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[quote name="BLUEDOVE3" post="1393642" timestamp="1365775996"] Could not resist this one: [Hidden Content] [/quote] I knew I wasnt tripping. Because that was my era and that was all over Beaumont and Houston. Did they ever find out the truth?

I remember Mac being at Waltrip to. Wasnt Falu like 20 years old when he was at Waltrip? That was the story going around at the time.

[quote name="Mr. Buddy Garrity" post="1392623" timestamp="1365471310"] [quote author=Dick Vitale link=topic=110906.msg1392621#msg1392621 date=1365470556] [quote author=Big girl link=topic=110906.msg1392615#msg1392615 date=1365470198] Whatever Dick (no pun intended). You dont know everything about basketball and apparently you have not watched enough of his games to know what he needs to work on. I had a long talk with  his AAU coach after the game yesterday. He told me what Zjori needed to work on. He didnt mention any of the things that you mentioned. I think he knows more than you do about Mr Bosha.... ;)  ( Dont worry about me and mine) Zjori is not your concern period.. HIs coaches from HJ also know more about him then you do........ [/quote] Oh of course....The AAU coach that works at the refinery all day is probably better qualified to evaluate basketball talent than me...I just do this for a LIVING....Of course... ::) ::) ::)...wow.... :o....good luck to you and yours. [/quote]gotta watch those AAU coaches  ;) [/quote] He has a very good AAU coach. And believe me he is one of the best player if not the best to play in Beaumont and they practice at the great Ozen High School. :)

[quote name="Dick Vitale" post="1392570" timestamp="1365455255"] [quote author=Big girl link=topic=110906.msg1392557#msg1392557 date=1365453210] OK Blue Dove I am really going to be done with this conversation after this last comment. [b]I played college ball and Zjori will play college ball as well[/b] so I cant answer your question, because I know it will happen for him.  FYI...Zjori is my cousin not my nephew :o [/quote] Since when does one correlate with another? :o...I will say this again...He had better get in the weight room and in the gym and CONTINUE to work on his game. Specifically his handle and his mid range game. He has great tools...He needs to refine them and gain some strength. ;) and I  totally agree with this statement 100%. SIGNED, Someone that truly knows [/quote]

[quote name="BLUEDOVE3" post="1391284" timestamp="1365082029"] [quote author=freeze 1914 link=topic=110519.msg1391283#msg1391283 date=1365081598] with all the Central has coming back, me personally dont think one player will help a school challenge Central for the district title. Central probably wont make it to Austin but for the next 2 years the district title stays in Jaguarland. [/quote]Central will win State!!  ;D [/quote] Dove you a fool frat, we all know it comes down to more than talent to win the big one

with all the Central has coming back, me personally dont think one player will help a school challenge Central for the district title. Central probably wont make it to Austin but for the next 2 years the district title stays in Jaguarland.

[quote name="BLUEDOVE3" post="1385205" timestamp="1363180279"] [quote author=freeze 1914 link=topic=110159.msg1385203#msg1385203 date=1363179779] [quote author=no-look link=topic=110159.msg1385051#msg1385051 date=1363137347] Teams from the seventies,eighties and nineties. How would they stack up against the current teams of the last few years at these schools? [/quote] These new team wouldnt have a chance at all. [/quote]They jump higher? Quicker? Run faster? Dunk? [/quote] the new or old teams??

[quote name="no-look" post="1385051" timestamp="1363137347"] Teams from the seventies,eighties and nineties. How would they stack up against the current teams of the last few years at these schools? [/quote] These new team wouldnt have a chance at all.

[quote name="BADSANTA" post="1384718" timestamp="1363046249"] BMT Westbrook Luke Jackson Omar Sneed Paris Corner Ryan Burton Reggie Prejean [/quote] what about Jeremy Arceneaux

[quote name="BLUEDOVE3" post="1383934" timestamp="1362779369"] [quote author=freeze 1914 link=topic=109900.msg1383915#msg1383915 date=1362776058] [quote author=BLUEDOVE3 link=topic=109900.msg1383914#msg1383914 date=1362775707] [quote author=freeze 1914 link=topic=109900.msg1383892#msg1383892 date=1362771029] [quote author=Stevenash link=topic=109900.msg1383873#msg1383873 date=1362769571] [quote author=BLUEDOVE3 link=topic=109900.msg1383855#msg1383855 date=1362767399] [quote author=Stevenash link=topic=109900.msg1383831#msg1383831 date=1362765106] I believe in never turning the ball over. [/quote]Impossible!Even Bob Cousy turned the ball over! Jerry West turned the ball over! Gail Goodrich turned the ball over! Kleggie Hermsen, another Celtic turned the ball over!!! [/quote] My point was, while it is fine to believe in playing the best, practicality and budgets will not always permit that. [/quote] that is true, but the same way they did for us to go play in dallas, they raised money and west brook to go play in canada a while back. i know hj faithful would put money behind them to travel. [/quote]Not if its considered "free stuff." [/quote] Dove you a fool... :P :P [/quote] G.O.M.A.B.  !!!!!!!  ;) I can see Nash saying now, "are those gang related code words?" [/quote] I know right !!

