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This is a bit of a surprise for me.  Sigler left a very loaded Clarksville team.  Clarksville will be preseason top 2 or 3 in TABC and the odds on favorite to go to Austin.  They shouldve been in Austin this past year, had it not been for the huge shocker Tenaha pulled off in the regional finals.  I watched the game and was very impressed with Clarksville, who has 3A/4A athletes like the Cayuga teams of recent years.  Silsbee is a great job no doubt, I just wonder why he left such a good situation in the first place... 

Patrick Moore for Dodd City makes all state as a junior.  He was the best player on the #4 team in state in Dodd City that went undefeated in the regular season.  I saw him play once and he was pretty legit.  Yet he's not good enough to make it this year.  Although there is a player on this list whos team didnt even make the playoffs.  Can anyone take a wild guess at who the 1A-II region 3 all state coordinator was??

Burkeville will have to contend with Michael Anderson for Laneville, who is one of the best players in the region and will probably be all state.  I saw him play against a very good #13 Saltillo team this year and he put up around 25 pts and they had no answer for him.  Laneville is very athletic for a 1A-II team and pressures the ball a lot.  It wouldnt shock me if Laneville somehow won the region, if there was a team to beat Dodd City it would be someone like Laneville.

[quote name="The Spy" post="969404" timestamp="1298265475"] Yea but half of Martinsvilles games are vs teams like Gary, apple springs and centerville, Burkeville came out of the toughest district in the region, and IMO idt Martinsville is any better than leggett or spurger or even goodrich. So Bkv has the edge in this one [/quote] I'm failing to understand the argument here.  How can you criticize Martinsville's predistrict schedule, when outside of Silsbee, the 2 best teams Burkeville played before district were in Martinsville's district.  Burkeville lost to Kennard and # 9 Wells, and they lost to #9 Wells by 30 pts (74-45).  Kennard was the 4th place team in Martinsville's district.  Burkeville also lost to Broaddus who Wells beat by 30 pts.  Did I mention that Martinsville beat Wells once in district?  Kennard took Wells to overtime and Chireno, the 3rd place team in Martinsville's district, beat Martinsville on feb 15.  With 2 top 10 ranked teams, I think you could make the argument that 23-1A-II is just as good as 24-1A-II.  18-1A-II may have been the toughest district of all of them though with #4 Dodd City, Roxton, and Miller Grove (plus Ector who MG had to beat in a playoff).  I would not call Martinsville's schedule weak either.  They beat Tenaha (who just beat 3A Center) who won 22-1A-I and has be ranked and could be in the regional tournament.  They played Tenaha (22-1A-I), Woden (22-2A), Gary(22-1A-I), Elysian Fields (20-2A), who are all playoff teams and only lost to Woden.  I would speculate Martinsville is pretty close one way or another to the top 4 in 24-1A-II but I dont know how you could give Burkeville the edge by any measurement or standard given.

[Hidden Content] I started doing projections for the playoffs just to see what it looked like.  I based it on current standings now plus tiebreakers, schedule, some guessing and gut feeling.  I realize that some of this information may change in the next couple weeks since some districts have only played oone round of district play.  I may update in a week or 2 if or when some of the standings change.  Some of the district information was kinda hard to find, so if you have some information to add on a district for these brackets, send me a PM.  I couldnt find much on districts 17 and 20 in 1A-II, so if you have any info on that let me know.

[quote name="Mustangs Basketball" post="945377" timestamp="1294674365"] I think Burkeville Should be in the top 25 [/quote] Up until their big win over Leggett, Burkeville really didnt have any big wins over any other notable teams that would get them recognition.  They lost to Silsbee by 50, they lost to 1A-II Wells by 30, they lost to unranked 1A Broaddus by 30 and lost to unranked 1A-II Kennard.  I just dont think that resume is good enough to warrant a ranking.

[quote name="nuthinbutnet" post="928691" timestamp="1291823091"] Being in the stands, yes this was an upset. [b]When ever a #22 beats a #5 team, it is an upset[/b]. Spurger and WS were very competitive throughout the first half. If I recall it right, the spread never got above 3 or 4 points. From the beginning of the 3rd qtr, Spurger just did not stay in the game that played in the first half. Severalof us commented that Spurger offense was very high and could not get WS to get away from their post. Spurger would not take an outside shot and would attempt to pass into the post to where it would get stolen. WS played very well and consistent. The point spread drifted up to 10 and then Spurger went into "force it" mode where WS took advantange of the turnovers. Spurger played a very odd game for them. They just did not look "together" and did not gel at all. Hats off to WS, they played very well. [/quote] Spurger is #5 in 1A-II and West Sabine was #22 in 1A-I, which is a higher classification so I wouldnt call this an upset.   Spurger is ranked high because of their run to the state tournament last year and then dropping down classifications.  There are other teams in the region though I would say deserve to be ranked ahead of them based on their early season resume, like Dodd City and Laneville.  Rankings dont many very much especially this early in the season, but I would expect to see Spurger to drop a little over the next couple weeks.  Their region is very tough and will be hard to win (and their district too) so it should be pretty interesting to see how it plays out.

