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This saturday the 2 #1 ranked teams in 1A divisions 1 and 2 will play in Athens at 7.  Cayuga is without Caleb Summerville and i believe they are missing a few key players due to injury.  Cayuga lost to Argyle and Navasota at the Whataburger tournament.  Slocum beat Grand Saline, Grapeland and #7 Miller Grove and lost to MP Chapel Hill at Martins Mill tournament.  These 2 teams are very familiar with each other, having played against each other 2 years ago which Cayuga won a close one (also play every summer in summer league).  I know Coop is very interested in this game, he loves these small school matchups.  I know catman has an opinion also, what do yall think, who wins?

[quote name="HoopInsider_Cooper" post="732473" timestamp="1261116064"] [font=Courier]Can't believe we haven't heard from beeninikes on this one! If Orangefield loses to Sabine Pass, it's time for some soul-searching in Bobcat Country![/font] [/quote] I agree with that statement.  I know Orangefield hasnt been very consistent this year and they would definitely qualify as one of the biggest underachievers so far this year.  That being said, i'm a little surprised at the predictions on this thread, especially from CATMAN and whsalum (whose opinions i respect).  I always like to look at Coops spreads (and argue with him about a few of them, lol) and they are usually pretty close.  Orangefield normally doesnt blow teams out, so i dont see them covering the 30 pts, but i'd be very surprised and disappointed if they lost. 

I thought i'd point out to yall that these 2 teams are playing each other tuesday night.  If you are a fan of 3A girls basketball, you should keep an eye on this game.  Both of these teams are in the same district in region 3.  So OF and HJ will likely have to beat at least one of these teams to get out of the region. 

Since you guys like to argue so much, take look at these rankings and tell me what you think.  You got to see some of these teams this weekend, and maybe of youve seen or heard of some other teams before that. [Hidden Content] CLASS 5A/4A 1. Lancaster 2. DeSoto 3. Brenham 4. Mesquite 5. New Caney 6. Conroe Oak Ridge 7. Jacksonville 8. Magnolia 9. Hallsville 10. Whitehouse CLASS 3A 1. Cleveland 2. Navasota 3. Paris 4. Bryan Rudder 5. Bullard 6. Fairfield 7. Hudson 8. Brownsboro 9. Mexia 10. Rusk 11. Texarkana Pleasant Grove 12. Crockett 13. Groesbeck 14. Van 15. Chapel Hill CLASS 2A 1. New Waverly 2. Clarksville 3. Sabine 4. Arp 5. Edgewood 6. Kerens 7. White Oak 8. Hearne 9. Jefferson 10. Mount Pleasant Chapel Hill CLASS 1A DIVISION I: 1. Cayuga 2. Merit Bland 3. Detroit 4. Grapeland 5. Tenaha 6. La Poynor 7. Martin's Mill 8. North Hopkins 9. Lovelady 10. Yantis CLASS 1A DIVISION II 1. Laneville 2. Slocum 3. Miller Grove 4. Leggett 5. Bloomburg 6. Dodd City 7. Roxton 8. Kennard 9. Douglass 10. Neches

Saturday scores: Consolation: Woodville 55 Broaddus 36 5th: Kennard 41 Zavalla 19 3rd: Lovelady 73 Woden 54 Championship: Slocum 38 Diboll 29

Thursday scores: Woden 53, Brookeland 12 Kennard 58, Trinity 47 Diboll 56, Corrigan-Camden 29 Lovelady 66, Broaddus 59 Central 45, Newton 42 Slocum 49, Woodville 45 Woden 48, Zavalla 46 Diboll 59, Kennard 35 Slocum 35, Central 25 Friday scores: Woodville 60 Newton 50 Broaddus 45 Corrigan Camden 35 Trinity 63 Brookeland 44 Woodville 54 Zavalla 31 Kennard 38 Central 27 Broaddus 48 Trinity 36 Diboll 58 Woden 47 Slocum 53 Lovelady 30 Broaddus vs Woodville for consolation Kennard vs Zavalla for 5th Woden vs Lovelady for 3rd Slocum vs Diboll for championship Predictions for saturday?