[quote name="BLUEDOVE3" post="1383914" timestamp="1362775707"] [quote author=freeze 1914 link=topic=109900.msg1383892#msg1383892 date=1362771029] [quote author=Stevenash link=topic=109900.msg1383873#msg1383873 date=1362769571] [quote author=BLUEDOVE3 link=topic=109900.msg1383855#msg1383855 date=1362767399] [quote author=Stevenash link=topic=109900.msg1383831#msg1383831 date=1362765106] I believe in never turning the ball over. [/quote]Impossible!Even Bob Cousy turned the ball over! Jerry West turned the ball over! Gail Goodrich turned the ball over! Kleggie Hermsen, another Celtic turned the ball over!!! [/quote] My point was, while it is fine to believe in playing the best, practicality and budgets will not always permit that. [/quote] that is true, but the same way they did for us to go play in dallas, they raised money and west brook to go play in canada a while back. i know hj faithful would put money behind them to travel. [/quote]Not if its considered "free stuff." [/quote] Dove you a fool... :P :P

[quote name="Stevenash" post="1383873" timestamp="1362769571"] [quote author=BLUEDOVE3 link=topic=109900.msg1383855#msg1383855 date=1362767399] [quote author=Stevenash link=topic=109900.msg1383831#msg1383831 date=1362765106] I believe in never turning the ball over. [/quote]Impossible!Even Bob Cousy turned the ball over! Jerry West turned the ball over! Gail Goodrich turned the ball over! Kleggie Hermsen, another Celtic turned the ball over!!! [/quote] My point was, while it is fine to believe in playing the best, practicality and budgets will not always permit that. [/quote] that is true, but the same way they did for us to go play in dallas, they raised money and west brook to go play in canada a while back. i know hj faithful would put money behind them to travel.

congrats to the Bucs and Coach Hancock!!!!!!!!!

[quote name="Stevenash" post="1383771" timestamp="1362759469"] [quote author=freeze 1914 link=topic=109900.msg1383759#msg1383759 date=1362758748] [quote author=Stevenash link=topic=109900.msg1383751#msg1383751 date=1362757958] [quote author=BLUEDOVE3 link=topic=109900.msg1383747#msg1383747 date=1362757493] [quote author=Stevenash link=topic=109900.msg1383744#msg1383744 date=1362757065] [quote author=BLUEDOVE3 link=topic=109900.msg1383733#msg1383733 date=1362756040] [quote author=Stevenash link=topic=109900.msg1383727#msg1383727 date=1362755712] [quote author=BLUEDOVE3 link=topic=109900.msg1383670#msg1383670 date=1362750211] [quote author=ST413 link=topic=109900.msg1383639#msg1383639 date=1362721266] Very much so.  It also showed just how wrong those who said that we couldn't run with Yates or we would get run off the court were. [/quote]I also read yesterday stating how Yates has been playing  [color=red]DOWN[/color] to their competition [/quote] Where did you read that, Dove? [/quote] Media board. [/quote] Strange- I would have thought that a team with that much coaching expertise, that many great players, and a national schedule would be "above" ever playing down. [/quote] It happens all the time. Different ways of playing down. HJ does it all the time with  their scheduling.  ;) [/quote] Are you referring to their games with Central, Kountze, Tatum, West Orange, Silsbee, Nederland, and Longview? [/quote] you cant put those teams in the same category with Prime prep, Kimball, fb travis, westfield,kalaheo and connally [/quote] Nobody trying to do that.  Nobody in the Golden Triangle played that level of competition and there is no reason they should. [/quote] and thats whats wrong with most, not all the teams in the golden triangle. they need to play more around the state than in they area and when they do play team from other area, make sure they are worthy competition.

[quote name="Stevenash" post="1383751" timestamp="1362757958"] [quote author=BLUEDOVE3 link=topic=109900.msg1383747#msg1383747 date=1362757493] [quote author=Stevenash link=topic=109900.msg1383744#msg1383744 date=1362757065] [quote author=BLUEDOVE3 link=topic=109900.msg1383733#msg1383733 date=1362756040] [quote author=Stevenash link=topic=109900.msg1383727#msg1383727 date=1362755712] [quote author=BLUEDOVE3 link=topic=109900.msg1383670#msg1383670 date=1362750211] [quote author=ST413 link=topic=109900.msg1383639#msg1383639 date=1362721266] Very much so.  It also showed just how wrong those who said that we couldn't run with Yates or we would get run off the court were. [/quote]I also read yesterday stating how Yates has been playing  [color=red]DOWN[/color] to their competition [/quote] Where did you read that, Dove? [/quote] Media board. [/quote] Strange- I would have thought that a team with that much coaching expertise, that many great players, and a national schedule would be "above" ever playing down. [/quote] It happens all the time. Different ways of playing down. HJ does it all the time with  their scheduling.  ;) [/quote] Are you referring to their games with Central, Kountze, Tatum, West Orange, Silsbee, Nederland, and Longview? [/quote] you cant put those teams in the same category with Prime prep, Kimball, fb travis, westfield,kalaheo and connally

