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[quote name="bullets13" post="953140" timestamp="1295739347"] Even though last year's team was very good, this team is better for a few reasons: this team has more scorers than last year. Tristan Thomas is WAY better than Dexter Pittman, and Jordan Hamilton is unstoppable.  J Brown has been fantastic this year, and has cut his turnovers way down.  Corey Joseph also scores in bunches. Defense: the horns' D was good last year, but they're one of the best in the nation this year.  Balbay and Brown lock down opposing point guards, Hamilton shuts down the wings, and Thomas and Gary Johnson own the paint.  The Morris twins had to work their butts off today to COMBINE for 26 points and 12 boards on only 8-24 shooting. Composure: This team was able to come back from as deep as a 15-point deficit, and a 12-point halftime deficit to win against what many people feel is the best team in the country.  Last year's team would've folded like a lawnchair.  This team IS good enough to win a national championship, because they can beat ANYONE in the country. [/quote] 8)

[quote name="LAZEEK" post="953173" timestamp="1295745328"] HJ record vs classification not including district: 5A          0-0 4A          8-3 (Beat Calhoun twice, Greg-Port., Dayton, Lumberton, LCM, Corsicana, Kingsville, Lost to                              Nederland, Central and LCM) 3A          2-0 (Lufkin Hudson and Aransas Pass) 2A          8-0 (Beat NW, Kountze, Hitchcock, Anahuac, Luling, EC twice and Tatum) 1A          2-1 (Beat Evadale and Cayuga by 19, lost to Cayuga by 1) Private    2-0 (Kelly and Legacy) 11 games in 4A and 15 in 3A and lower.  And I can promise each and every team that HJ played in 3A or lower will make the playoffs with the exception of maybe Luling. Hardly and weak schedule. ::) ::) ::) ::) [/quote] The point I was making was more towards the fact that HJ lost all its games to legit teams this year (Im trying not to disrespect some teams too much) Nederland, Central, and Silsbee... Maybe LCM on a good day  ;) Like I said, I will stop the hate on HJ if they beat Silsbee and/or make it back to play Silsbee for a 3rd time.. Until then, I wont be proven otherwise because there is no evidence on the schedule

[quote name="AggiesAreWe" post="953101" timestamp="1295735298"] [quote author=setxslam link=topic=79121.msg953063#msg953063 date=1295731689] I hope HJ plays Nederland for a playoff warm-up game-- if it's not Silsbee, of course. [/quote] Not likely to happen with Nederland. 5A and 4A take four teams to the playoffs, no bye in the playoffs. They all, including district champ, play in the first round. Usually only teams with a bye will schedule a warm up game. [/quote] Nederland might get a warm-up game since the game against Humble Christian Life got cancelled

