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[quote name="Dick Vitale" post="1186534" timestamp="1330349163"] [quote author=stevenash link=topic=96704.msg1186507#msg1186507 date=1330338569] [quote author=Dick Vitale link=topic=96704.msg1186481#msg1186481 date=1330317015] It's NEDERLAND....at the end of the day... 8) [/quote] Well, as you say, "it's Nederland" and since it is "Nederland at the end of the day", I am in total shock that you haven't jumped ALL OVER my financial offer since the outcome is seemingly cut and dried. [/quote] I gotcha Nash......that bet is fine with me...I was pre occupied with all of the ridiculous statements made my the Nederland contingent, thinking for some reason they should be the "favorite" in their game against Ozen.... ::)....and had the AUDACITY to be mad about it! Ridiculous... 8) [/quote] Dicky- just for the sake of confirmation:  Our new bet (which replaces the original one) will consist of me taking Nederland plus 5 points and me giving you 5-1 odds by betting $100 against $20.  Is that the way you understand it? ( you know I will pay promptly if I lose)

[quote name="Dick Vitale" post="1186481" timestamp="1330317015"] It's NEDERLAND....at the end of the day... 8) [/quote] Well, as you say, "it's Nederland" and since it is "Nederland at the end of the day", I am in total shock that you haven't jumped ALL OVER my financial offer since the outcome is seemingly cut and dried.

[quote name="LAZEEK" post="1186451" timestamp="1330313933"] [quote author=stevenash link=topic=96650.msg1186431#msg1186431 date=1330311687] [quote author=BADSANTA link=topic=96650.msg1186430#msg1186430 date=1330311561] [quote author=LAZEEK link=topic=96650.msg1186426#msg1186426 date=1330311260] [quote author=stevenash link=topic=96650.msg1186423#msg1186423 date=1330311143] [quote author=BADSANTA link=topic=96650.msg1186416#msg1186416 date=1330310630] It's going to be very difficult for both HJ and Silsbee to meet up. Lot of tough ball ahead of each team. If they do meet up I'd like to see Nash wear a [b]"I'm a Democrate for LIFE"[/b] shirt! [/quote] Sorry but I can't do that.  I am one of those "less than enlightened" people who believes that one should pay their own way instead of having the government pay for me at the expense of another person.  I plan on wearing one that says "Lose the taunt cause it will eventually haunt" [/quote] ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D [/quote] So what are you saying? [/quote] I'm saying I wont wear a t shirt that says I'm a Democrat for life. [/quote] But Nash will you wear one that says "I am a [b]DEMOCRATE[/b] FOR LIFE"? [/quote] No because I have this thing about poor spelling that will preclude any concerns regarding party affiliation.

Those 4 consecutive wins trouble me.

I noticed where a number 1 seed is picked to lose to a # 3 seed.  Therefore, Dicky V, I see no way you can resist the forthcoming offer.  We have already agreed to a $20 bet where you and Soulja are both taking Ozen.  My only requirement was that if I lost, I wanted Soulja to deliver the $ to you so you won't hassle me about the loss.  I want to offer you an opportunity to enhance your proceeds.  The total points scored between Ozen and Nederland in their two games was 93 for Ozen and 88 for Nederland.  Therefore, if you would like to give me Nederland plus 5, I am offering to replace our original bet with a new bet where I put up $100 to your $20 in exchange for being given 5 points.  If you prefer the original bet, that is ok with me but since you are particularly confident about the outcome, I thought you would prefer to make $100 instead of $20 while putting only $20 at risk in either case.

The saying on that shirt is good advice for anyone who plays high school basketball, particularly anyone who has taunted or who believes taunting is a productive effort. 

[quote name="Dick Vitale" post="1186442" timestamp="1330312361"] [quote author=stevenash link=topic=96657.msg1186428#msg1186428 date=1330311342] [quote author=Dick Vitale link=topic=96657.msg1186411#msg1186411 date=1330310166] [quote author=stevenash link=topic=96657.msg1186409#msg1186409 date=1330309932] Absolutely not coincidental.  Those two young men had no size and ability whatsoever and if they had not been coached by a particular individual, they would not have made it to the NBA because no other coach has that ability.  Just as an aside, I have a very close physician friend who grew up in Port Arthur and knows the basketball scene very very well.  He told me about a player from that area who was a high school All American whom he recently observed rummaging through a dumpster.  Maybe the thought of that concerned the young man who transferred to Vidor. [/quote] Jokes aside, thats truly a sad siutation...On a different note, there were SEVERAL players with size and talent that were NOT coached by this individual, that did not make it to that plateau....still a coincidence? 8) [/quote] If you want to go that route, this individual has coached a myriad of players with size and talent who also did not make it to the NBA.  Karl Malone and Joe Dumars were not NBA players because of their high school coaches.  If J'Covan gets drafted, will it be because of Rick Barnes or does credit go to Knowles and Henderson? [/quote] Not looking for credit...just acknowledgement of the fact...or coincidence...However you would like to deem it... 8) [/quote] I will be more than happy to acknowledge the fact that both of these players played for a particular coach.  I am, at the same time, not convinced that they couldnt have achieved what they have if they had been coached by someone else.

