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[quote name="WOS Stangs" post="1203420" timestamp="1332993017"] Rounder 17, I thought you said in one of your earlier post that you know it all. You know whatever there is to know about what is going on between USSSA and Nations. Apparently you don't. Why don't you try asking your Nations director. The one that offers team discounts to teams if they don't play in (local) USSSA events, and the first time that they do they lose the discount. Also the one that told (local) umpires that if they umpire U-trip events they would not be allowed to umpire any (local) Nations events. Also the one that told a man that cleans up the fields after the games that if he cleaned up for any of the U-trip events, he would not be able to clean up and get paid at his Nations events. He made a mistake by calling a USSSA Houston tournament event that had teams registered for a tournament and asking them to drop out and come play in his Nations tournaments in Beaumont for free. Now you ask why all of the Gladiator teams have been suspended from U-Trip, well now you have your answer. Next time before you go running your mouth you might want to know the facts, not what you want to believe or what someone tells you. These are the facts. Now lets play ball!!! [/quote] FACTS .....I love Facts!!!! this is the reason why my sons whole organization will not play usssa in bmt , but we can go to  lake charles and play Usssa, only Nations in Bmt thats **  ..., it is rediculous by our own  leader to even consider doing this.I love Baseball , I love usssa

Gladiators /Nations-  have  been trying to kill Usssa in Bmt. since it started..... Several times the Nations tournament director in Bmt. has offered my son's team discounts,  if we only play Nations tournaments at Ford Park.  So we are only allowed to play Usssa tournaments in other areas. Also I have a close coworker that is an umpire who was cordially threatened to not work Usssa gamrumores.  Which is ridiculous! ...........Facts not  rumor

[quote name="knucklehead" post="1202253" timestamp="1332796219"] [quote author=2 Sons Playing link=topic=97729.msg1202184#msg1202184 date=1332789536] [quote author=knucklehead link=topic=97729.msg1199250#msg1199250 date=1332191344] Also, Congrats to the Texas Sting, a Beaumont area team, for winning the Nations St. Patrick Day Showdown hosted at Ford Park this past weekend.  Tourney CHAMPIONS for 12U. Great Job Ruben!!! [/quote] [color=green]So 1st you hijack someone else's thread for your own teams announcement[/color]. "You were obviously proud enough  of your tournament victory to start in on a thread about it. Are yall that hard up for the world to know that your team won a tournament" [color=green]Then you complain about somebody doing the exact same thing you did. One thing is for sure, you are appropriately named..knucklehead!!!    [/color] [/quote]  Yes, I am proud of my thread name, thank you! I promoted the Texas Sting on your thread because you look foolish when you have to self promote a tournament victory on the forum.    I mean, was this like a World Series or State Championship or something?  Step it up a notch and play a  tourney in Beaumont and see how you do in the 12U select " kiddie pool"  Oh, I forgot , you guys got kicked out of Nations! Okay, then play a 12 AA with 20 teams and lets see how it goes!  You win that one and I will post your victory on the forum for ya! ;) [/quote] .......U funny

Lol !!!!!! Its All DADDY BALL......select

Starvin Marvin's

[quote name="WeedBegone" post="1177581" timestamp="1329230147"] [quote author=Smoking Baby link=topic=95898.msg1177532#msg1177532 date=1329220644] Man, nothing against the coaches, but that's a weak final 5 for a 5A school.  Is it really that bad of a place to coach? So Flannigan is the only head coach to have head coaching experience at 4A or above?  He just left a bad campus with obvious racial tensions on the board. Not to mention people in the area had to have seen his Cougars play Vidor using a pass defense.  Haynes has won a lot of games, but 2A to 5A?????  Really! [/quote] Yo Baby--Stump came from Beaumont Kelly---Not sure how many A's that counts for... but size does not matter ---its how you move the ball  on the playing field.    ;) [/quote] +1, so true

Wow ......Wos last district game plus at home again !!!!