[quote name="LAZEEK" post="953070" timestamp="1295732254"] [quote author=dogs1218 link=topic=79121.msg953058#msg953058 date=1295731240] [quote author=FanintheStands link=topic=79121.msg953049#msg953049 date=1295729594] [quote author=Tiger05 link=topic=79121.msg952910#msg952910 date=1295708927] [quote author=dogs1218 link=topic=79121.msg952831#msg952831 date=1295675428] [quote author=86hawk link=topic=79121.msg952825#msg952825 date=1295674805] Fans like Nash are probably a reason why some don't like HJ.  I made the prediction, as did other HJ followers, that Silsbee would beat HJ. So what? I am inclined to think that if WOS pulled off the upset tonight, Dog would have better class. [/quote] [size=12pt][b]To be honest, it is people like Nash that really make others not want to like HJ[/b][/size]..  ;) I thought that WOS would come out fired and up and be running and gunning on HJ.. Obviously I was wrong, and it looks like HJ played with alot of emotion after the loss to Silsbee and maybe had something to prove about their team.. Sometimes you pick right.. and sometimes you dont.. [/quote] Agree 100%  ;D [/quote]Of course, the fact that HJ keeps rolling along may also contribute to this feeling, eh?  ;) [/quote] [b]Playing those kinds of teams?[/b]  ::) They are just "rolling along", hitting the the occasional Silsbee speed bump along the way, or any other legit team they play (like earlier before district)  :D [/quote] Wait you picked one of "THOSE KINDS OF TEAMS" to beat HJ last night in WOS.......and how did that turn out???? Listen the district that Nederland is in is not that much better.  Nederland is the cream of the crop this year and Ozen (down year), Central, LCM and then 4 teams that are pathetic at best in Livingston, Vidor, PNG and Lumberton.  So don't talk about competition!!!!! [/quote] I didnt say WOS was one of those teams..  ??? I said they are good 11-12 team and dont take them lightly.. I know Nederland is on top right now, but go look where they played before District.. Has HJ played in an actual tournament to challenge them? Why doesnt HJ go to the YMBL? How about take on some 4A and 5A teams? I agree that we dont play in a top-to-bottom stacked district, but Ned challenged itself before district to better themselves.. HJ record is sky high now because they hit the soft part of their schedule. What was going on earlier this season? Want to still say it wasw injuries? Or key people not back yet for some reason? They lost because those teams were better and out-played them, but since they are rolling in district, no HJ person wants to remember that. Same can be said about Nederland. They lost quite their games because the other team outplayed them and a few times because Nederland blew the lead. I wont comment anymore about HJ if they beat Silsbee. I promise on that one.  ;)

[quote name="FanintheStands" post="953049" timestamp="1295729594"] [quote author=Tiger05 link=topic=79121.msg952910#msg952910 date=1295708927] [quote author=dogs1218 link=topic=79121.msg952831#msg952831 date=1295675428] [quote author=86hawk link=topic=79121.msg952825#msg952825 date=1295674805] Fans like Nash are probably a reason why some don't like HJ.  I made the prediction, as did other HJ followers, that Silsbee would beat HJ. So what? I am inclined to think that if WOS pulled off the upset tonight, Dog would have better class. [/quote] [size=12pt][b]To be honest, it is people like Nash that really make others not want to like HJ[/b][/size]..  ;) I thought that WOS would come out fired and up and be running and gunning on HJ.. Obviously I was wrong, and it looks like HJ played with alot of emotion after the loss to Silsbee and maybe had something to prove about their team.. Sometimes you pick right.. and sometimes you dont.. [/quote] Agree 100%  ;D [/quote]Of course, the fact that HJ keeps rolling along may also contribute to this feeling, eh?  ;) [/quote] Playing those kinds of teams?  ::) They are just "rolling along", hitting the the occasional Silsbee speed bump along the way, or any other legit team they play (like earlier before district)  :D

[quote name="86hawk" post="952825" timestamp="1295674805"] Fans like Nash are probably a reason why some don't like HJ.  I made the prediction, as did other HJ followers, that Silsbee would beat HJ. So what? I am inclined to think that if WOS pulled off the upset tonight, Dog would have better class. [/quote] To be honest, it is people like Nash that really make others not want to like HJ..  ;) I thought that WOS would come out fired and up and be running and gunning on HJ.. Obviously I was wrong, and it looks like HJ played with alot of emotion after the loss to Silsbee and maybe had something to prove about their team.. Sometimes you pick right.. and sometimes you dont..

[quote name="stevenash" post="952771" timestamp="1295671799"] You said this; ". I just want people to wake up and realize that HJ is not a top notch team THIS year and will not reach the normal expectations. As far as the WOS pick over HJ, I think the athleticism of WOS will end up beating HJ " ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D The lead was 30 late in the third quarter   [/quote] .... You are just strangely tying to find anything and everything on people huh?  :D You could just send me an inbox you know, but since you made it thread, I will talk on here instead.. At least Im about as special to you on this board as BlueDove3 is  ;D ;D :D Thanks for thinking about me and remembering