Predictions on this one? [Hidden Content]

Predictions on this one? [Hidden Content]

[quote name="OLDREF" post="722408" timestamp="1259785744"] I HAVE POSTED ON THIS SITE FOR QUITE A WHILE.....It really bothers me when there is information posted that is not correct and it is taken as gospel..1) Nederlands Home chapter is TASO--2) There are more than a few schools being serviced by UIL--they include--5A WESTBROOK AND MEMORIAL--4A--CENTRAL AND OZEN--3A--SILSBEE AND CLEVELAND--2A--NEWTON--DEWEYVILLE--BUNA--KOUNTZE--WARREN--1A--SPURGER--WEST HARDIN--HULL -DAISETTA--COMMUNITY CHRISTIAN --3) [b]I cannot comment on the OF/VIDOR game without seeing the tape,--but I ask  WHAT CONSTITUTES A WELL OFFICIATED GAME?  IS IT NOT SUBJECTIVE JUST LIKE OFFICIATING?..Our crew that did the Kountze/HJ game was blasted on this site by some...yet praised by many others....WHO WAS RIGHT?....We are all entitled to our opinion...but if you are stating something as fact...be sure of it[/b] [/quote] Me and Hoopinsider were at the Kountze/HJ game and the OF/Vidor game, and i can tell you there is no comparison between the officiating in those games.  The officiating in the Kountze/HJ game was way better and i thought the guys at a Kountze/HJ did a pretty good job, and i'd take that crew any day.  Wildcatter's post is right on.  I watch a lot of games every year, and i'm by no means an official but i cant tell if a game is called well or poorly.  I know most games you watch, an average crew will have maybe 1-2 obvious missed calls for a whole game.  Last night there were several obvious missed calls that left players, coaches and fans shaking their heads on both sides.  They gave OF a 3 pt basket on a ball shot around the elbow.  It was inconsistent, they'd call a tight call in the open court, then on a fast break layup they let a guy get hammered for no call.  And if they made a questionable call they were unsure of, you almost always saw a makeup call on the next trip down the court.  At the end of the game, they let the bench near the sideline make the call for them on a ball that went out of bounds.  Orangefield played poorly last night and deserved to lose, but i wouldve liked to have watched the game under different circumstances.

[Hidden Content] There were a lot of changes in the polls this week.  The glaring omission is Goodrich who is #12 ranked in tabc but has been unimpressive in the preseason.  What are yalls thoughts on the polls? CLASS 5A/4A: 1. DeSoto 2. Lancaster 3. Conroe Oak Ridge 4. The Woodlands College Park 5. Brenham 6. Mesquite 7. Jacksonville 8. Longview 9. Tyler Lee 10. The Woodlands CLASS 3A: 1. Cleveland 2. Texarkana Pleasant Grove 3. Navasota 4. Paris 5. Lorena 6. Bryan Rudder 7. Crockett 8. Madisonville 9. Rusk 10. Bullard CLASS 2A: 1. New Waverly 2. Sabine 3. Clarksville 4. Arp 5. Hearne 6. Edgewood 7. White Oak 8. Newton 9. Trinity 10. Kerens CLASS 1A DIVISION I: 1. Cayuga 2. Tenaha 3. Merit Bland 4. La Poynor 5. Detroit 6. Grapeland 7. Avery 8. Martin's Mill 9. North Hopkins 10. Yantis CLASS 1A DIVISION II: 1. Laneville 2. Slocum 3. Leggett 4. Miller Grove 5. Dodd City 6. Roxton 7. Bloomburg 8. Kennard 9. Neches 10. Douglass

Always check here for any scores/updates on games/tournaments in east Texas. [Hidden Content]

