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[quote name="BLUEDOVE3" post="1195162" timestamp="1331330022"] Aggie, we need the link again to watch games ;D ;D [/quote] same link as before

[quote name="Dick Vitale" post="1195070" timestamp="1331323302"] The lower classification games, honestly, in some years here at the state tourney, are the more competitive games...guys  all around the same size, battling it out!!  8)....good stuff...and I am a big city guy! ;) [/quote] Yessssssssssss

Here's why I like smaller school games, esp at State: 1) the whole town shows up, many with 2-tone, painted faces, even the 3-yr olds....gotta love that spirit. You could burglarize the whole town on game day at State. 2) H-E-A-R-T! the 5'1" pg, the 5'11" posts playing their guts out. They KNOW this is the last time they'll ever wear the blue-and-gold, or red-and-white or whatever, but they'll live in that town forever. No dunks, way less swagga' (ant that's a GOOD thing). BTW, any 3A fans here wonder if 5A fans say the same derogatory things about y'all? cuz there ain't NO 3A's that can hang with 5A's at State.

[quote name="ST413" post="1194644" timestamp="1331264752"] [quote author=homeless link=topic=97278.msg1194638#msg1194638 date=1331264388] [quote author=setxslam link=topic=97278.msg1194498#msg1194498 date=1331250781] This reaffirms my suspicion WLV would've finished third in 21-3A this year. [/quote] Pure sentimentality. Zero evidence, unless you're suggesting 21-3A choked when it counted. For the record, I don't think they choked. They both merely lost to a better team. Wishing it weren't so doesn't make it so. Please try to separate sentiment from reality. [/quote] They definitely won both games.  And my Tigers shouldn't have been in a position to lose at the end,  but losing at least a 2 point lead on what was a missed call with 10 seconds to play [u][b]makes it hard to say the better team won. [/b][/u] [/quote] Only hard because of your sentimentality. I understand it, identified it, but....There's still NO EVIDENCE to the contrary. Only wishing.

[quote name="BLUEDOVE3" post="1194294" timestamp="1331237012"] [quote author=ST413 link=topic=97121.msg1194247#msg1194247 date=1331232981] Maybe so but after sering them this year both numbers and numbers of skilled players play a part. I dont see any of our area teams with enough numbers or skilled players to be able to play a 6'6 player outside.  Especially starting one 6'7 post and a 6'6 player outside with the skills of Santee. [/quote] Santee is an example of hard work put in. Much better than the last time I saw him. [/quote] Still takes too many 3's

[quote name="setxslam" post="1194498" timestamp="1331250781"] This reaffirms my suspicion WLV would've finished third in 21-3A this year. [/quote] Pure sentimentality. Zero evidence, unless you're suggesting 21-3A choked when it counted. For the record, I don't think they choked. They both merely lost to a better team. Wishing it weren't so doesn't make it so. Please try to separate sentiment from reality.

[quote name="AggiesAreWe" post="1194446" timestamp="1331246655"] This is a very sloppy game!! LV has missed several point blank shots. [/quote] State Tourney jitters. VERRRRY common

[quote name="AggiesAreWe" post="1194624" timestamp="1331263770"] Halftime Ryan        25 Yates        46 [/quote] Nash is hating this

[quote name="BLUEDOVE3" post="1194612" timestamp="1331263318"] [quote author=homeless link=topic=97278.msg1194607#msg1194607 date=1331262816] [quote author=ozensfinest link=topic=97278.msg1194560#msg1194560 date=1331257995] That frazier kid whooooooo he's pretty good [/quote] Recruited [/quote]He lives in Kimball's attendance zone. [/quote]Recruited from Irving. And he will be the best player on the floor in the Final

[quote name="ozensfinest" post="1194560" timestamp="1331257995"] That frazier kid whooooooo he's pretty good [/quote] Recruited

Prudhomme HJ Elam, Silsbee Reed, Silsbee Holmes, Silsbee Johnson, HJ Gaines, Silsbee Bosha, HJ Persohn, HJ Wilson, Silsbee Which are Seniors?

[quote name="5gallonbucket" post="1192523" timestamp="1330971268"] wow is all i can say about coach of the year. I believe English should have gotten this.  Had less to work with, lost alot of seniors and no one expected them to do as good as they did. [/quote] Yes, English.....and not even a close call

[quote name="stevenash" post="1193900" timestamp="1331165709"] [quote author=homeless link=topic=96967.msg1193874#msg1193874 date=1331163401] [quote author=stevenash link=topic=96967.msg1193866#msg1193866 date=1331163085] For sure.  If you won 2 close games, there is no evidence that you didn't win 2 close games. [/quote] Clarification: there is no evidence -- besides sentiment -- that the losers of those 2 games are better than the team that beat them. [/quote] No doubt about that.  As stated earlier, this is true about all games, wouldnt you agree? [/quote] Agree wholeheartedly, but since this is the LV vs HJ thread.....

