World Series were watched by completely different viewers? That's the only way you would get to your misleading 140 million viewers statistic.  More likely, you probably had 20 to 30 million of the same viewers watching the "Series".  Work the numbers all you want, Football is "King" in Southeast Texas! [/quote] Does it matter if it was different people? No matter how you look at it there were more sets of eyes watching the WS than watching the SB. BTW the way I nevet claimed the Baseball was more popular than football. I just said that baseball had a higher total attendance and a higher total viewership. [/quote] Simply because there are more games played...Turn the Superbowl into a 7 game series and answer the viewership question again.  Once again, very misleading.  FF, you're comparing apples to oranges... The truth of the matter is that football has both a higher total "per event" attendance AND viewership...and yes, you are right FF, football is more popular too!

[quote name="falconfanatic" post="1231078" timestamp="1339971527"] [quote author=mytwocents link=topic=100538.msg1231054#msg1231054 date=1339959150] [quote author=falconfanatic link=topic=100538.msg1231037#msg1231037 date=1339951848] [quote author=24 over par link=topic=100538.msg1231020#msg1231020 date=1339946203] baseball=organized rest [/quote] Baseball = the most attended professional sport ;) [/quote] Most attended but not most viewed. [Hidden Content] Super bowl last year - 111.3 million viewers [Hidden Content] Game 7 of the World series last year - 25.4 million viewers. Nuff said.  8) [/quote] Exactly people are willing to pay and go see a baseball game, but not for football. They just sit on the couch  an watch thier team's 1 game per week ;D 8). Oh and if you add up the number of people that watch the 2,580 different baseball games and compare that to the number of people that watch the 256 football games I bet you baseball has more viewers. [b]Also if the World Series  averaged 20 million viewers per game that would make 140 million for the whole event.[/b] Which is about 30 million more than the Super Bowl. [/quote] You must be a liberal, using numbers to suit your arguement...Do you honestly think that each of the 7 games of the World Series were watched by completely different viewers? That's the only way you would get to your misleading 140 million viewers statistic.  More likely, you probably had 20 to 30 million of the same viewers watching the "Series".  Work the numbers all you want, Football is "King" in Southeast Texas!

[quote name="bigtexn" post="1230765" timestamp="1339780920"] Alright guys, let's get it started  ;D [/quote] We gotta pick our teams in the draft, first, before we can start talking too much smack...that being said, beware Lumberton!

[quote name="Big Ford" post="1228500" timestamp="1338855594"] I bought a Triton as well and am needing to get rid of the 15 ft fiberglass 96 Cajun with 88 Johnson.  It is pictured on southeasttexas.com but will make a way better deal then what I'm asking for on there for any poster interested. [/quote] Send me a private message about your boat...I'm looking for a good deal of a boat for my 9yr old son and I to fish out of... THANKS!

[quote name="Gabe" post="1230641" timestamp="1339706513"] i'm baseball buddy. America's Pastime. The greatest game on Earth. [/quote] Never heard of it...explain this, "baseball", as you call it... Come on Friday Night Lights!