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[quote name="bmrm" post="1367444" timestamp="1359341387"] [quote author=freeze 1914 link=topic=108587.msg1367127#msg1367127 date=1359212739] Good win for hj. But that was the sloppiest I have ever seen them play [/quote] I would imagine WOS had a partial hand in that. [/quote] I say silsbee by 9 this time.

[quote name="Stevenash" post="1367338" timestamp="1359296608"] [quote author=freeze 1914 link=topic=108587.msg1367335#msg1367335 date=1359296184] [quote author=Stevenash link=topic=108587.msg1367172#msg1367172 date=1359221569] [quote author=freeze 1914 link=topic=108587.msg1367127#msg1367127 date=1359212739] Good win for hj. But that was the sloppiest I have ever seen them play [/quote] Well, then, Freeze, that is good news because they beat an athletic team (the kind you say they cant beat ) with their leading scorer being ill and their other leading scorer missing the last two minutes by fouling out and, in general, they played sloppy.  And one more thing, cross country made a difference in the last couple of minutes last night. [/quote] They beat WOS. You honestly think they can beat Silsbee the way they played. WOS athleticism not even close to what Silsbee bringing [/quote] We will find out on Feb 8.  You obviously missed my point.  You can take a positive from a win when play was so sloppy against an athletic team. [/quote] Didn't say it wasn't a good win. Great win but why you think I didn't take the bet. I knew they could beat WOS

[quote name="Stevenash" post="1367172" timestamp="1359221569"] [quote author=freeze 1914 link=topic=108587.msg1367127#msg1367127 date=1359212739] Good win for hj. But that was the sloppiest I have ever seen them play [/quote] Well, then, Freeze, that is good news because they beat an athletic team (the kind you say they cant beat ) with their leading scorer being ill and their other leading scorer missing the last two minutes by fouling out and, in general, they played sloppy.  And one more thing, cross country made a difference in the last couple of minutes last night. [/quote] They beat WOS. You honestly think they can beat Silsbee the way they played. WOS athleticism not even close to what Silsbee bringing

Good win for hj. But that was the sloppiest I have ever seen them play

[quote name="Stevenash" post="1366572" timestamp="1359080807"] [quote author=Dick Vitale link=topic=108474.msg1366559#msg1366559 date=1359076413] How many shots do I get at it? ;D....I would say FB Marshall..talented, with an excellent coach in Gary Nichols (former Willowridge and North Shore coach)...write that one down too, and don't forget it once tourney time rolls around either!!  8) [/quote] Dickie- Dont go so far out on a limb by selecting the #1 ranked team [/quote] Hey Nash this has to be a first. You and I both finally agree on something...Youth will kill  them in the end. And everybody knows once you get into the Houston area the game changes.

[quote name="BLUEDOVE3" post="1366443" timestamp="1359053858"] [quote author=Dick Vitale link=topic=108474.msg1366437#msg1366437 date=1359053011] Soulja, you missed the point...Central is talented, but not THAT talented to win without being WELL coached through the playoffs...in 1999, David Green did a great job of guiding them through the region and they were blessed at the end and a little luck pushed them over the hump....in 2007, Boutte did a MASTERFUL job with that team...They were not the most talented in the region BY FAR that season, but made it to the state championship game.  Central is young and talented...But really not THAT good...yet. ;) [/quote]Its going in one ear out the other. Central people  ::) [/quote] HEY NOW, I'm a Central guy to but I know they not going to Austin.

[quote name="Dick Vitale" post="1366437" timestamp="1359053011"] Soulja, you missed the point...Central is talented, but not THAT talented to win without being WELL coached through the playoffs...in 1999, David Green did a great job of guiding them through the region and they were blessed at the end and a little luck pushed them over the hump....in 2007, Boutte did a MASTERFUL job with that team...They were not the most talented in the region BY FAR that season, but made it to the state championship game.  Central is young and talented...But really not THAT good...yet. ;) [/quote] This is very true. all of it. very talented but not ready

I have to say so myself and Im a Jaguar alum. Central will not go to Austin this year. Athletism alone will not get them there.

