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I have seen these "simulations" with some touting them and others deriding them. 
To me these do not matter.  They are not for true predictive purpose but to get people talking about hypothetical (you could go almost as far as to say "mythical") match ups.  And in that respect, props to calpreps for at least on this forum they have certainly achieved their goal.
But again, it doesn't matter.  To be called a champion, WO-S will not have to beat The Woodlands, Lake Travis, De Soto or any school other than Sweetwater.  That is the only school which Cornel Thompson and the Mustang players are concerned about and the only one most Mustang fans are concerned about.

I want to tell some of the folks that really care a little about Sweetwater. What I saw last night was a little different. The wos fans keep taking about the slot T and how many times they have played it this year. What I saw last night was maybe different from anything I've seen in the past. Sweetwater runs completely out of the spread, but it is not a spread like y'all saw against Gilmer in 14'. I'm trying to describe it and what keeps coming to mind is a spread/slot t hybrid. The do a lot of not hiding the ball but hiding the receivers. They will roll someone to the backside on almost every play. It's not something you guys certainly can't overcome, it's just a little different than what I have seen. It's kinda like they took our offense and kicked it up a notch. 
 
With that said they are not big......at all. They got some shifty little runners that we didn't tackle very well. I don't think WOS will have that problem. I can see a game real close to the score of yalls last night game. They're tough country boys, but I think that Sweetwater is in for a rude awakening. One that we would probably have gotten had we been fortunate enough to win. Sometimes you got to just tip your cap!!!!

Ain't no crickets. I'm right here. I did get in at  2 in the morning though so sleep was a little more on my mind than a message board.

Also a ton of Barbers Hill on our side rooting for us! Two sat by me, very classy guys. Fun fact, one of them graduated in 92 from The Hill and asked if I knew Doc Collins. I forgot he went over there after leaving us. Now I can't call them Barbie Hill anymore, dang....lol

This is the hidden content, please Sign In or Sign Up A little reading from the Navarro side of the game. Thanks again from Tim Riggins for the assist.

Sorry we didn't hold up our end of the bargain. I never said we could beat you guys. Just said we wanted a chance. Sweetwater had our number last night. We were well scouted and it seemed as if they new every play. They dropped 8 guys into coverage early and for some reason we just completely gave up on the run . But anyway, there's no excuses from me. They kicked our tail and.made us like it. So good luck to the Mustangs next week. Both of them!!! I'll be watching on the TV. Time to go kill a truckload of deer now. 

How about that WO-S kicking game?
7 for 7 on XP's last night?

I'm still enjoying the victory last night. Honestly haven't asked but I'll find out later. Sitting here trying to make myself believe all of this is real. When these boys were very young we knew they were special. As they got to be 9, 10, and 11 the reality of what we thought was right before our eyes. We said back then that they had 2 State Championships in them. Now we've lost a few of those boys. A couple of them moved to Beaumont and actually one is visiting Yale this weekend to play football. The pride and joy that these boys have given me and a lot of other people is just amazing. I didn't mean to go on a rant about the boys but it's just what's on my mind right now. Can you even imagine? Three State appearance in a row. Not to mention a State appearance in baseball. Thanks for the ride fellas!!!!

Well, I'll be the first to oblige you.  We are facing a team that took down Gilmer, which until about 10:00 last night I thought provided the single biggest threat to a WO-S repeat.  The did so by playing some awesome offense sprinkled in with, although the score may not show it, some timely defense.
Am I confident that WO-S will take home a title? Yes, Will it be as easy as last night? Nope.

have to reload after this year

Good luck guys!! I'll be keeping up on my phone. Be heading to Waco in couple of hours. Safe travels to y'all.

Game day!
Good luck Mustangs!  See ya'll at NRG!

Keys to Success:
1.  Tradition? Hardly.  It helps for a team to have some, but not if the tradition includes losing.   Change to "Winning Tradition"
2.  Coaching Continuity?  Possibly..  But again... not if there is no success.  If your community/players NEVER or RARELY have to
     endure a change in coaching philosophy it is a big advantage.  There are no short learning curves in those programs. 
     One School...ahem....has 30+ years of coaching philosophy. 
3.  Talented Athletes?  No argument there.  A must, though at the High School Level, one truly gifted athlete gets you a big head start.
      Throw in 2, 3, 4, 5 at one time.  Good lord.  
4.  Community Support?  It helps tremendously.  No athlete can resist the roar of the crowd.  Its intoxicating.
     I personally believe that when talented athletes, not the gifted ones, stay in their community.
     Then encourage acceptance of a philosophy that was there before them, with them and will be there after them, then there can
     be no confusion of what is expected from them.   Success.  
 
Note:  There has to be multiple examples of success.   Championship trophies, collegiate players, professional players, etc.
           Those success stories have to continue to be part of the community to cement the winning philosophy.
 
For our area, West Orange-Stark got it right.  Lucky? Maybe, all winning traditions need a little luck here and there.
It doesn't matter.  That program has found what works for their community.  Why change it....
 
I love when WOS comes to town. It brings out the best in our athletes.    Enjoy their brand of football. 
The last three years of WOS football is kinda like the Greek Spartans of old. 
You can talk noise, no problem, but you'll probably end up at the bottom of a deep hole or piled up next to the others.
 