Nov 22 Big Sandy 51, Corrigan Camden 50 Bland 33, Whitewright 25 Blooming Grove 42, Riesel 35 Broaddus 64, Garrison 41 Brownsboro 50 Rains 25 Bullard 55, Winnsboro 53 Campbell 58, Sulphur Bluff 33 Carlisle 37, Douglass 25 Centerville 71, Latexo 27 Daingerfield 78, Clarksville 58 Dodd City 65, Bells 58 Gilmer 43, Union Grove 38 Goodrich 60, Coldspring 27 Greenville 38, Bonham 33 Groveton 43, San Augustine 42 John Tyler 63, Mount Vernon 57 Kaufman 60, Scurry Rosser 37 Kemp 45, Eustace 34 Lindale 60, Sulphur Springs 34 Lone Oak 50, Caddo Mills 49 Mabank 63, Hubbard 49 Madisonville 52, Bryan 50 Magnolia AR 64, Pleasant Grove 41 Marshall 61, Carthage 47 Mildred 34, Rice 31 Neches 69, Diboll 33 New Caney 72, Splendora 57 North Forney 40, Grand Saline 32 Ore City 47, Gladewater 34 Pine Tree 58, Texas High 33 Quinlan Ford 53, Bonham 23 Sabine 43, Kilgore 29 Saltillo 64, Chapel Hill 18 Slocum 45, Cayuga 35 Tenaha 37, Chireno 31 Trenton 41, Ector 33 White Oak 67, Hawkins 34 Willis 67, Cleveland 42 Zavalla 56, Wells 31 Nov 23 Apple Springs 41, Colmesneil 20 Bells 40, Bonham 28 Brownsboro 44 Canton 23 Cayuga 45, Oakwood 27 Centerville 60, Kennard 14 Central Heights 58, Slocum 40 Daingerfield 72, Pleasant Grove 46 Edgewood 50, Kemp 32 Honey Grove 52, Cumby 50 Hubbard 50, Rice 26 Jefferson 60, Atlanta 51 Linden Kildare 46, Mcleod 19 Livingston 48, Huntington 32 Lone Oak 48, Scurry Rosser 38 Lovelady 43, Elkhart 28 Mart 58, Buffalo 48 Martinsville 38, Douglass 35 Mildred 33, Palmer 31 Nacogdoches 51, Center 19 Neches 59, Westwood 36 New Caney 60, Huffman 32 Prairiland 53, Como Pickton 13 New Summerfield 48, West Rusk 36 Spring Hill 57, Diboll 46 Waskom 64, Karnack 42 Woden 52, Grapeland 42 Zavalla 64, Corrigan Camden 42

Saturday scores Wells Tournament 3rd place game Broaddus 47 Wells 46 Consolation Bland 47 Blue Ridge 28 Trenton Tournament 3rd place game Trenton 25 Ector 21 Slocum Tournament   Rusk 53, Trinity 36 Malakoff 42, Cushing 41  - Consolation final Frankston 57, Kennard 30 - 3rd place Woden 45, Slocum 39 - Championship game Saltillo Tournament Saltillo 62, Rivercrest 32 - Championship game North Hopkins 54, Como Pickton 47 - 3rd place Avery 40, Sulphur Bluff 28 - Consolation

Friday scores Slocum Tournament Winners bracket Slocum 72, Leggett 34 Woden 37, Frankston 27 Slocum 63, Frankston 31 Losers bracket Trinity 46, Laneville 38 Cushing def SFA (forfeit) Rusk 52, Leggett 46 Malakoff 56, Trinity 38 Slocum and Woden will play for championship, Frankston and Kennard will play for 3rd, and Cushing and Malakoff will play for consolation tomorrow. Wells Tournament Losers bracket Mt Enterprise 45 Apple Springs 38 Alto 41 Joaquin 24 Winners bracket Lapoynor 60 Broaddus 46 Brookeland 37 Wells 32 Campbell Tournament Cooper 30 Trenton 28 Campbell 40 Ector 27 New Summerfield Tournament Chireno 53 Elkhart 35 New Summerfield 54 Trinidad 26 Saltillo Tournament Sulphur Bluff 44, C.H.E.S.S. 29 Avery 38, Roxton 22 Rivercrest 53, North Hopkins 29 Saltillo 60, Como-Pickton 28 Saltillo vs Rivercrest in championship North Hopkins vs Como Pickton for 3rd Sulphur Bluff vs Avery for consolation