[quote name="ghostt" post="716683" timestamp="1259037450"] [quote author=KFDM COOP link=topic=62901.msg716578#msg716578 date=1259028199] 28-8 Half OF over Vidor [/quote][quote author=KFDM COOP link=topic=62901.msg716609#msg716609 date=1259030686] OF 52 Vidor 41 Final... [/quote] DID THE SUBS COME IN? THAT FINAL IS VERY CLOSE COMPARED TO THE HALF [/quote] OF was up 39-12 midway through the 3rd quarter and seemed to let up in intensity at that point in the game.  Vidor went on a 13-0 run to end the quarter.  The closest Vidor got after the 1st quarter was 10-12 pts in the 2nd half so it was never really close.  Williamson hit a 3 pointer on the buzzer to end the game.  Derrick Evans is coming back from an injury and only played about 3-4 minutes in this game.  One of the first players off the bench for OF also didnt play tonight.  It was a pretty good night for OF though.

[Hidden Content] I know you guys like to look at polls and rankings so i thought you'd be interested in seeing the rankings for east Texas.  Your thoughts and comments are welcome about the rankings on here or on the link above.  Here are the districts these polls cover: 1A-II- 21, 22, 23, 24, 25 1A- 17, 18, 19, 20, 21, 22, 23, 24 2A- 12, 13, 14, 17, 18, 19, 20, 21, 22 3A- 10, 13, 14, 16, 17, 18, 19, 20, 22, 24 4A- 13, 14, 15, 16, 18 5A- 11, 14

Here are some results from all the tournaments in east Texas on Nov 19-21. [Hidden Content]

I posted this on eastexsports and i thought i'd post it on here for you small school fans or anyone interested.  This article talks about the tabc ranked #1 and #2 ranked teams in east Texas, Slocum and Laneville.  These 2 team have been the past 2 state champions and are in the same district and same region. [Hidden Content] Famous For A Small Town: 1A Giants Think Big By SHANE STARK Staff Writer Prior to the 2008 season, the Slocum and Laneville boys basketball teams had little history with one another. No doubt, things change. When the UIL season begins Monday, Slocum's Mustangs and Laneville's Yellowjackets will officially embark on a race to district, regional and state supremacy. Slocum is ranked No. 1 in Class 1A Division II by the Texas Association of Basketball coaches, plus is the defending state champion. Laneville is rated second by the TABC, plus is only two years removed from a state crown. Note to East Texas hoops fans: The Mustangs and Yellowjackets meet Jan. 23 and Feb. 16. "It's going to be extremely hyped up," Slocum coach Jay Bruce said. "It will be exciting." In last year's regular-season meetings between the teams, Laneville prevailed each time -- 47-45 and 59-49 -- en route to the league title. However, the Mustangs avenged the loss with a 58-56 victory against the Yellowjackets in the regional final to punch their first ticket to Austin. "It still kind of stings a little bit," Laneville all-state senior GerRaylon Carey said last week. "We are wanting to play them again so we can go back to state." The success shared by Slocum and Laneville is a testament to 24-1A Division II's overall strength. Similar to the NCAA's Big East Conference, high-profile matchups are on tap almost every game night. Just call it the Little East. Over the last eight years, the league has been represented at state six times. In addition to Slocum and Laneville (twice), Kennard, Neches and Oakwood have also made trips. Last season, Oakwood went 0-14 in league action but played Slocum to within 10 points in both of their meetings. "When you look at our district, there's a lot of tradition in basketball," Laneville coach Brian Nichols said. "On any given night, the communities are going to support their basketball because that's the only thing to do in town. We are at the smallest level, so there's a lot of pride in it at the community level." A Championship, The Yellowjacket Way Laneville, which won back-to-back titles in 1992-93, is a basketball-crazed community in Rusk County. In 2006-07, the Yellowjackets returned to prominence by winning the regional title and making their first state appearance in almost two decades, but eighth overall. They fell by nine points in the championship game to Nazareth, but set the foundation for better things to come. Laneville returned to the University of Texas' Frank Erwin Center the very next season, and cut down the nets following their 56-50 victory against Goodrich. And just like Slocum last season, the Yellowjackets finished second in district that year but wound up tops in the land. Though the teams hadn't joined the same district yet, one of the Yellowjackets' five losses came against Slocum. "I wanted this for them. Any coach wants to win a state championship, but after being so close to winning last year, it hurt the kids to taste that," Nichols said in the postgame news conference after the final. This season, Laneville returns eight players who experienced the title. In addition, those players went through the agony of last season's end result. "It hurt bad," Carey said. "We're still thinking about it and are working on it." A Championship, The Mustang Way Slocum, which fell to 1A Division II during the latest UIL realignments and reclassifications, is located in Anderson County and is building a winning tradition in Dr. James Naismith's game. In addition to the boys team, the Slocum girls have experienced success and enter the season ranked No. 11 by the TABC. The boys went into last season ranked second. However, the Mustangs at times stumbled during non-district and experienced trouble finding an answer to Laneville in district. That all became a distant memory in the regional final, though, when junior post Randall Thomason sank a pair of free throws in the waning moments to send the Mustangs to victory. The next stop was the final four, which Slocum capitalized on by beating five-time state champion Nazareth -- four-time this decade -- 45-27 in the championship game. "It was awesome," Bruce said. "When we got into the playoffs, we had a tough season so it was one game at a time. We never thought a lot about anything like winning state. We just got really hot in the playoffs." Slocum returns six lettermen and three starters, but lost leading-scorer Jared Lane to graduation. Thomason, a 6-4 senior post who averaged 13 points a year ago, is expected to take over the leading-scorer role for a team that's experienced, balanced and deep. "I feel like there will be a lot of pressure on us," Thomason said. "A lot of us just have to keep our heads straight and focused, and act like (the state title) never happened."