[quote name="BLUEDOVE3" post="1186434" timestamp="1330311832"] [quote author=stevenash link=topic=96657.msg1186409#msg1186409 date=1330309932] Absolutely not coincidental.  Those two young men had no size and ability whatsoever and if they had not been coached by a particular individual, they would not have made it to the NBA because no other coach has that ability.  Just as an aside, I have a very close physician friend who grew up in Port Arthur and knows the basketball scene very very well.  He told me about a player from that area who was a high school All American whom he recently observed rummaging through a dumpster.  Maybe the thought of that concerned the young man who transferred to Vidor. [/quote]LOL! Wow! I was with one of those former NBA players [color=red]tonite[/color] in Houston. And trust me, he didn't look like he had been digging out of a dumpster. [/quote] If you will double check, I was referring to a High School All American who obviously never got to earn an NBA salary.  But I can show you a number of NBA stars who severely mismanaged their $ and are effectively broke. [Hidden Content]

[quote name="BADSANTA" post="1186430" timestamp="1330311561"] [quote author=LAZEEK link=topic=96650.msg1186426#msg1186426 date=1330311260] [quote author=stevenash link=topic=96650.msg1186423#msg1186423 date=1330311143] [quote author=BADSANTA link=topic=96650.msg1186416#msg1186416 date=1330310630] It's going to be very difficult for both HJ and Silsbee to meet up. Lot of tough ball ahead of each team. If they do meet up I'd like to see Nash wear a "I'm a Democrate for LIFE" shirt! [/quote] Sorry but I can't do that.  I am one of those "less than enlightened" people who believes that one should pay their own way instead of having the government pay for me at the expense of another person.  I plan on wearing one that says "Lose the taunt cause it will eventually haunt" [/quote] ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D [/quote] So what are you saying? [/quote] I'm saying I wont wear a t shirt that says I'm a Democrat for life.

[quote name="Dick Vitale" post="1186411" timestamp="1330310166"] [quote author=stevenash link=topic=96657.msg1186409#msg1186409 date=1330309932] Absolutely not coincidental.  Those two young men had no size and ability whatsoever and if they had not been coached by a particular individual, they would not have made it to the NBA because no other coach has that ability.  Just as an aside, I have a very close physician friend who grew up in Port Arthur and knows the basketball scene very very well.  He told me about a player from that area who was a high school All American whom he recently observed rummaging through a dumpster.  Maybe the thought of that concerned the young man who transferred to Vidor. [/quote] Jokes aside, thats truly a sad siutation...On a different note, there were SEVERAL players with size and talent that were NOT coached by this individual, that did not make it to that plateau....still a coincidence? 8) [/quote] If you want to go that route, this individual has coached a myriad of players with size and talent who also did not make it to the NBA.  Karl Malone and Joe Dumars were not NBA players because of their high school coaches.  If J'Covan gets drafted, will it be because of Rick Barnes or does credit go to Knowles and Henderson?

[quote name="BADSANTA" post="1186416" timestamp="1330310630"] It's going to be very difficult for both HJ and Silsbee to meet up. Lot of tough ball ahead of each team. If they do meet up I'd like to see Nash wear a "I'm a Democrate for LIFE" shirt! [/quote] Sorry but I can't do that.  I am one of those "less than enlightened" people who believes that one should pay their own way instead of having the government pay for me at the expense of another person.  I plan on wearing one that says "Lose the taunt cause it will eventually haunt"