[quote name="Stevenash" post="1364828" timestamp="1358553921"] And I will be here to discuss both the West Orange game and Silsbee game with you.  By the way, you mentioned Silsbee 30 point lead and the only reason they didnt maintain it was because HJ had a good quarter.  Therefore, without betting, it should be an easy prediction for you to say Silsbee by +20 since they play a tough schedule, are more athletics, and are part of the "big boys'.  Come on now, a man with your knowledge and expreince is bound to make that prediction because, after all, a five point victory suggests the teams are pretty similar. [/quote] Silsbee won. That's the only stat matter. Just take the L like a man

[quote name="Stevenash" post="1364812" timestamp="1358550338"] [quote author=freeze 1914 link=topic=108282.msg1364799#msg1364799 date=1358546653] [quote author=Stevenash link=topic=108282.msg1364798#msg1364798 date=1358546182] [quote author=freeze 1914 link=topic=108282.msg1364795#msg1364795 date=1358545435] Silsbee will sweep the series this year [/quote] You are OBVIOUSLY afraid to make the west orange bet so how about t his.  You make the WOS bet and the Silsbee bet.  Looking at it from your viewpoint, the Silsbee bet is a lock and if somehow lowly HJ (who cant handle athletic teams) manages to eke out a victory of WOS you break even.  But based on your deep understanding of athleticism and of HJ, it ought to be two easy bets.  How about it? [/quote] I don't have to bet. When they lose to Silsbee AGAIN I will get the chance to say I told you so. 2 scorers won't beat Silsbee [/quote] Two scorers from Nederland beat Silsbee on their home floor.  You arent betting becaue you are not sure about whay you are saying.  No problem.  We both understand that talk is cheap [/quote] I bet nederland did run a point zone press either. Just face it HJ is not what they use to be. Stick to the 2a schools to keep the winning seasons. The big boys not having it this year. Betting not go solve nothing. I'm go get a kick outta clowning you when Silsbee wins. AGAIN.

[quote name="Gucci" post="1364804" timestamp="1358548691"] [quote author=freeze 1914 link=topic=108282.msg1364799#msg1364799 date=1358546653] [quote author=Stevenash link=topic=108282.msg1364798#msg1364798 date=1358546182] [quote author=freeze 1914 link=topic=108282.msg1364795#msg1364795 date=1358545435] Silsbee will sweep the series this year [/quote] You are OBVIOUSLY afraid to make the west orange bet so how about this.  You make the WOS bet and the Silsbee bet.  Looking at it from your viewpoint, the Silsbee bet is a lock and if somehow lowly HJ (who cant handle athletic teams) manages to eke out a victory of WOS you break even.  But based on your deep understanding of athleticism and of HJ, it ought to be two easy bets.  How about it? [/quote] I don't have to bet. When they lose to Silsbee AGAIN I will get the chance to say I told you so. 2 scorers won't beat Silsbee [/quote]Of course Silsbee is better then HJ this year. Think about it, Hj is at a disadvantage this year. Silsbee star should be a sophomore in college..... [/quote] Hahaha. Stop that. We both know that's not true. That kid not even 19 yet. HJ just not ready for that level of competition this year. They are just fine beating on the east chambers and anuhuacs of the world

[quote name="Stevenash" post="1364798" timestamp="1358546182"] [quote author=freeze 1914 link=topic=108282.msg1364795#msg1364795 date=1358545435] Silsbee will sweep the series this year [/quote] You are OBVIOUSLY afraid to make the west orange bet so how about this.  You make the WOS bet and the Silsbee bet.  Looking at it from your viewpoint, the Silsbee bet is a lock and if somehow lowly HJ (who cant handle athletic teams) manages to eke out a victory of WOS you break even.  But based on your deep understanding of athleticism and of HJ, it ought to be two easy bets.  How about it? [/quote] I don't have to bet. When they lose to Silsbee AGAIN I will get the chance to say I told you so. 2 scorers won't beat Silsbee