Oh come on.. You win some.. you lose some.. Did everybody write them off because they lost on the road in ACC play?  ::) Im not a Huge Duke fan, but I love watching them play.. A big man would be great and really make them a dominant force to compete against, but they have great chemistry. Best basketball team in the country still because of defense and experience on the floor.. Cant ask for better players at their position than N. Smith and K. Singler  ;D 

They key to the game will be Balbay and Brown playing great defense on Selby. Containing those Morris twins is easier when Kansas doesnt have a legit threat to beat them outside. This is gonna be a fun game to watch. Maybe we can see a buzz-beater win for Texas!  ;D :D

Dont sleep on WOS.. They can win if HJ doesnt come out from the start and take control

That was refreshing to watch  :D ;D Good ol' fashin butt whoopin

I really dont remember the last time Central missed the playoffs.. ???  I think they will pull it together and beat the teams they are suppose to beat. After that, It gets really interesting.. I thought from the start of the season it would be Ned, Central, Ozen, and LCM.. Im staying with that pick, but its wide open..

[quote name="BMTSoulja1" post="951055" timestamp="1295451026"] I do know one thing.  In the second  half of district, I do know that both the # 1 and 2 teams in this district will have 2 more losses... [/quote] ::)  :-X

WOS is a good 11-12 team and can give teams fits that want to start a track meet on the court.. Athletic teams always have a chance when they start hitting shots from outside.. Opens up everything

I think UT is going to love having Lewis's skill set. He will do much better in an actual offensive system, instead of 5-on-5 pick-up game style  :D

UT is going to have to help his shot selection

This should be an awesome game! Julian Lewis for La Marque is an absolute beast. Mike Evans from Ball is going to need to play a very efficient game to keep up with the scoring of Lewis. I think La Marque wins, but I wouldn't be surprised if this goes into OT

[quote name="LAZEEK" post="949894" timestamp="1295304405"] So just a curious question and no backdooring you here........... Can HJ beat Nederland now???? [/quote] If Hj comes out on fire and shoots the lights out of the gym, and found a way to deal with the front court of Ned, then maybe they would have a chance. But to be honest, and I may be biased, but I dont think anybody can handle the two big guys, Forney and Smith, for an entire game. And when you get Cunningham knocking down the outside shot, Nederland is really hard to defend, especially for teams in this area. But to answer you question, yes. Any team can beat anybody given the most opportunities, but I think Ned has the edge in game if they played again.  ;)