[quote name="Big Ford" post="1172313" timestamp="1328398196"] Soulja,  I was hoping Central would have dropped Memorial and picked up another 4A school from somewhere.  I like them picking back up WO-S. [/quote] We love it also WOS/Central

[quote name="elhector1" post="1171376" timestamp="1328297813"] [quote author=Cheermom4 link=topic=95290.msg1171236#msg1171236 date=1328287310] [quote author=One4All link=topic=95290.msg1171170#msg1171170 date=1328282229] [quote author=Cheermom4 link=topic=95290.msg1171137#msg1171137 date=1328280423] [quote author=One4All link=topic=95290.msg1170827#msg1170827 date=1328219433] [quote author=Cheermom4 link=topic=95290.msg1170812#msg1170812 date=1328218315] [quote author=One4All link=topic=95290.msg1170803#msg1170803 date=1328217748] that's what you think........ Fact is : Rules are Rules ...... punishments 4 broken rules is what makes the difference....... [/quote] Facts don't matter when you own The House...... I don't understand what your saying?  I can't read between the lines here in all of this. [/quote] 2 people can break the same rules, but get different  punishments [/quote] Whom else broke the rules and do you have proof?  If so then go to STJFL if not then it is only hearsay. [/quote] Proof .. doesn't matter when you own The House! [/quote] How can or why should we believe you if you don't tell us FACTS or provide PROOF?  You are the one that wants everyone to believe you so provide the proof or shut up.  I am sick of hearing all the whining. [/quote] One of the problem with decisions made by others is that the only proof, the only truth, resides with them.  You can't offer a proof, you can only speculate, which is what these varied threads have done.  I notice that many of those crying foul over other's specualtion are engaged in it as well.  It's hard to truly put it to rest when only the minutes of that particular meeting can put it all to rest. So where does that leave the kids?  As far as PA goes, there might be some competition out there available...there is more specualtion of other cities in STJFL pulling out.  Contact them...initiate talks NOW, because you need the time to set everything up.  Leave STJFL and their politics. As far as parents go...EVERY city and league have their idiots...it's not a area or regional thing.  Keep those folks on a short leash...seriously.  It becomes about them and not the kids. As far as "strategic drafting" and "stacking"...both are methods by which a coach gets an edge over another team.  The big difference is that stacking is immediate, and strategic develops over time.  What happens is that the team that has been together for a long time, becomes the pre-eminent team 2-3 years later.  The aren't stacked that year, they "grew" into the stacking.  Both should be against the rules.  Draft a kid, and let the reality of "this kid or that kid" come into play.  Have more than one team, but the caution is...you can't have a team of 14-15 kids...you will end up forfeiting half of your games, because 5 or 6 "little Billys" catch the flu.  Let the good kids learn to play with, and at times, inspire the kids that aren't so good.  We never know what these kids will do in the future.  No one does.  A coach is there to mentor, to teach, and to learn...not just send in plays... [/quote] I totally agree with you, I wish , wish wiiisshh The people could see and read The Minutes..............

let him play........ The stjfl is a great league... it will survive in 2012+

[quote name="thetragichippy" post="1171223" timestamp="1328286588"] [quote author=One4All link=topic=95290.msg1171170#msg1171170 date=1328282229] [quote author=Cheermom4 link=topic=95290.msg1171137#msg1171137 date=1328280423] [quote author=One4All link=topic=95290.msg1170827#msg1170827 date=1328219433] [quote author=Cheermom4 link=topic=95290.msg1170812#msg1170812 date=1328218315] [quote author=One4All link=topic=95290.msg1170803#msg1170803 date=1328217748] that's what you think........ Fact is : Rules are Rules ...... punishments 4 broken rules is what makes the difference....... [/quote] Facts don't matter when you own The House...... I don't understand what your saying?  I can't read between the lines here in all of this. [/quote] 2 people can break the same rules, but get different  punishments [/quote] Lol ...... you just don't get it..... that's why the Vote was a split Whom else broke the rules and do you have proof?  If so then go to STJFL if not then it is only hearsay. [/quote] Proof .. doesn't matter when you own The House! [/quote] BLAMER or in other words, I don't have proof, I'm just blaming someone else so in my mind I don't look as guilty  ::) [/quote] Lol ..... you just don't get it., that's why the Vote  was a split,, it's always good to own The House....... everyone knows 99 percent of the time the house is going to win, no matter what you prove

Hf is on a rise .....

[quote name="Cheermom4" post="1171137" timestamp="1328280423"] [quote author=One4All link=topic=95290.msg1170827#msg1170827 date=1328219433] [quote author=Cheermom4 link=topic=95290.msg1170812#msg1170812 date=1328218315] [quote author=One4All link=topic=95290.msg1170803#msg1170803 date=1328217748] that's what you think........ Fact is : Rules are Rules ...... punishments 4 broken rules is what makes the difference....... [/quote] Facts don't matter when you own The House...... I don't understand what your saying?  I can't read between the lines here in all of this. [/quote] 2 people can break the same rules, but get different  punishments [/quote] Whom else broke the rules and do you have proof?  If so then go to STJFL if not then it is only hearsay. [/quote] Proof .. doesn't matter when you own The House!