Go to these links to vote for who you think is the favorites to win region 3.  This list will include teams to vote for like Goodrich, Leggett, Slocum, Cayuga, Kountze, New Waverly, Sabine, HJ, Silsbee, Cleveland and more.  You can also discuss the list on eastexsports or here. 1A-II- [Hidden Content] 1A-I- [Hidden Content] 2A- [Hidden Content] 3A- [Hidden Content]

[Hidden Content] Go to this link to check out all the east Texas schedules that are posted which is at over 160 and counting.  That would include every schedule of districts 18 and 22-3A for those fans, plus almost every schedule in 3A region 3 (minus 21-3A which is on here), and Big Sandy's district.  You can find the schedules for the big time contenders in east Texas like Laneville, Slocum, Miller Grove, Cayuga, Martins Mill, Tenaha, Sabine, White Oak, Pleasant Grove, and many more.  If you have a schedule for a team in east Texas that is not listed on there, feel free to post it.

[Hidden Content] Theres over 100 girls schedules on this link above, which includes some of 22-3A- Coldspring, Huffman, Liberty, Tarkington, Splendora and most of 18-3A- Carthage, Center, Central, Diboll, Huntington, Jasper and a lot of 3A region 3. If you see a team schedule on there missing (I dont have any of 22-2A) that you have, post it on this link: [Hidden Content]