[quote name="Dick Vitale" post="1186399" timestamp="1330309454"] [quote author=BADSANTA link=topic=96650.msg1186396#msg1186396 date=1330309229] [quote author=LAZEEK link=topic=96650.msg1186393#msg1186393 date=1330309068] [quote author=BADSANTA link=topic=96650.msg1186389#msg1186389 date=1330308716] Not the point! I stated they weren't affaid to play anyone anywhere unlike some schools! Silsbee played 2 highly ranked 4A teams and some very strong 5A's. Playing in the YmBl would have gave them the opportunity to play a few ranked 5A's. [/quote] Well once again the ALMIGHTY Tigers did this, and did that!!! ::) ::) ::) [/quote] Where no match for the mighty Hawks and their championships! [/quote] According to my friend stevenash, champioships really don't matter...or something like that he has said!! 8)...If you can be CO-Champs in district, you should be considered as one of the "Elites"....right, Nash? ::) ::) [quote author=stevenash link=topic=96650.msg1186397#msg1186397 date=1330309321] [quote author=Dick Vitale link=topic=96650.msg1186379#msg1186379 date=1330308243] [quote author=bullets13 link=topic=96650.msg1186357#msg1186357 date=1330306292] [quote author=stevenash link=topic=96650.msg1186349#msg1186349 date=1330306006] [quote author=bullets13 link=topic=96650.msg1186336#msg1186336 date=1330304417] [quote author=Silsbeealum14 link=topic=96650.msg1186180#msg1186180 date=1330278646] Stevenash only knows HJ basketball and I guarantee if HJ lose Tuesday and Silsbee wins, he will be humping like a dog to jump on Silsbee bandwagon !!! Stevenash, just admit that you hate Silsbee basketball... "Say It".....  If anybody says anything good about Silsbee, you always have something negative to say.... [/quote] if he hates silsbee basketball, why would he "hump like a dog" to jump on the silsbee bandwagon?  i know for a fact that nash has much respect for Silsbee basketball. [/quote] Hold it Bullets- If anyone from the political forum sees you defending me, they are going to believe the end of the world is imminent. ;D [/quote] nah, i think most people who know us well, either from on or off the board, [b]know we're the type of folks that can debate on here and still be cordial when we see each other, and agree on other things :)[/b][/quote] Even ME!! ;D ;D....Although most on here would not believe it!! 8) [/quote] Come on, Dicky.  You know darn well you are wearing an "I hate Steve Nash" T-shirt.  It's ok.  That kind of stuff is what makes the world go round. [/quote] I cut the yard in mine!!!  ;D ;D [/quote] Yes, I think being Champs or Co-Champs of a district is a particularly good accomplishment if your program has been in the dumper for many years.  One thing with which you  have had no experience or exposure to Dicky is taking a program from a position that is less than zero and the people to whom you refer have done just that.  I believe they deserve credit for it and not marginalized credit.  If Yates wins the Cross Country or Swimming Championships in Houston, I believe that would be a very notable accomplishment and whoever had been winning those championships would be wrong to try to belittle or look down upon that accomplishment simply because they believe it should be their exclusive property in perpetuity.  I know this will probably make you buy a couple more of those lawn mowing t-shirts.  Wear them with pride.  There are probably a lot of them in circulation.

Absolutely not coincidental.  Those two young men had no size and ability whatsoever and if they had not been coached by a particular individual, they would not have made it to the NBA because no other coach has that ability.  Just as an aside, I have a very close physician friend who grew up in Port Arthur and knows the basketball scene very very well.  He told me about a player from that area who was a high school All American whom he recently observed rummaging through a dumpster.  Maybe the thought of that concerned the young man who transferred to Vidor.

[quote name="BADSANTA" post="1186391" timestamp="1330308966"] Somebody transferred to Vidor for basketball? Awesome! [/quote] Yes, there was one guy who understood he probably was not going to make it in the NBA and he needed to prepare himself properly for that eventuality.  The country could use a few more like him. 

[quote name="Dick Vitale" post="1186379" timestamp="1330308243"] [quote author=bullets13 link=topic=96650.msg1186357#msg1186357 date=1330306292] [quote author=stevenash link=topic=96650.msg1186349#msg1186349 date=1330306006] [quote author=bullets13 link=topic=96650.msg1186336#msg1186336 date=1330304417] [quote author=Silsbeealum14 link=topic=96650.msg1186180#msg1186180 date=1330278646] Stevenash only knows HJ basketball and I guarantee if HJ lose Tuesday and Silsbee wins, he will be humping like a dog to jump on Silsbee bandwagon !!! Stevenash, just admit that you hate Silsbee basketball... "Say It".....  If anybody says anything good about Silsbee, you always have something negative to say.... [/quote] if he hates silsbee basketball, why would he "hump like a dog" to jump on the silsbee bandwagon?  i know for a fact that nash has much respect for Silsbee basketball. [/quote] Hold it Bullets- If anyone from the political forum sees you defending me, they are going to believe the end of the world is imminent. ;D [/quote] nah, i think most people who know us well, either from on or off the board, [b]know we're the type of folks that can debate on here and still be cordial when we see each other, and agree on other things :)[/b][/quote] Even ME!! ;D ;D....Although most on here would not believe it!! 8) [/quote] Come on, Dicky.  You know darn well you are wearing an "I hate Steve Nash" T-shirt.  It's ok.  That kind of stuff is what makes the world go round.