[quote name="stevenash" post="1193866" timestamp="1331163085"] For sure.  If you won 2 close games, there is no evidence that you didn't win 2 close games. [/quote] Clarification: there is no evidence -- besides sentiment -- that the losers of those 2 games are better than the team that beat them.

[quote name="BLUEDOVE3" post="1193845" timestamp="1331160297"] [quote author=homeless link=topic=97071.msg1193841#msg1193841 date=1331159424] [quote author=BADSANTA link=topic=97071.msg1192764#msg1192764 date=1330994295] Yates get beat by Kimball DV! How's that sound? [/quote] Either way, recruiting wins since -- recruitng-wise -- Kimball is the "Yates of Dallas" 4A [/quote]You meant "talent" wins.  ;) [/quote] clarification: recruited talent beats homegrown talent. Why would anyone recruit untalented players?

[quote name="stevenash" post="1193843" timestamp="1331159913"] Or possibly they simply won 2 close games. [/quote] There is no evidence to the contrary. Just sentiment

[quote name="BADSANTA" post="1192764" timestamp="1330994295"] Yates get beat by Kimball DV! How's that sound? [/quote] Either way, recruiting wins since -- recruitng-wise -- Kimball is the "Yates of Dallas" 4A

[quote name="stevenash" post="1193672" timestamp="1331132476"] [quote author=homeless link=topic=96967.msg1193626#msg1193626 date=1331126326] HJ simply lost to a better team last week.  LV is just a better team than HJ this yr. There is no evidence to the contrary, only sentiment. [/quote] Same applies to ALL games played at the HJ Xmas tourney [/quote] Of course it does.

[quote name="LAZEEK" post="1193665" timestamp="1331131185"] [quote author=homeless link=topic=96967.msg1193626#msg1193626 date=1331126326] HJ simply lost to a better team last week.  LV is just a better team than HJ this yr. There is no evidence to the contrary, only sentiment. [/quote] So did Silsbee lose to the better team as well??? [/quote] Yes, LV better than Silsbee and HJ.

HJ simply lost to a better team last week.  LV is just a better team than HJ this yr. There is no evidence to the contrary, only sentiment.

[quote name="AggiesAreWe" post="1191990" timestamp="1330837829"] [quote author=Dick Vitale link=topic=97071.msg1191982#msg1191982 date=1330835979] The matchups will not be determined until Sunday morning...I doubt they will seed Yates and Kimball in the semi....they will likely be seeded 1 and 2 and meet in the final. [/quote] What happened to the seeding you described? Yates and Kimball could play in a semifinal. The top two seeds are determined by win %. Those two are San Antonio Alamo Heights at 33-2 and Yates at 32-5. Kimball is 31-5 while Denton Ryan is 23-11. Depending on the coin flip, Yates and Kimball could square off in a semifinal game. I am hoping they do not and meet in the finals. [/quote]

[quote name="NB-Dawg" post="1192082" timestamp="1330880460"] It was said that FB Travis recruits as does The Woodlands. I have no way of proving it either way, and I doubt anyone does. However, the reason people don't bring it up, IMO, is bc if you look at FB teams, Travis is not the ONLY good team. Last year it was FB Hightower and FB Bush. Same as The Woodlands. TW now has TWHS and TW College Park. BOTH schools are very good. If you go watch TW schools, they usually don't have phenomenal 'stand out' players. They usually don't have D1 players on their basketball team. They are fundamentally sound, so the idea that recruiting is going on is unlikely. Now take a look at the other schools in Yates' District. They are very unimpressive. Some of the schools in that district losing to Yates by 100++!! In addition, Yates was the only school this year to make it out of the 2nd round in the playoffs. It seems that Yates attracts the best talent in that district, and the other schools get the left overs per se. [/quote] Glover (a "C-" coach at best) at Bellaire has been a big recruiter for years. Notice how Bellaire dropped off talent-wise just as Yates began to rise. These two things are not a coincidence.

[quote name="setxslam" post="1191888" timestamp="1330826483"] Anything can happen in the playoffs.  Waco LV is going to State, and[b][u] I believe they might've finished third in 21-3A.[/u][/b]  Ah, well, there it is.  Heckuva year.  That's a great thing about high school basketball: the season always ends with terrible sadness or ultimate joy and, either way, you can't wait for it to start all over again. [/quote] What evidence is that based on?

Wise

[quote name="BADSANTA" post="1192037" timestamp="1330872277"] Dude Yates recruits just like La Marque, PNG, Duncanville, The Woodlands, Travis, and Canyon. It happens and no one will do anything about it. This is what high school ball has turned too. [/quote] So true. The HJ folks don't yet know what its like to go against big city recruiting machines like Yates. But, like others, they will find out. Oh, and you left out Kimball, Flower Mound Marcus, all the Ft Bend schools....Agreed, this is what high school has turned into.....thanks to AAU. As for Yates next year, don't bother looking at returners on this yr's roster. The roster will look quite different next year. Recruiting season hasn't even begun yet.