[quote name="BADSANTA" post="1383016" timestamp="1362538466"] Yates recruits from Africa and HJ recruits from Beaumont! [/quote] ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

I thought HJ was made up of athletes that couldnt make it at West Brook and Central and Ozen to be honest. Surprised me that they have that many kids in the sour lake area

[quote name="LAZEEK" post="1382791" timestamp="1362502424"] [quote]they on you DV!!! hahahaha. Me personally I didnt know China, Nome, and Cheek had enuff kids to make a 3a school. I thought the Majority of HJ kids came from Beaumont, at least the athletes.[/quote] Why did you leave out Sour Lake, Pinewood, Countrywood, etc?  Are you insinuating that only athletes come from China, Nome, Cheek, and Beaumont?  If so, perhaps you should do some research on the state tournament teams at Hardin-Jefferson and their make up. [/quote] thats why i said i didnt know. i knew of sour lake but im from beaumont and never heard of pineywood and countrywood, etc. when we would go down there all we would see was old folks and not many kids.

[quote name="LAZEEK" post="1382765" timestamp="1362498307"] First off, China is in HJISD boundaries so ALL kids from China go to HJ.  Just like Nome, Sour Lake, some of Cheek and actually some of Jefferson County since the school district line extends out to Moore Road across from NW Forest. Come on Dickie, name names. [/quote] they on you DV!!! hahahaha. Me personally I didnt know China, Nome, and Cheek had enuff kids to make a 3a school. I thought the Majority of HJ kids came from Beaumont, at least the athletes.

[quote name="Dick Vitale" post="1382566" timestamp="1362436175"] [quote author=BLUEDOVE3 link=topic=109991.msg1382554#msg1382554 date=1362433121] [quote author=Stevenash link=topic=109991.msg1382515#msg1382515 date=1362428341] [quote author=BLUEDOVE3 link=topic=109991.msg1382462#msg1382462 date=1362419872] [quote author=AggiesAreWe link=topic=109991.msg1382458#msg1382458 date=1362419379] [quote author=BLUEDOVE3 link=topic=109991.msg1382455#msg1382455 date=1362419146] Yates is credited with 1000 students and they are in 3-A LCM has ......1123  /4-A Livingston.........1143/ 4-A Ozen .............1264/ 4-A So if these 4-A schools drop to 1000 students, is it possible they move into 3-A?????? [/quote] Very possible but do not see these schools dropping that much in enrollment. 3A (which will be reclassified as 4A next realignment) ceiling number may go up to as much as 1050 next realignment, but not much more. [/quote] So, 4-A is moving to 5-A? And the big schools along with the cheating schools will go 6-A? [/quote] Dove- Arent you a believer that there are no cheating schools? [/quote] Sure there are cheating schools out there, Nash!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! [/quote] I know of one that takes kids from Beaumont and then tries to justify it.... ::) ::) [/quote] me too DV!!!

[quote name="Stevenash" post="1382388" timestamp="1362409822"] Weak scheduling paying off [/quote] Would be you Nash..lol

[quote name="Dick Vitale" post="1381500" timestamp="1362169788"] [quote author=freeze 1914 link=topic=109926.msg1381481#msg1381481 date=1362167830] [quote author=Honest Abe link=topic=109926.msg1381480#msg1381480 date=1362167456] [quote author=BLUEDOVE3 link=topic=109926.msg1381463#msg1381463 date=1362164741] [quote author=Honest Abe link=topic=109926.msg1381454#msg1381454 date=1362164350] Didn't know Lamar was looking at him. Hope he finds a good 'fit'. [/quote]hMMM? You stated:  "Which seniors do we project will sign with someone? [color=red]Any predictions[/color]?" [/quote]Oh, gotcha. That's YOUR prediction. Sorry about that. ;) Lamar may be a good fit for him. [/quote] He is not good enough for the Southland [/quote] :o :o..The SOUTHLAND is one of the two WORST Division I conferences in the COUNTRY! Not good enough for THEM? PLEASE!  ::)...I like Zach's game a lot. He may need a RS year to get some weight  and strength on him, but the kid can play. [/quote] He can play, so can Holmes, Elam, Johnson, but you right RS  year will be needed for anyone of them.

[quote name="Honest Abe" post="1381480" timestamp="1362167456"] [quote author=BLUEDOVE3 link=topic=109926.msg1381463#msg1381463 date=1362164741] [quote author=Honest Abe link=topic=109926.msg1381454#msg1381454 date=1362164350] Didn't know Lamar was looking at him. Hope he finds a good 'fit'. [/quote]hMMM? You stated:  "Which seniors do we project will sign with someone? [color=red]Any predictions[/color]?" [/quote]Oh, gotcha. That's YOUR prediction. Sorry about that. ;) Lamar may be a good fit for him. [/quote] He is not good enough for the Southland

most of them around setx wont get signed because of size and playing out of position.

Why blame the coach? He was not out there turning the ball over. If you're going to blame the coach you have to blame him for winning a district title as well. It just wasn't Central's night. They got out played by a very well coached team. They stuck to their game plan and that was to slow Central down and it worked.