If they did, you would simply tell them how insignificant a district title is.

[quote name="Dick Vitale" post="1186350" timestamp="1330306016"] I hate to debate on here actually....its pointless....and according to your avatar you're from Vidor, so arguing with you about sports would be even worse...Have you guys ever won in ANYTHING?  :o [/quote] I know of several world class musicians/entertainers that are from Vidor.

[quote name="Silsbeealum14" post="1186348" timestamp="1330305985"] Go somewhere with that bullet13, I think you and Stevenash are brothers cause y'all both haters !!! There's room 4 you to on the bandwagon.... [/quote] Immeasurable eloquence.

[quote name="bullets13" post="1186336" timestamp="1330304417"] [quote author=Silsbeealum14 link=topic=96650.msg1186180#msg1186180 date=1330278646] Stevenash only knows HJ basketball and I guarantee if HJ lose Tuesday and Silsbee wins, he will be humping like a dog to jump on Silsbee bandwagon !!! Stevenash, just admit that you hate Silsbee basketball... "Say It".....  If anybody says anything good about Silsbee, you always have something negative to say.... [/quote] if he hates silsbee basketball, why would he "hump like a dog" to jump on the silsbee bandwagon?  i know for a fact that nash has much respect for Silsbee basketball. [/quote] Hold it Bullets- If anyone from the political forum sees you defending me, they are going to believe the end of the world is imminent. ;D

This could be regarded as cause for concern.

[quote name="Dick Vitale" post="1186289" timestamp="1330297917"] [quote author=5 on 5 link=topic=96684.msg1186284#msg1186284 date=1330297426] By the way DV, why are you not asking Central...and Ozen...the question you keep asking Nederland....Can you (Central or Ozen) switch brackets with Yates and survive? That seems to be a very important question to you, so the answer is.....WHO CARES (other than you)? [/quote] Because Central and Ozen have both at least regional championship trophies in the old case... ::)....PLUS many district OUTRIGHT titles...no sharing....that's why...  8)....dead issue guys....next topic please. [/quote] District Titles-  Come on, man.  We have all been told how meaningless they are!!!!!!

[quote name="Dick Vitale" post="1186277" timestamp="1330296623"] To have the gall to say that "champions live in Nederland" speaks volumes to that fact.... ::) ::)...NO Title Town.... ;) [/quote] The word Champions has a much broader definition to the enlightened.

[quote name="NB-Dawg" post="1186258" timestamp="1330292779"] [quote author=BMTSoulja1 link=topic=96684.msg1186241#msg1186241 date=1330288317] [quote author=NB-Dawg link=topic=96684.msg1186233#msg date=1330286781] [quote author=BMTSoulja1 link=topic=96684.msg1186215#msg date=1330285030] [quote author=stevenash link=topic=96684.msg1186140#msg date=1330274441] [quote author=BMTSoulja1 link=topic=96684.msg1186136#msg date=1330274026] [quote author=stevenash link=topic=96684.msg1186129#msg date=1330273375] According to some, the fact that HJ beat them means you dont need any info because Hj "didn't play anybody". From my perspective, they will be an interesting foe for you because I view them as equally athletic as the Jags. [/quote]Equally athletic?  Interesting. What about their size?  King and Brenham were just as athletic as us as well, but we had the size and length advantage. [/quote] If my memory is correct, Central should be a little larger overall than KP. [/quote]Ok.  Thanks for the info. [/quote] KW Park plays like Nederland. Very similar personnel as well. Central is longer and more athletic, IMO. KW Park is 'smart' and relies on fundamental basketball. If they get hot from outside, watch out. [/quote]So, are thet consistent from the outside or are they streaky?  Do they shoot 3's in volume or shoot less with a hig percentage? [/quote] Kinda like Nederland. If they are hot, they are hard to beat (unless we r playing Yates  ::) ). If not, then they struggle to win. Have only seen them twice, but that's I gathered and I confirmed that with a couple of others who scouted them. [/quote] Come on, Dog.  You don't know anything!!!!

Athens just got back one of their top players who missed most of the season.  Those who have seen them during the regular season probably dont realize they are considerably better at this point.

IF Nederland wins its next game, I want you to instruct Coach English to voice the following disclaimer if anyone from the media interviews him: " We have no cause to celebrate because we really haven't accomplished anything by being atop the district for two consecutive years and winning two or three playoff games.  After all, we don't "belong" in this position and it was only fortuitous circumstances that allowed us to get here"