I'm done. Respect.
#TigerNation

This is what I need to happen, tonight a raiders win, tomorrow night at Mustang win and Sunday night and cowgirls lost can I go 3 for 3 it would make my week!!

Coaches had those in possession back in my day.....great motivator.

Unfortunately, coaches today are handcuffed by the "don't work my baby too hard" attitudes of the parents and cant really break these kids down and build that tough, aggressive, yet disciplined attitude that you see at "The WOS."  I know there have been some cases like at HF where the coaches decisions on punishment resulted in some kids being hospitalized but that is a rare occurrence.  I believe in corporal punishment and the use of the paddle....trust me IT WORKS!!! I have experienced it first hand.  Kids shouldn't relate punishment to having to do physical work.  Success and rewards should derive from physical work.  Physical pain should be the result of punishment. 
I cant say for sure but my guess is that "Ole' Woddy" still makes his presence known at WOS.  I know this may be a little off the beaten path but there is a direct correlation between the discipline of the athletes, the support of the community to trust in the coaches in the disciplining their kids, and the results of that showing on the field.  Fear is not a bad thing, it keeps you on your toes and keeps you sharp.  WOS uses that to their advantage by striking fear into their opponent. 
Those boys are tough, physical, disciplined and flat out nasty.  That doesn't happen because the coaches are walking on egg shells trying to avoid a lawsuit because lil Johnny came home crying because he got tackled too hard or he had to run until he puked.
That being said...you must have the horses, you must have leadership in the group, you must have coaches that players respect, you must have parents that trust in the system, and discipline must be instilled at a young age.   Right or wrong, its only my opinion.  If you want to figure out what it is holding your team back, take a look around.

Can it be Friday Night at NRG yet?? Who is ready for some good football??

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Glad y'all are coming! They do have speed but not like WOS. This is a tough team but WOS is like no other in 4a this year. Not an easy task but I believe WOS will handle Navarro quite better than some think. My prediction is WOS Scores more than 21, they don't allow more than 21, and they win by 21+. They are about to shock Navarro! Go Stangs!

I just now realized I posted this on the wrong topic lol
 

Strangely enough, Cornel Thompson would not be on that list.  However, I understand (I think) what you are saying with that question.  One of the factors of the success of the Mustang football program has been the continuity of the program from Steve McCarty to Dan Hooks, who was McCarty's right hand man to Thompson, who right hand man to Hooks.  And it does take this sort of continuity to establish a winning program.  This is because as sons and nephews of the original Mustangs know exactly what is expected of them when they show up to run that Mustang Mile and what it takes to earn a silver helmet.
And it is the community support for those standards which allows that continuity to remain.  Believe me there are some...you have seen some of them post here....who wish to take their shots at Coach Thompson.  Every community has their set of village idiots.  And he has not always had the golden touch.  I remember that it took 4 games for Coach Thompson to win his first game at WO-S as head coach and that he insisted on moving out of the spread to the I formation.  Even through all of those the community continued to trust Coach Thompson and believe that his decisions, his words and his action were intended for two purposes, to make the West Orange-Stark Mustangs a stronger football team and to make the individual members of that team better people.  You will never see Cornel Thompson saddled with a derogatory nickname from Mustang fans or you won't see "For Sale" signs in his yard after the next loss, which although I find unlikely, could occur as soon as this weekend.  You won't see people calling Orange County Sheriff Keith Merritt or seeking an investigation from Orange County DA John Kimbrough for practices that parents think are "a little too strenous."  You won't because even those who might not care for Coach Thompson respect him in the community.
And of course, you need stellar athletes.  Coach Thompson has acknowledged that himself that you need that. hence the now infamous statement that "You can't win the Kentucky Derby with a mule."  And yes, this band of athletes is special, on both sides of the ball, in the backfield, on the line and in the secondary and many of them have played together since they were 5 years old. They are not only talented, but they are some of the most grounded, hardest working and intelligent young men you will ever want to meet.  They don't need to be prompted by coaches to get work in during the months of January, February or March, they are already doing it on their own.  And guess what, the Mustangs that are coming behind them are preparing the same way.  Will they be able to continue what this class of Mustangs have done even if that run ends this weekend?  The answer to that question we won't know until about this time next year or the next few years after.
But it will be certainly fun to find out and those in the community will be as proud of their effort to do so as they are of these young men who have been taking Mustang fans on this fantastic ride.

Reagan, this years teams from 21-5a and 22-5a were quality teams. Some won come playoff time and others didn't. There is quality players and coaches in these districts. Unfortunately,  5a and 6a in our area have struggled to get deep in the playoffs. The area still turns out good college players. I found that as the years go on, there's an abundance of really good teams you have to face in the playoffs. Some area's get two rounds of nobody's to play in the playoffs. This area has drawn the short straw for a while where you're playing some of better teams in 2nd round.

in wos the whole community has bought into the program-and supports the disciplined contained within- the ones that dont transfer out 

I will finally get to see the 2016 Mustangs at NRG.
WOS by 14. Go 'Stangs!

WO-S fans are truly grateful for the support of other schools for this game, especially those in our own district and throughout the Golden Triangle. I have one request for these other schools - wear your team's colors and/or jackets so we can identify you. We want to thank you when you are spotted at the game. We want to pack our side of the stadium and make more noise than the Navarro side. Again, the support is much appreciated.