[quote name="stevenash" post="949882" timestamp="1295302408"] [quote author=dogs1218 link=topic=78734.msg949866#msg949866 date=1295301260] [quote author=stevenash link=topic=78734.msg949857#msg949857 date=1295300458] [quote author=dogs1218 link=topic=78734.msg949845#msg949845 date=1295299536] [quote author=ST4life link=topic=78734.msg949844#msg949844 date=1295299162] [quote author=stevenash link=topic=78734.msg949835#msg949835 date=1295298047] [quote author=LAZEEK link=topic=78734.msg949830#msg949830 date=1295297413] [quote author=dogs1218 link=topic=78734.msg949823#msg949823 date=1295296507] I knew I would take a lot of heat for bashing HJ this year on this public forum, but I stay firm in my judgement until proven otherwise. They still lost the game, just like the other games they lost, all to quality teams.. I may not like the hype about them every year, but I respect HJ. They have been the top team in area for years and have the history to prove it. I just want people to wake up and realize that HJ is not a top notch team THIS year and will not reach the normal expectations. As far as the WOS pick over HJ, I think the athleticism of WOS will end up beating HJ  ;) [/quote] HJ has never been a "top notch" team........even when they won state on 07 they were ranked higher than 5-7th in the state until after they won it all.  Just what to you consider "top notch"???  I will give you a definition of "top notch".........Dallas Madison!!!!  Mark my words that they will be there in the end.  They play anyone and everyone on their schedule and so far their record proves it as they are about .500 on the season. Dogs1218 I have no problem with you voicing your opinion and sticking to it..........and I don't have a problem with you always going against HJ.  Not that you care if I have a problem!!!! :D :D :D I have even gone on record as saying that HJ is not as deep and not as quick as Silsbee, but I always think that the Hawks can and will beat the Tigers.  Just like you think that the Bulldogs can and will beat Ozen, Central, etc.  Nothing wrong with that!!!! I have always pulled for Nederland and I will continue to do so.  Good luck to the Dogs on a district title and in the playoffs......I will be pulling for Coach English and the Dogs......the question is will you be pulling for the Hawks in district and the playoffs?? ;D ;D ;D [/quote] And I congratulate you Zeek for having sufficient restraint and/or good sense not to say that Ozen would "mop the floor" with Nederland. [/quote] We get it with the whole "mop the floor" thing Nash  ::) ::) Here I’ll make an announcement for you: Hey everybody Silsbee did not "mop the floor" with HJ they only beat them ok!!! So stop hurting his feelings by saying that they will or did!!! [/quote] :D :D I have learned something about ol Nashe likes to repeat thing way over the limit to where he annoys other people not even associatted with the issue!  ;D He will cool off later.. the loss must still hurt him a little bit  :D [/quote]  Yes, I am really really mad/disturbed about the HJ loss and the pain is truly unbearable.(despite the fact that I made no comment about the game other than saying the absence of the Silsbee coach had no material impact on the final result)  That remark is nearly as "insightful" as the mop the floor comment. [/quote] Well what else could it be? Here look! I have a great idea for you to try! Move on! I said Silsbee would win and they did! You "said" (I assume you wanted them to win) HJ would win and the didnt! The shoulda, woulda coulda's can be said about every game but the fact is that the result is either a "W" or an "L" Stop trying your hardest to make other people look inferior to your brilliance and give credit where it is due! Jesus man! Its just basketball!!  :D ;D [/quote] NEVER, EVER predicted HJ would win.  I know better than that (you ought to try it)  I simply heard some remarks I thought were uncalled for and with poor judgement/malice  and I responded in defense of your belittlement of the HJ fans and the team.  Yes, I fully understood the context in which the original comments were made.  The only prediction I made was a 30 point victory for Silsbee which was an obvious absurd remark inteneded to make fun of those who really believed that.  I have a great idea for you, also.  Admit you had no earthly idea that HJ could compete with Silsbee.  Somehow, I doubt that will happen. [/quote] HJ can compete with Silsbee on any given night ;) Im not that stupid to truely believe that they couldnt compete... Now, about the winning part, I clearly have made it known that HJ wont beat Silsbee

