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[quote name="WeedBegone" post="821072" timestamp="1280256501"] Any smart HS coach understands that atheletes that participate in summer sports has tremendous benefits for his HS program.  I often see HS coaches at the area tournaments and they support their players in addition to gaining an abundance of information just by observing.   What you dont see very often is HS coaches coaching from the stands and getting involved directly with the players which while being a common courtesy, it also is frowned upon by UIL.  On the other hand, it should also be the same common courtesy for Select coaches to refrain from coaching outside the dug out at a HS game.   Also, the same should apply in situations when it is not the same sport.  As long as atheletes are staying in shape, multi seasons and or multi sports should be acceptable. [/quote] I like this post. Good one Weed.

[quote name="Mc" post="821193" timestamp="1280269215"] Go eat some catfish at the Pine Tree Lodge. [/quote] YES!!! Throw back some cold ones too! ;D

Some of them can come to my house in Silsbee and do some yard work.

What happened to just having fun in youth sports? ::)

I see that the original thread has been deleted by the author of the thread.

[quote name="WeedBegone" post="821168" timestamp="1280267233"] [quote author=Mc link=topic=71234.msg821158#msg821158 date=1280266814] [quote author=AggiesAreWe link=topic=71234.msg821152#msg821152 date=1280266425] Why was the other thread deleted? [/quote]He felt it had that "not so fresh feeling." [/quote] Sometimes we tend to self moderate which was done in this case.  Its kind of like Otis on Mayberry----when he had his filll---he locked himself up and slept it off.  In this case our friend from young guns just chose to go to another bar.  But then again---so did we all. [/quote] LOL!! I got it. Thanks Weed.

[quote name="Mc" post="821158" timestamp="1280266814"] [quote author=AggiesAreWe link=topic=71234.msg821152#msg821152 date=1280266425] Why was the other thread deleted? [/quote]He felt it had that "not so fresh feeling." [/quote] Who is "he"?

Why was the other thread deleted?

[quote name="WOSgrad" post="821016" timestamp="1280249133"] There are only eight of them:  Plano East (6171), Plano (5270), Allen (5029), Dallas Skyline (4765), North Shore (4416), Plano West (4190), Alief Hastings (4156) and Alief Elsik (4084). Allen, Plano, Plano East and Plano West are all in District 8-5A (currently), Hastings and Elsik are in 18-5A. [/quote] I was close. I knew that the Plano schools were 2 of them and the Alief schools were the other two.

[quote name="Matthew328" post="821008" timestamp="1280248183"] 4000-2200 is less than the minimum desired ratio of 2:1....there's very few schools w/enrollments of over 4000 (less than 10 I think) so it does reduce the enrollment disparity somewhat.... [/quote] I agree. If I remember correctly, 4 of those 10 teams are in 2 districts.

[quote name="Matthew328" post="820978" timestamp="1280245461"] Yeah I had to adjust by 2 schools and that put Dayton in 5A..#'s may move by 2-3 schools as I work through each class [/quote] Appreciate the work. Keep it coming, very interesting to say the least. Curious to see how you district our local 3A's.

[quote name="Matthew328" post="820970" timestamp="1280244522"] [Hidden Content] Here's 5A [/quote] Now you have 5A starting at 1422 and not 1435. That would include Dayton in 5A now. PNG and Vidor would still remain 4A.

[quote name="Chill." post="820860" timestamp="1280204102"] Show up for 2 a days like the AD says or don't play, pretty simple...My kid plays softball too, but she'll be there come August 2nd and why is that, her coach worked everything out around their schedule so they could do both....Small minded thinking/policy, really....I personally think when you start a high school sport you give it your all, missing because you have a select game or tournament is not a good excuse....I would like to see the girls stay and play volleyball, but from what i have already read on the other thread they have known since May... I know Aggie finds this hard to believe, but i think it's going to be an exciting year of 3A volleyball and I'd hate for my kid to miss it...Good luck in their decision... [/quote] I agree with this post. But I am still not sure that a student missing a couple of 2 a day practices due to them playing another sport warrents a banishment from them playing the entire season. Seems something could be worked out. Orangefield and schools like them need all the participation it can get. I do agree that a line has to be drawn somewhere.