[Hidden Content] Theres a write up under each classification, so you might want to go to the link to read that. 5A 1. S.A. Wagner 2. Cedar Hill 3. Duncanville 4. DeSoto 5. A. Westlake 6. G. Lakeview 7. Plano West 8. La Porte 9. S.A. Madison 10. H. Bellaire 11. McAllen 12. Bryan 13. Klein Forest 14. S.A. Clark 15. Elsik 16. M. Lee 17. N. Crowley 18. Cy Woods 19. Judson 20. F.M. Marcus 4A 1. Yates 2. Palo Duro 3. Lancaster 4. D. Kimball 5. Lake Travis 6. Ozen 7. F.W. Dunbar 8. Sherman 9. Austin LBJ 10. LaMarque 11. Timberview 12. Brenham 13. D. Lincoln 14. Legacy 15. Kerville Tivy 16. Kingwood Park 17. Denison 18. H. Jones 19. South Oak Cliff 20. Highland Park 3A 1. D. Madison 2. Estacado 3. Stafford 4. Pleasant Grove 5. West Oso 6. Cleveland 7. Hudson 8. S.A. Houston 9. Liberty Hill 10. Navasota 11. Hardin-Jefferson 12. Burkburnett 13. Crandall 14. Seminole 15. Silsbee 16. Sweeny 17. Gatesville 18. Kennedale 19. Crockett 20. Aransas Pass 2A 1. New Waverly 2. Sabine 3. Bushland 4. Ponder 5. Hallettsville 6. Arp 7. Clarksville 8. Edgewood 9. Wall 10. Jim Ned 11. Santa Rosa 12. Melissa 13. Godley 14. S.A. Cole 15. Kountze 16. Olney 17. Eastland 18. S.A. Randolph 19. Hearne 20. Hitchcock 1A 1. Cayuga 2. Sudan 3. Mumford 4. Roscoe 5. Tenaha 6. Gruver 7. Bronte 8. Sabinal 9. M. Bland 10. Detroit 11. Itasca 12. D. Gateway 13. Clarendon 14. Italy 15. Anton 16. S.A. Stacey 17. Bremond 18. Wheeler 19. Mt. Enterprise 20. Normangee 1A-II 1. Slocum 2. Laneville 3. Leggett 4. Nazareth 5. Vega 6. Lipan 7. Ira 8. Brookeland 9. Paducah 10. Ft. Davis 11. Miller Grove 12. Goodrich 13. Hen. Midway 14. Grady 15. Calvert 16. Kress 17. Bordon Co. 18. Priddy 19. Moulton 20. Groom

To answer a few questions about earlier comments in this thread, no Spurger, BS, or SP are not ranked in the top 10. I only posted the teams listed in the top 10. I would check TABC's top 20 rankings that come out sometime this month. I imagine 1 or 2 of those teams could be ranked, i dont know about Big Sandy, they lost some starters from last year. The reason for the difference between the rankings for Slocum and Laneville ranked in state and district have to do with the voting. The coaches around the state voted for Laneville ahead of Slocum but the coaches in Slocums district voted Slocum to win the district. This magazine is done by RV Baugus, i believe he is the only one involved in it. He asks all the coaches to send in info for their team and district so he can put this magazine together. You can usually tell by reading each team preview whether or not a coach sent him some info on their team. I imagine some districts he doesnt get very much information so you cant really blame him if the predictions dont seem accurate. Most of them i think you may disagree on a few teams but i think overall he does a pretty good job.

I posted this on the boys side so here is the district picks for the Texpreps Basketball Magazine for the girls. 25-1A-II 1. Leggett 2. Goodrich 3. Chireno 4. Apple Springs 5. Brookeland 6. Groveton Centerville 7. Chester 23-1A 1. Lovelady 2. Big Sandy 3. Grapeland 4. Alto 5. Latexo 24-1A 1. Zavalla 2. West Sabine 3. Broaddus 4. Martinsville 5. Colmesneil 6. Burkeville 25-1A 1. Evadale 2. Hull Daisetta 3. West Hardin 4. Spurger 5. High Island 6. Sabine Pass 22-2A 1. Woodville 2. Hemphill 3. Kirbyville 4. Newton 5. San Augustine 6. Shelbyville 23-2A 1. Kountze 2. Anahuac 3. East Chambers 4. Hardin 5. Warren 6. Deweyville 7. Buna 18-3A 1. Central 2. Diboll 3. Huntington 4. Carthage 5. Hudson 6. Jasper 7. Center 8. Rusk 21-3A 1. Hardin Jefferson 2. Orangefield 3. Hamshire Fannett 4. West Orange Stark 5. Silsbee 6. Bridge City 22-3A 1. Cleveland 2. Coldspring 3. Splendora 4. Tarkington 5. Huffman 6. Shepherd 7. Liberty 19-4A 1. Barbers Hill 2. Kingwood Park 3. CE King 4. Dayton 5. Crosby 6. Goose Creek Memorial 7. North Forest 8. Galena Park 20-4A 1. Central 2. Livingston 3. Ozen 4. Nederland 5. LCM 6. Lumberton 7. PNG 8. Vidor 21-5A 1. North Shore 2. Channelview 3. Baytown Lee 4. Baytown Sterling 5. West Brook 6. PA Memorial State ranked teams: 1A-II- 7- Leggett 2A- 6- Woodville