[quote name="stevenash" post="949857" timestamp="1295300458"] [quote author=dogs1218 link=topic=78734.msg949845#msg949845 date=1295299536] [quote author=ST4life link=topic=78734.msg949844#msg949844 date=1295299162] [quote author=stevenash link=topic=78734.msg949835#msg949835 date=1295298047] [quote author=LAZEEK link=topic=78734.msg949830#msg949830 date=1295297413] [quote author=dogs1218 link=topic=78734.msg949823#msg949823 date=1295296507] I knew I would take a lot of heat for bashing HJ this year on this public forum, but I stay firm in my judgement until proven otherwise. They still lost the game, just like the other games they lost, all to quality teams.. I may not like the hype about them every year, but I respect HJ. They have been the top team in area for years and have the history to prove it. I just want people to wake up and realize that HJ is not a top notch team THIS year and will not reach the normal expectations. As far as the WOS pick over HJ, I think the athleticism of WOS will end up beating HJ  ;) [/quote] HJ has never been a "top notch" team........even when they won state on 07 they were ranked higher than 5-7th in the state until after they won it all.   Just what to you consider "top notch"???  I will give you a definition of "top notch".........Dallas Madison!!!!  Mark my words that they will be there in the end.  They play anyone and everyone on their schedule and so far their record proves it as they are about .500 on the season. Dogs1218 I have no problem with you voicing your opinion and sticking to it..........and I don't have a problem with you always going against HJ.  Not that you care if I have a problem!!!! :D :D :D I have even gone on record as saying that HJ is not as deep and not as quick as Silsbee, but I always think that the Hawks can and will beat the Tigers.  Just like you think that the Bulldogs can and will beat Ozen, Central, etc.  Nothing wrong with that!!!! I have always pulled for Nederland and I will continue to do so.  Good luck to the Dogs on a district title and in the playoffs......I will be pulling for Coach English and the Dogs......the question is will you be pulling for the Hawks in district and the playoffs?? ;D ;D ;D [/quote] And I congratulate you Zeek for having sufficient restraint and/or good sense not to say that Ozen would "mop the floor" with Nederland. [/quote] We get it with the whole "mop the floor" thing Nash  ::) ::) Here I’ll make an announcement for you: Hey everybody Silsbee did not "mop the floor" with HJ they only beat them ok!!! So stop hurting his feelings by saying that they will or did!!! [/quote] :D :D I have learned something about ol Nashe likes to repeat thing way over the limit to where he annoys other people not even associatted with the issue!  ;D He will cool off later.. the loss must still hurt him a little bit   :D [/quote]  Yes, I am really really mad/disturbed about the HJ loss and the pain is truly unbearable.(despite the fact that I made no comment about the game other than saying the absence of the Silsbee coach had no material impact on the final result)  That remark is nearly as "insightful" as the mop the floor comment. [/quote] Well what else could it be? Here look! I have a great idea for you to try! Move on! I said Silsbee would win and they did! You "said" (I assume you wanted them to win) HJ would win and the didnt! The shoulda, woulda coulda's can be said about every game but the fact is that the result is either a "W" or an "L" Stop trying your hardest to make other people look inferior to your brilliance and give credit where it is due! Jesus man! Its just basketball!!  :D ;D

[quote name="stevenash" post="949374" timestamp="1295211618"] [quote author=PoppaBearstarr link=topic=78655.msg949371#msg949371 date=1295211205] I agree, the game was long because of all of the fouls....But I love that they get to play in front of a large crowd for a change...and the atmosphere is unequaled in this area anyway. [/quote] Poppa- Dogs ain't gonna like the atmosphere claim. [/quote] No, I agree with that  ;) HJ and Silsbee always bring the fans and get loud. Best Bball atmosphere in the area

[quote name="LAZEEK" post="949830" timestamp="1295297413"] [quote author=dogs1218 link=topic=78734.msg949823#msg949823 date=1295296507] I knew I would take a lot of heat for bashing HJ this year on this public forum, but I stay firm in my judgement until proven otherwise. They still lost the game, just like the other games they lost, all to quality teams.. I may not like the hype about them every year, but I respect HJ. They have been the top team in area for years and have the history to prove it. I just want people to wake up and realize that HJ is not a top notch team THIS year and will not reach the normal expectations. As far as the WOS pick over HJ, I think the athleticism of WOS will end up beating HJ  ;) [/quote] HJ has never been a "top notch" team........even when they won state on 07 they were ranked higher than 5-7th in the state until after they won it all.  Just what to you consider "top notch"???  I will give you a definition of "top notch".........Dallas Madison!!!!  Mark my words that they will be there in the end.  They play anyone and everyone on their schedule and so far their record proves it as they are about .500 on the season. Dogs1218 I have no problem with you voicing your opinion and sticking to it..........and I don't have a problem with you always going against HJ.  Not that you care if I have a problem!!!! :D :D :D I have even gone on record as saying that HJ is not as deep and not as quick as Silsbee, but I always think that the Hawks can and will beat the Tigers.  Just like you think that the Bulldogs can and will beat Ozen, Central, etc.  Nothing wrong with that!!!! I have always pulled for Nederland and I will continue to do so.  Good luck to the Dogs on a district title and in the playoffs......I will be pulling for Coach English and the Dogs......the question is will you be pulling for the Hawks in district and the playoffs?? ;D ;D ;D [/quote] I may not like HJ very much, but when it comes to state championships and deep playoff runs, I ALWAYS pull for SETX teams, no matter how much I dislike a team.. Like PNG  ;D