Slocum Tournament Leggett 38, Trinity 37 Slocum 67, Laneville 30 Kennard 41, Malakoff 38 Woden 42, Cushing 31 Rusk 49, Groveton 40 Frankston 47, SFA 23 Cushing 41, Groveton 37 Wells Tournament Broaddus 67, Mt Enterprise 37 Lapoynor 71, Apple Springs 40 Brookeland 37, Alto 34 Wells def Joaquin Campbell Tournament Trenton 46, Detroit 21 Campbell def Prairiland JV Cooper def Bland Ector 33, Blue Ridge 30 Saltillo Tournament Como Pickton 46, Sulphur Bluff 35 Rivercrest 59, Avery 36 North Hopkins 51, Roxton 24 Saltillo 71, CHESS 21

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[quote name="Dr.Baden" post="911353" timestamp="1290007623"] do you have any of the girls tournaments to post [/quote] Yes, I believe I have the Slocum, Wells, New Summerfield, Campbell and Saltillo girls brackets that I will post for you.  There is no east Texas forum on here so I guess I'll post it on this forum.

I'll update this thread if I find anymore A&M Consolidated 72, Lufkin 42 Beckville 51, West Rusk 21 Big Sandy 66, Alpha Omega 10 Blooming Grove 50, Cross Roads 38 Broaddus 63, Laneville 44 Buffalo 70, Elkhart 17 Bullard 62, Lindale 51 Campbell 52, Dodd City 42 Caney Creek 49, Coldspring 28 Carthage 37, Tenaha 28 Central Heights 48, Elysian Fields 44 Chireno 61, Timpson 38 Cushing 44, Apple Springs 34 Daingerfield 96, Gladewater 20 Dawson 42, Frost 35 Desoto 77, Red Oak 35 Diboll 59, Silsbee 23 Ector 34, Bells 28 Edgewood 48, Rains 42 Evadale 51, Colmesneil 22 Farmersville 55, Quinlan Ford 54 Ferris 46, Palmer 37 Gateway Charter 38, Pittsburg 23 Gilmer 86, Atlanta 62 Grand Saline 45, Eustace 23 Greenville 49, Bonham 30 Groveton 40, Kennard 35 Harleton 61, Big Sandy 35 Hawkins 37, Lone Oak 32 Honey Grove 68, Community 27 Hudson 59, Whitehouse 35 John Tyler 65, Palestine 50 Kemp 65, Scurry Rosser 24 Linden Kildare 47, Avinger 28 Lovelady 50, Pollok Central 37 Marshall 55, Texas High 48 Melissa 41, Decatur 40 Mexia 42, Connally 32 Mount Vernon 67, Cooper 37 Nacogdoches 45, Huntington 42 Neches 59, Lapoynor 37 New Caney 56, Cleveland 41 North Hopkins 47, Roxton 32 North Lamar 42, Sulphur Springs 33 Ore City 57, Union Hill 27 Pine Tree 52, Harmony 32 Princeton 59, Leonard 41 Royse City 60, Cleburne 44 S & S 55, Blue Ridge 40 Sabine 51, New Diana 41 Saltillo 75, Detroit 19 Sam Rayburn 57, Cumby 41 Savoy 53, Sulphur Bluff 19 Slocum 74, Mt Enterprise 50 Splendora 64, Leggett 40 Spring Hill 41, Mt Pleasant 32 Sunnyvale 51, Caddo Mills 25 Tatum 65, Henderson 48 Teague 46, Moody 26 Terrell 50, Paris 45 Tyler Grace Community 33, Van 32 Tyler Lee 55, Hallsville 35 Union Grove 46, Troup 42 Van Alstyne 48, Pottsboro 42 Wells 57, Gary 28 Westwood 46, Trinity 30 Wortham 40, Coolidge 32 White Oak 46, All Saints 34 Whitewright 30, Anna 25 Winnsboro 80, Liberty Eylau 57 Winona 54, New Summerfield 45 Zavalla 81, Centerville 35