I have come out of hibernation from this board to bring some information for yall to read and discuss. I just got my Texpreps Magazine today so i thought i'd share the picks with yall. What do you think of them? agree, disagree? A side note also, there is an article about Bridge City and Hurricane Ike if anyone wants to pick up the magazine to read that. If you want to see the rest of the picks for east Texas along with the top 10s from every class, you can go to this link. [Hidden Content] 25-1A-II 1. Goodrich 2. Brookeland 3. Leggett 4. Apple Springs 5. Chireno 6. Chester 7. Groveton Centerville 23-1A 1. Big Sandy 2. Grapeland 3. Alto 4. Lovelady 5. Latexo 24-1A 1. Broaddus 2. West Sabine 3. Martinsville 4. Zavalla 5. Colmesneil 6. Burkeville 25-1A 1. Spurger 2. Sabine Pass 3. Evadale 4. Hull Daisetta 5. West Hardin 6. High Island 21-2A 1. New Waverly 2. Buffalo 3. Trinity 4. Corrigan Camden 5. Onalaska 6. Centerville 7. Anderson Shiro 8. Groveton 22-2A 1. Newton 2. Shelbyville 3. San Augustine 4. Woodville 5. Kirbyville 6. Hemphill 23-2A 1. Kountze 2. East Chambers 3. Anahuac 4. Deweyville 5. Hardin 6. Buna 7. Warren 18-3A 1. Hudson 2. Rusk 3. Center 4. Carthage 5. Huntington 6. Jasper 7. Diboll 8. Central 21-3A 1. Silsbee 2. Hardin Jefferson 3. West Orange Stark 4. Orangefield 5. Bridge City 6. Hamshire Fannett 22-3A 1. Cleveland 2. Coldspring 3. Liberty 4. Shepherd 5. Huffman 6. Splendora 7. Tarkington 19-4A 1. Kingwood Park 2. CE King 3. North Forest 4. Crosby 5. Galena Park 6. Barbers Hill 7. Goose Creek Memorial 8. Dayton 20-4A 1. Ozen 2. Central 3. Nederland 4. LCM 5. Livingston 6. PNG 7. Lumberton 8. Vidor 21-5A 1. PA Memorial 2. North Shore 3. Channelview 4. Baytown Sterling 5. West Brook 6. Baytown Lee State rankings: 4A- 7-Ozen 3A- 3-Cleveland 3A- 4-Silsbee 3A- 6-HJ 2A- 2-New Waverly 2A- 4-Kountze 1A-II- 3-Goodrich (Laneville & Slocum are 1,2) 1A-II- 10-Leggett

I'm watching Sportsnation today on ESPN2, which is a new show that talks about sports and a variety of topics. They have a segment called weird web stories, where they show interesting videos of fans and people. They showed about a 5 second clip of Fox 4's meteorologist Nick Kosir rapping the forecast. I went back and found the youtube video and watched it, its pretty good. Did anyone see this today on TV or have they seen this video before?

[Hidden Content] This was a well deserved award for Wandy, going 4-0 with a 0.75 era. I know he has missed some time but, the fact that he has a 2.63 era this late in the year is pretty impressive. If you look at his career stats, his era has gone down steadily over the past 3 years. I know hes already 30, but if he can stay off the DL, i think he can give the astros some productive seasons over the next few years.

Roy Oswalt currently stands at 134 wins with one more start before the all star break. Oswalt has 2 years left on his contract after this season, plus a club option for 2012 (which im sure the Astros would pick up if Oswalt is still pitching well). I've heard Oswalt has said he will retire after his contract expires. But if he is still pitching at a high level when his contract is up, i hope he will continue to pitch. If he pitches well over the next 3.5 years (including club option), which is the length of his remaining contract, i imagine he will be close to the 200 win plateau, which i'd like to see him get. Every year he starts slow and people say hes done, then he picks it up after the first couple months and pitches like we expect. I think hes still got some left and can pile up some more wins if he can actually get some run support. But what do yall think?