Bulldog97

His jersey was about ripped in half and wouldn't stay on so he changed.

Because you are a fellow Raider fan, I will be sweet. Of course they're playing their ?!$&@ starters. It's a district game with DC & playoff implications! Whew...

And yes, I care plenty.  I have a son playing in this program right now, and we aren't interested in participation medals.  However, regardless of how his high school career turns out or how many playoff wins he experiences I know he has experienced a program that will have a very positive impact on his life.  Your profile has you in Katy, so I'm not sure how invested you are in Vidor anymore.  For some of us it's more that chirping on a message board.

No, based on what you've said we are the same generation.  I know all about Interstate 10 years, and I know Sam and BJ.  My whole point was that you made this stand earlier about Jeff not "producing" D1 players.  Gooch -Latech... Culbert Arkansas... Gooch Texas Tech... BJ went to SMU but other than that you haven't named another D1 player in 60 years of Pirate football(and I'm sure there were more). I'm just pointing out that the town of Vidor is not a hotbed of D1 talent regardless of who is coaching.  
Jeff is a great coach and he has a system in place for the talent, size, and speed we have.  What system changes do you recommend?  And please be specific and explain how our current talent, size, and speed will be successful in that type of system.

Hey Lumberton, beat Nederland next week. We'll try to take care of Vidor. Help us Get a DC!!

So win at all costs. The cost of a good mans job, the cost of his family's prosperity, the cost of a group of boys being taught the right way... Is that what you mean?

A coach doesn't make division 1 athletes. He makes what he has better. If you haven't seen these young men get better than you and I aren't watching the same things.

unfortunately sometimes good kids don't make great athletes either

You don't get to recruit players in high school. At least not in these parts. Sometimes you have to have to play the hand you're dealt. The dummies that want the Vidor head coach gone are the same type of dummies who wanted Lumbertons Coach Credeur gone a few years ago after going undefeated and deeper into the playoffs than they ever had. I'll just say this. STUPID!!! Jeff is a great coach.