If you want to know who all is covered in these rankings, go here: [Hidden Content] You can post your comments here or go to the link and comment: [Hidden Content] By the way, Silsbee, HJ, Kountze arent covered by Eastexsports(but Spurger is) so I'll save you the post of asking why they arent on the list. 1A-II 1. Dodd City 2. Spurger 3. Laneville 4. Miller Grove 5. Martinsville 6. Bloomburg 7. Leggett 8. Saltillo 9. Goodrich 10. Douglass/Ector 1A-I 1. Clarksville 2. Cayuga 3. Martins Mill 4. Grapeland 5. Slocum 6. Tenaha 7. Kerens 8. Bland 9. West Sabine 10. Hubbard/Avery 2A 1. Crockett 2. New Waverly 3. Melissa 4. Daingerfield 5. Tatum 6. Central Heights 7. White Oak 8. Arp 9. Sunnyvale 10. MP Chapel Hill 3A 1. Cleveland 2. Lindale 3. Lovejoy 4. Liberty-Eylau 5. Mexia 6. La Vega 7. Groesbeck 8. Athens 9. Madisonville 10. Center 4A/5A Will post later in season

Always check here on game nights.  I will usually have some scores from around southeast Texas like 22-3A, 18-3A or 1A. [Hidden Content] Anna 52, Denison 35 Apple Springs 49, Spurger 25 Arlington Sam Houston 56, Cleburne 39 Avinger 39, Ore City 35 Brownsboro 52 Wills Point 25 Bryan 56 Wells 42 Buna 69, Dallardsville Big Sandy 54 Carthage 78, Kilgore 52 Celina 86, Farmersville 39 Central Heights 54, Tenaha 20 Chester 43, Legacy Christian Academy 28 Clear Lake 55 , Lufkin 46 Conroe Oak Ridge 68, Caney Creek 24 Diboll 76, Shepherd 27 Duncanville 50, Desoto 44 Ferris 29, Corsicana 28 Forney 48, Mabank 37 Garrison 42, Trinity 31 Groveton 36, Centerville 26 Harleton 67, Pewitt 36 Henderson 64, Mineola 27 High Island 30, Brookeland 25 Huffman 47, Anahuac 38 Hughes Springs 58, Simms Bowie 38 Huntington 45, Silsbee 41 Huntsville 64, A&M Consolidated 61 Kerens 59, All Saints 19 Lewisville 63, Mesquite 56 Liberty Eylau 87, Dekalb 23 Lovelady 75 Leggett 27 Lovejoy 53, Sanger 41 Melissa 44, Howe 30 Mexia 76, Mart 47 Mildred 55, Scurry Rosser 47 Montgomery 72, Splendora 32 Mount Vernon 69, Sulphur Springs 38 Muenster 46, Honey Grove 38 Mumford 55, Bremond 27 Neches 64, Central 15 New Diana 63, Waskom 31 New Summerfield 41, Beckville 38 North Mesquite 38, Ennis 30 Quinlan Ford 47, Van Alstyne 27 Rains 47, Community 46 Rice 44, Dallas Life 22 Royse City 53, Richardson Pearce 44 Sherman 65, Bonham 13 Slocum 56, Kennard 36 Tatum 70, Queen City 50 Tomball 43, Magnolia 38 West Brook 59, Cleveland 15 Willis 43, Conroe 39 Winnsboro 82, John Tyler 65 Woden 49, Hudson 45 Wortham 45, Trinidad 8

[Hidden Content] Here a link to the poll I posted on eastexsports, go and vote for who you think is the best district race in east Texas.  I copied and pasted my post on the link below: What is the best district race in east Texas?  There are several good ones here.  You got 2 top 5 teams in 1 district in New Waverly and Crockett.  New Waverly had another run at the state tournament and Crockett went a couple rounds in 3A.  You have maybe the best 2 teams in 1A-I in one district in Martins Mill and Cayuga who played for region 3 last season.  Miller Grove and Dodd City lost to the 2 regional finalists last year and return a lot of players.   Slocum and Grapeland split in non district action last season before being reunited in the same district again this year and both should be strong again. Martinsville drops down to 1A-II and should give Kennard a battle for 23-1A-II.  21-2A will be tough every time Arp, Frankston, and West Rusk play each other.  19-3A features a couple state ranked teams in Mexia and Groesbeck.  There are some districts I am not quite familiar with so there may be some districts i'm leaving out.  Tell me what district races you are looking forward to...

[Hidden Content] Go check it out, there are tons of schedules all over East Texas for you to see.  There are many districts on there of interest to SETX, like 24-1A-II, 24-1A, 22-2A, 18-3A, and 22-3A, and so many more.  If you have a schedule of a team that I dont have or see something that needs to be corrected, please send me a message on here or on Eastexsports.