Silsbee will sweep the series this year

[quote name="Stevenash" post="1364792" timestamp="1358544185"] [quote author=freeze 1914 link=topic=108282.msg1364759#msg1364759 date=1358537787] [quote author=Honest Abe link=topic=108282.msg1364748#msg1364748 date=1358536439] Since when does an 'athletic' team matter so much? U say Nederland is not athletic, yet Nederland has beaten MANY 'athletic' teams this year AND lost to about 5 'athletic' teams this year. HJ beat Central, Kountze, Longview, and Tatum, yet lost to Silsbee and WOS. Out of those 6 teams, they are 4-2. Any idea what is Silsbee's record this year against athletic teams? [/quote] Central blasted HJ this year. They got physical with Johnson and Bosha and the rest was history. Kountze and Tatum are 2a schools I think. you cant match a small town 2a to a big city 2a or a 4a school. Longview yall beat. Speaking about Nederland, they might not be athletic but they are physical, something HJ hasnt been this year. They have won with quickness and 30 foot 3 point shots. When that press doesn't work they tend to have trouble. And Nash the Silsbee was up by almost 30. A bad 4th quarter by Silsbee and a good shooting quarter by HJ got them back in the game. [i][b]I will repeat HJ cant handle athletic and physical teams.[/b][/i] [/quote] Bring it, dont sing it.  Make your bet on the upcoming HJ WOS game.  By the way, Silsbee was up by a similar amount last year in the first game before making a shot at the buzzer to win.  Hj won the rematch by 5.  What does that say about athleticism? SInce HJ cant handle athletic teams, you give me HJ and 5 points for the WOS game and I will give you 3 to 1 odds.  If you dont like that, we can just bet straight up.  Surely, someone as knowledgeable and confident as you are is willing to do this.  How much? [/quote] Last year HJ was athletic and shawn was a men amongst boys. I'm not betting on WOS. Why would I do that. Just face it. THIS YEAR Silsbee is better than HJ. It's that simple. To beat HJ all u have to is be physical and show you won't back down from that press and its over. The 3 games the press was exposed and you played physical against them they lost. It's not because HJ was out coached but because the other 3 teams had better athletes.

[quote name="Honest Abe" post="1364748" timestamp="1358536439"] Since when does an 'athletic' team matter so much? U say Nederland is not athletic, yet Nederland has beaten MANY 'athletic' teams this year AND lost to about 5 'athletic' teams this year. HJ beat Central, Kountze, Longview, and Tatum, yet lost to Silsbee and WOS. Out of those 6 teams, they are 4-2. Any idea what is Silsbee's record this year against athletic teams? [/quote] Central blasted HJ this year. They got physical with Johnson and Bosha and the rest was history. Kountze and Tatum are 2a schools I think. you cant match a small town 2a to a big city 2a or a 4a school. Longview yall beat. Speaking about Nederland, they might not be athletic but they are physical, something HJ hasnt been this year. They have won with quickness and 30 foot 3 point shots. When that press doesn't work they tend to have trouble. And Nash the Silsbee was up by almost 30. A bad 4th quarter by Silsbee and a good shooting quarter by HJ got them back in the game. [i][b]I will repeat HJ cant handle athletic and physical teams.[/b][/i]

[quote name="Stevenash" post="1364730" timestamp="1358533400"] [quote author=freeze 1914 link=topic=108282.msg1364692#msg1364692 date=1358524401] [quote author=Stevenash link=topic=108282.msg1364681#msg1364681 date=1358521407] If you are so confident in your beliefs then Freeze, why dont we make a bet on the game between WOS and Hj next Friday? [/quote] Why would i bet with a team that I  know nothing about? Not going to happen [/quote] You have already stated they are athletic.  They beat HJ before and you are the expert on how much trouble HJ has with athletic teams.  Put your $ where your mouth is. [/quote] When your 25-3 (i think) and 2 out of the 3 games you lose is to more athletic and physical team, what would your outlook be.