[quote name="ST4life" post="949844" timestamp="1295299162"] [quote author=stevenash link=topic=78734.msg949835#msg949835 date=1295298047] [quote author=LAZEEK link=topic=78734.msg949830#msg949830 date=1295297413] [quote author=dogs1218 link=topic=78734.msg949823#msg949823 date=1295296507] I knew I would take a lot of heat for bashing HJ this year on this public forum, but I stay firm in my judgement until proven otherwise. They still lost the game, just like the other games they lost, all to quality teams.. I may not like the hype about them every year, but I respect HJ. They have been the top team in area for years and have the history to prove it. I just want people to wake up and realize that HJ is not a top notch team THIS year and will not reach the normal expectations. As far as the WOS pick over HJ, I think the athleticism of WOS will end up beating HJ  ;) [/quote] HJ has never been a "top notch" team........even when they won state on 07 they were ranked higher than 5-7th in the state until after they won it all.  Just what to you consider "top notch"???  I will give you a definition of "top notch".........Dallas Madison!!!!  Mark my words that they will be there in the end.  They play anyone and everyone on their schedule and so far their record proves it as they are about .500 on the season. Dogs1218 I have no problem with you voicing your opinion and sticking to it..........and I don't have a problem with you always going against HJ.  Not that you care if I have a problem!!!! :D :D :D I have even gone on record as saying that HJ is not as deep and not as quick as Silsbee, but I always think that the Hawks can and will beat the Tigers.  Just like you think that the Bulldogs can and will beat Ozen, Central, etc.  Nothing wrong with that!!!! I have always pulled for Nederland and I will continue to do so.  Good luck to the Dogs on a district title and in the playoffs......I will be pulling for Coach English and the Dogs......the question is will you be pulling for the Hawks in district and the playoffs?? ;D ;D ;D [/quote] And I congratulate you Zeek for having sufficient restraint and/or good sense not to say that Ozen would "mop the floor" with Nederland. [/quote] We get it with the whole "mop the floor" thing Nash  ::) ::) Here I’ll make an announcement for you: Hey everybody Silsbee did not "mop the floor" with HJ they only beat them ok!!! So stop hurting his feelings by saying that they will or did!!! [/quote] :D :D I have learned something about ol Nashe likes to repeat thing way over the limit to where he annoys other people not even associatted with the issue!  ;D He will cool off later.. the loss must still hurt him a little bit  :D

I knew I would take a lot of heat for bashing HJ this year on this public forum, but I stay firm in my judgement until proven otherwise. They still lost the game, just like the other games they lost, all to quality teams.. I may not like the hype about them every year, but I respect HJ. They have been the top team in area for years and have the history to prove it. I just want people to wake up and realize that HJ is not a top notch team THIS year and will not reach the normal expectations. As far as the WOS pick over HJ, I think the athleticism of WOS will end up beating HJ  ;)

West Brook @ [b]North Shore[/b] Livingston @[b] LCM[/b] [b]Nederland[/b] @ Ozen [b]PNG[/b] @ Vidor Orangefield @ [b]Hardin-Jefferson[/b] WOS @ [b]Silsbee[/b] Buna @ [b]Hardin[/b] East Chambers @[b] Anahuac[/b] [b]Big Sandy[/b] @ Hull-Daisetta [b]Burkeville[/b] @ Goodrich Fri [b]PAM[/b] @ West Brook Barbers Hill @ [b]Crosby[/b] [b]Central[/b] @ PNG [b]Vidor[/b] @ Livingston LCM @ [b]Nederland[/b] Hardin-Jefferson @ [b]WOS[/b] [b]Silsbee[/b] @ Hamshire-Fannett Bridge City @ [b]Orangefield[/b] Hull-Daisetta @ [b]West Hardin[/b] Goodrich @ [b]Spurger[/b]