[quote name="AggiesAreWe" post="894605" timestamp="1288710335"] If you are strictly speaking of our area teams, I see no one winning a state title. Of all the teams in the state, these are my picks for state titles: 5A    Fort Bend Bush 4A    The Colony 3A   Lubbock Estacado 2A   Hallettsville 1A DI    Clarksville 1ADII    Paducah [/quote] AAW, I dont know anything about Paducah, but I'm surprised you didnt pick Bronte to win 1A-II, since they moved down from 1A-I to 1A-II, returning their best players, and you watched them take Cayuga to the wire in the state championship game in the drum.  I like the Clarksville pick, but I also think Cayuga or Martins Mill could win that very tough region 3.

[quote name="ST413" post="871958" timestamp="1286773997"] Thanks for the post.  I made the statement on the other site so I will make it here.  Their logic is hard to understand,  they have    H-J ranked higher than Silsbee, yet they have the Tigers picked as the district favorite????? [/quote] To answer your question, I think the top 10 poll is voted on by all the coaches in the state while the district picks are only voted on by the district coaches.  Another example of this is 1A-II Leggett is ranked in the top 10 but only ranked 3rd in district, and the 1st and 2nd place teams arent even ranked in the top 10.

I just got the new Texpreps Magazine for this basketball season.  I posted the Top 10's for all classes and also all the district picks for east and southeast Texas.  In the link below is where it is all posted.  You can go there for all your east Texas basketball info.  Over the next month I'll be posting full schedules, and some point in the season will start 1A-5A rankings.  Also there will be scores and standings throughout the season. [Hidden Content]

[quote name="PhatMack19" post="867788" timestamp="1286463656"] A friend posted this on FB: Where does Halladay rank among the great modern pitchers: Maddux, Glavine, Smoltz, Schilling, [b]Beckett[/b], Johnson, and Clemens? Roy still has some years left to catch up with those guys numbers.  If he hadn't been hidden in Canada for all of those years, this argument may be a little different. [/quote] I'm sorry, but Beckett doesnt belong on the list of guys you just mentioned.  Beckett just finished his 9th full season and has only racked up 112 wins and only has pitched 30 starts 3 times in his career.  Beckett is not reliable during the regular season, he's always hurt.  Beckett is hyped because he had a few excellent postseasons, but you have to do more than that in the regular season to be considered an all time great.  I would replace him with Roy Oswalt, who entered the league around the same time and is 150-83 and a career era thats almost a full run lower.  Since he's entered the league, he ranks top 5 in wins, era, winning %.   To answer your question though, its always about longevity for the HOF, but Roy Halladay is definitely on a fast track to the Hall of Fame.  If he contributes to a Phillies World Series win, and can have about 3-4 more really good seasons, hes a lock for the HOF.

The Astros just lost 2 long time players that were cornerstones of their franchise.  I think both wouldve liked to finish their career in Houston but i also think both wanted a shot at one more title and i cant fault them for it.  Both seemed to express interest in possibly coming back to Houston before they retire.  Berkman has always lived in Texas so i imagine he'll want to come back as soon as he can.  Oswalt is still 1 win away from the club record and i really think he wanted and wants to break it.  If i were voting on the poll, i may be on Oswalt over Berkman.  While Berkman has more ties to the club with his hometown, he plays a position that has been filled by Brett Wallace while Oswalt plays a position that has 5 spots in a rotation.  I think Oswalt has a little more incentive to come back with the club record in wins still in reach.  What do you think though?

I know this was a couple nights ago, but did anyone see Carlos Gonzalez's cycle against the Cubs?  He hit a walkoff home run on the first pitch to the upper deck in the bottom of the 9th to complete the cycle.  I was watching it live on WGN and jumped out of my seat when it happened  (Carlos Gonzalez is on 2 of my fantasy teams, lol).  I just heard though that he is the first lefty in MLB HISTORY to get all 4 hits for the cycle off lefty pitchers.  This guy probably shouldve been an all star and is a superstar in the making.  Just wondering if anyone noticed this over the weekend.

I got to see the 9th inning of Braden, Halladay, and Jimenez this year, and this game seemed to have all the makings of a perfect game/no hitter with the great catch in the 9th by Austin Jackson.  You figure on a close call, like Anibal Sanchez's no hitter on the final play of game a few years back, they would give him the benefit of the doubt.  He just blew it.  I wonder now with all this recent umpire controversy, if the talk of instant replay will come back.  With today's technology, it's hard to argue against it now...