[quote name="Honest Abe" post="1364702" timestamp="1358526432"] [quote author=freeze 1914 link=topic=108307.msg1364696#msg1364696 date=1358525029] [quote author=Stevenash link=topic=108307.msg1364693#msg1364693 date=1358524471] Dove- Just in case your eyesight is really failing you: [size=14pt][color=blue]NEDERLAND BULLDOGS[/color][/size] [size=18pt][color=red]20-4A District Champs 2010-2012 Bi-District Champs 2010-2012 Area Champs 2010-2012 Regional Quarter Finalist 2010-2012 Regional Semi-Finalist 2011[/color][/size] [/quote] uh oh here we go again with past stats that will not help them at all this year. [/quote]To catch you up to speed, Blue Dove3 has been obsessed with this bit of information which is on my 'signature'. We are merely referring to his ongoing comments about Nederland 'fading' this year compared to year's past. Nobody ever claimed that the past 3 years would help them win any championships this year.... [/quote] I was referring to Nash with that comment.H e always bringing up past teams

[quote name="Stevenash" post="1364693" timestamp="1358524471"] Dove- Just in case your eyesight is really failing you: [size=14pt][color=blue]NEDERLAND BULLDOGS[/color][/size] [size=18pt][color=red]20-4A District Champs 2010-2012 Bi-District Champs 2010-2012 Area Champs 2010-2012 Regional Quarter Finalist 2010-2012 Regional Semi-Finalist 2011[/color][/size] [/quote] uh oh here we go again with past stats that will not help them at all this year.

[quote name="Stevenash" post="1364681" timestamp="1358521407"] If you are so confident in your beliefs then Freeze, why dont we make a bet on the game between WOS and Hj next Friday? [/quote] Why would i bet with a team that I  know nothing about? Not going to happen

[quote name="BLUEDOVE3" post="1364671" timestamp="1358520323"] [quote author=BMTSoulja1 link=topic=108307.msg1364659#msg1364659 date=1358519185] [quote author=BLUEDOVE3 link=topic=108307.msg1364640#msg1364640 date=1358516976] Why Nederland will win tonight's game: 1. They have to! 2. Nothing like a 3-way tie to add suspense to this district. Most other 4-A districts have clear winners at this time. 3. Central has become a cocky team with a few cocky players 4. Read #1 again...They have to in order for Honest Abe to keep flying those "past" accomplishments on his posts---at this time seems to be fading fast 8) [/quote] 1.  ...and we don't 'have to'? 2. There's already suspense in the district...  Who will get the 4th spot... ;) 3.Lol.  Very funny...  Every team have cocky players...  So Does Nederland.  Lol.  Last I seen, Nederland is a good team as we'll.  Lol 4.  You are a messy guy.  You've mastered the art of not letting the dust settle... ;D ;D [/quote] OMG!! I don't think I really need to expound on your statements for Nederland fans..... Surely they see what you are really saying about this game... :o [/quote] LOL... basically saying that Nederland dont have a chance, right? But we better watch it Nash will find a way to turn this into HJ  post

So you think nederland is athletic???..hahahaha. Lazeek you named one team outside of WOS and Silsbee. Dont forget you guys have played over 20+ games. Nash its no talking to you because if its not a positive for HJ its all wrong

And thats how they win most of there games. Pure pressure defense against any competition. Some people dont seem to think competition matters anymore.

Lol. who you talking bout Soulja Nash or Dove???

If Central does win it will be because of they defense. I look for it to be a close game.

[quote name="LAZEEK" post="1364644" timestamp="1358517893"] Freeze you seem to know so much about the game.  What are you doing know since you left MSU? [/quote] You want me to go thru my recent history so you can say I'm bashing the coaching fraternity when Im only speaking my mind about the game of basketball??  ;D ;D