[quote name="bleed orange" post="820916" timestamp="1280239252"] [quote author=Otter link=topic=71217.msg820803#msg820803 date=1280194682] I saw one quote on the Softball forum that said "High School Sports come first. "  It is this small minded thinking that led to the explosion of select sports.  On every high school athletic team, you will find widely varying levels of commitment by the players to improve their abilities.  This limits the ability of those most committed to improve and achieve.  In select sports, most members on the team are aligned with each other in what they want to achieve personally and as a team.  High School Athletic Staffs should be thankful for the level of athlete that results from select sports and should do what they can to support them.  I believe that missing high school games for select sports is wrong.  But to quote Alan Iverson, "We talkin bout practice".  It is ashamed that High School Staffs think they are the center of the universe, when in fact, it is select sports that advance most high school athlete's collegiate aspirations.  Should the girls have to make up the practices/run laps? Of course.  Should they be banned from the team?  Absolutely not.  Should a family have to move to another school district because of this small minded policy?  No way.  I hope that some sanity comes to the decision makers in Orangefield. [/quote] What led the explosion of select teams was not high school athletics, it was the youth leagues. Some one said on the other thread that high school kids should not play high school ball and play just select.In other words to prove a point to the high school coaches. Talk about small minded thinking. That kind of thinking could destroy high school sports and if that happens, what happens to the kids that are not chosen to play select ball. Again I think select ball is a good thing but not at the expense of another sport. [/quote] Good post bleed. Some of these kids can't afford the costs of playing select or AAU. High school sports is all they have.

[quote name="Otter" post="820803" timestamp="1280194682"] I saw one quote on the Softball forum that said "High School Sports come first. "  It is this small minded thinking that led to the explosion of select sports.  On every high school athletic team, you will find widely varying levels of commitment by the players to improve their abilities.  This limits the ability of those most committed to improve and achieve.  In select sports, most members on the team are aligned with each other in what they want to achieve personally and as a team.  High School Athletic Staffs should be thankful for the level of athlete that results from select sports and should do what they can to support them.  I believe that missing high school games for select sports is wrong.  But to quote Alan Iverson, "We talkin bout practice".  It is ashamed that High School Staffs think they are the center of the universe, when in fact, it is select sports that advance most high school athlete's collegiate aspirations.  Should the girls have to make up the practices/run laps? Of course.  Should they be banned from the team?  Absolutely not.  Should a family have to move to another school district because of this small minded policy?  No way.  I hope that some sanity comes to the decision makers in Orangefield. [/quote] Good post.

[quote name="rschuldt" post="820768" timestamp="1280189334"] In the playoffs, everyone from 1A-5A is D1 and D2 in football. [/quote] I think the poster was asking when will 3A divide districts into DI and DII like 2A and 1A have done.

This is being discussed in the softball forum: [Hidden Content] What's the volleyball side say?

Lumberton getting a new scoreboard is long overdue. Last season the only thing that worked on that scoreboard was the score and time. Quarter, timeouts, down, yards to go, and yardline did not work. Actually, the booster club tried to buy a new scoreboard a few years ago but was shot down by the administration.

[quote name="SgtRey" post="820591" timestamp="1280161277"] They forgot the THREE WAY MATCH BETWEEN :  OZENS FINEST VS SOULJA VS SGT REY FOR THE BEAUMONT BOWL HEAVY WEIGHT TITLE...STEEL CAGE...NO DISQUALIFICATION....LADDER MATCH... [/quote] A step ladder at best. ::) ;D BTW, did Mark win his match? I mean you can't let the hometown guy lose when he is here.

[quote name="scooter!" post="820613" timestamp="1280165050"] Memorial got that many students? [/quote] Memorial current enrollment number is 2460. In either one of these mock alignments, PAM would go to 6A.

[quote name="WOSgrad" post="820599" timestamp="1280162135"] Using Matt's numbers, here is what the 3A districts COULD (not will, not should, BUT could...all of this is speculation folks!) turn out: In one district: Bullard, Center, Diboll, Huntington, Lufkin Hudson, Rusk, Pollok Central In another:  Buna, Bridge City, Hardin-Jefferson, Kountze, Orangefield, Warren, West Orange-Stark, Woodville In another:  Anahuac, Coldspring, East Chambers, Hamshire-Fannett, Hardin, Liberty, Shepherd, Tarkington [/quote] That's a fair attempt at it. The first district is pretty easy to figure. In the other two, Coldspring is kind of the odd man out, like Livingston is now in our local 4A district. Coldspring is much closer to Warren and Woodville than they are with Anahuac, East Chambers and Hamshire-Fannett. Other than an occassional BC team, WOS would completely dominate this district. BTW Grad, you left out Kirbyville. ;)