[quote name="mikelbene" post="1170857" timestamp="1328221047"] I really felt for the Father who had to explain to his kid what those racist young white kids meant when they were dropping N bombs out there.  It made me think back to the time that I had to explain the N word to my kid....  "Look, Mike jr..... It's a horrible word used by some people to call a black person that points out centuries of unjust treatment and enslavement.  It's also a word used by rap artists to sell m-m-m-millions of  CDs, but that's different."  There's two different sets of rules, ain't there, One4all? I'm way off track, so forgive me.  Later. [/quote] Hey you Right .......different set , just be honest, live your life the same everyday,, don't change because certain people not around

if you don't believe punishments are not  the same, For the same  broken rule, you don't no the half  of what goes on.....

[quote name="thetragichippy" post="1170813" timestamp="1328218339"] [quote author=One4All link=topic=95290.msg1170805#msg1170805 date=1328217977] I know and understand that equal opportunity doesn't exist........ [/quote] BLAMER! and for you equal opportunity will NEVER exist...... [/quote] you're right because  I don't  live my life 2 separate ways....I'm For All people & kids

[quote name="Cheermom4" post="1170812" timestamp="1328218315"] [quote author=One4All link=topic=95290.msg1170803#msg1170803 date=1328217748] that's what you think........ Fact is : Rules are Rules ...... punishments 4 broken rules is what makes the difference....... [/quote] I don't understand what your saying?  I can't read between the lines here in all of this. [/quote] 2 people can break the same rules, but get different  punishments

I know and understand that equal opportunity doesn't exist........

that's what you think........ Fact is : Rules are Rules ...... punishments 4 broken rules is what makes the difference.......

I'm One for all , most people don't see it that way

[quote name="mikelbene" post="1170656" timestamp="1328211343"] ....or maybe you don't understand the difference between 1.  Drafting through a pool of kids and forming three (hopefully competive) teams from one metro area. 2.  Having all of the kids from the same area come together, tryout, then selecting the best thirty or so kids to play on a single team and sending everybody else home.  It's funny that the PA League chose not to let a bunch of their own kids play, and is now crying that their "chosen few" aren't allowed to play, either. [/quote] you're right........ different rules for  different people, rules are rules

[quote name="mikelbene" post="1170565" timestamp="1328208998"] There's a HUGE difference...... One city might have three teams like PNG, where you might have a coach's kid or two that are automatically going on a team, plus drafting through the rest of the kids taking the good along with the bad.  Some teams will end up with a game changer or two, other teams will have suspect coaching.... the teams' records will be varied. That's COMPLETELY different than having tryouts with God only knows how many kids are available, then selecting only the cream of the crop to represent your metropolitan area.  I mean, if you want to play select-style ball, then cherry-pick a team play select ball with a league of your choosing. PA asked to join the STJFL, ignored the rules that were in place long before they asked to be included, and now want to act butt-hurt that they aren't being included going forward.  It doesn't have anything to do with PA's kids or the way that they play, for that matter.  It's all about the PA board's unwillingness to follow league rules and guidelines. Good luck in whatever league you choose to play in next year. [/quote] Wow!!!!...... you just proved you really don't know what you're talking about......or you don't understand the statement you just made ..

[quote name="thetragichippy" post="1170201" timestamp="1328192466"] [quote author=Bobcat101 link=topic=95290.msg1170153#msg1170153 date=1328189855] You know what IceWater..... In my heart your on the mark. But I'm just waiting on all those to jump on the bandwagon and agree with you but then turn right around and strateically draft all the young kids this year and go winless for the great hope to be like IceWater and have a Superbowl trophy collecting dust the following year. My kids haven't won a football game in 2 years because thier coach haven't had the option to strategically draft. How do you think a kids feels when they go 0-8. Ask my kids. But at least that PNG coach can tell them, Son, We have to pay our dues for Coach to get his next year, toughen up kid! [/quote] That is a problem with your league or coach, not the STJFL.  Strategic drafting is pefectly legal as long as you follow the rules. [/quote] Lol!!!! No understanding .........follow the kids

[quote name="NorthoftheBorder" post="1168069" timestamp="1327936684"] [quote author=AggiesAreWe link=topic=95065.msg1167749#msg1167749 date=1327858955] PNG will be playing two 3A schools to start the season the next two years. Week 0    Silsbee Week 1      WOS [/quote] That's a big philosphy change for PNG. They generally use the philopshy of playing larger schools in pre district to prepare for district. [/quote] Wos &Silsbee will prepare them for district as well, larger doesn't always mean better

I heard That the Stjfl Never said or told p.a that........it was one organization