[quote name="Domination Station" post="820589" timestamp="1280161061"] The following cutoff numbers were in Saturday's Bmt Enterprise: 6A - 2215 and up 5A - 1398 - 2214 4A - 604 - 1397 3A - 287.5 - 603 2A - 147 - 287.4 1A - 146 and under [/quote] That's not official numbers, just their estimate like Matt's numbers are just a mock estimate. Under the Enterprise's numbers, yes PNG and Vidor would move to 5A, but using Matt's numbers (which I used in my post) PNG and Vidor would stay 4A.

[quote name="Domination Station" post="820583" timestamp="1280160401"] Aggie: I think PNG and Vidor go to 5A. [/quote] Nope. Using these numbers that Matt has for the mock 6A realignment, 5A would be 1435-2254. PNG and Vidor have 1404 and 1416 in this past realignment. They would stay in 4A with these numbers.

[quote name="KFDM COOP" post="820203" timestamp="1279996323"] [quote author=WOSgrad link=topic=71184.msg820189#msg820189 date=1279990154] [quote author=WO-S 89 link=topic=71184.msg820179#msg820179 date=1279988010] [quote author=skipper link=topic=71184.msg820177#msg820177 date=1279986605] who is going to come out with the win on this one.will this be the first time west orange has played friendswood [/quote] We palyed them in 2000 playoffs and beat them in Conroe. [/quote] Correct on the year, but the venue was Pasadena.  Froze my rear end off that day! [/quote] Windy and Cold! WO-S by 1. [/quote] I took this post meaning that WOS beat Friendswood by 1 back in 2000 in Pasadena on a COLD and WINDY day, not a prediction for this year's game. ::) How about being more clear next time and not quote a post that's talking about a past game?

[quote name="Matthew328" post="820514" timestamp="1280112696"] I just finished my mock alignment...here's my cut offs [b]Class 6A 2255-Up 202 schools Class 5A 1422-2254 199 schools Class 4A 715-1434 173 schools Class 3A 345-714 163 schools Class 2A Div. 1 261-344 85  schools Class 2A Div. 2 195-260 87  schools Class A Div. 1 149-194 77  schools Class A Div. 2 100-148.5 79 schools[/b] Mind you I included the 17 new football playing schools for 2012 realignment as well to make it a more realistic projection of what we'll see in 2012.  Division 1/Division 2 will stay...you can't take 4 teams to the playoffs and have just one Division.....season would go past Christmas...I believe this will happen in 2012...also look for an interesting first round twist w/the district champions... [/quote] Using Matt's numbers (which look to be pretty realistic) this is what classifications our local teams would fall under. (this is not what districts they would play in, just their classification) 6A Baytown Sterling West Brook Channelview North Shore La porte PA Memorial 5A Baytown Lee Crosby Dayton Galena Park GC Memorial CE King North Forest Bmt. Central Nederland 4A Barbers Hill Bmt. Ozen LCM Livingston Lumberton PNG Vidor Jasper Silsbee Cleveland Huffman Splendora 3A Center Diboll Huntington Kirbyville Bridge City Hamshire-Fannett Hardin-Jefferson Orangefield WOS Coldspring Liberty Shepherd Tarkington Anahuac Buna East Chambers Hardin Kountze Warren Woodville 2A DI Newton Corrigan-Camden Hemphill New Waverly 2A DII Deweyville Groveton San Augustine 1A DI Colmesneil Hull-Daisetta Lovelady West Hardin West Sabine 1A DII Burkeville Evadale High Island Sabine Pass After looking at this mock alignment, it is obvious that locally, 2A got robbed by 3A. There would be 20 3A teams as compared to only 7 2A teams, with those seven being divided by division. It would be very difficult to district locally our 3A and 2A schools. 6A and 5A locally is easy to figure district wise as each would have a complete district. 4A would split in two local districts with BH, Dayton, Livingston, Cleveland, Huffman and Splendora in one district and Ozen, LCM, Lumberton, PNG, Vidor, Jasper and Silsbee in the other district. I wouldn't even pretend to try and figure out how the 3A-1A districts locally would fall. Someone else can give it a try. ;D