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[quote name="mj-7" post="894117" timestamp="1288655918"]
                              Passing    Comp.     Att.      Pct.      Yds   TD     Int         Rushing      Att.    Yds.    Yds/Att    Tds
Cenral - Mitchell                            64      131    48.86       996    11     7                          92      414           4.5      3
[b]LCM - Gonzales                            139      228    60.90     2089    20     5                         122     597          4.89     11[/b]
Lumberton - Hughes                       94      166     56.63    1333    11     6                         103     244          2.37       6
Nederalnd - Forney                        59      110     53.64      799      5     5                          31     120          3.87       4
[b]Ozen - Green                               122     196     62.24     1886     19    5                          74     371          5.01       5
PNG - Doty                                  158     245     64.49     1940     22    8                          15      12            0.8       1    [/b]   
Vidor - Dozier                                20       52     38.46      316      0     5                          50      65           1.30       4

Got this from the Enterprise stats.
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Lol that looks like allstate numbers to me. lol
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[quote name="utguy09" post="894197" timestamp="1288659791"]
[quote author=mj-7 link=topic=75383.msg894117#msg894117 date=1288655918]
                              Passing    Comp.     Att.      Pct.      Yds   TD     Int         Rushing      Att.    Yds.    Yds/Att    Tds
Cenral - Mitchell                            64      131    48.86       996    11     7                          92      414           4.5      3
[b]LCM - Gonzales                            139      228    60.90     2089    20     5                         122     597          4.89     11[/b]
Lumberton - Hughes                       94      166     56.63    1333    11     6                         103     244          2.37       6
Nederalnd - Forney                        59      110     53.64      799      5     5                          31     120          3.87       4
[b]Ozen - Green                               122     196     62.24     1886     19    5                          74     371          5.01       5
PNG - Doty                                  158     245     64.49     1940     22    8                          15      12            0.8       1    [/b]   
Vidor - Dozier                                20       52     38.46      316      0     5                          50      65           1.30       4

Got this from the Enterprise stats.
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Lol that looks like allstate numbers to me. lol
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;D ;D ;D thats awesome
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[quote name="aries456" post="894102" timestamp="1288654997"]
[quote author=vidorSDMF link=topic=75383.msg893999#msg893999 date=1288649386]
Doty is a great QB i gotta go with him
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He is, but that taunting he did against Vidor is ridiculous.
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I watched the game on the computer, but I was never able to see that.  I guess I skipped through it somehow.
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[quote name="PNG Proud" post="894299" timestamp="1288665809"]
[quote author=aries456 link=topic=75383.msg894102#msg894102 date=1288654997]
[quote author=vidorSDMF link=topic=75383.msg893999#msg893999 date=1288649386]
Doty is a great QB i gotta go with him
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He is, but that taunting he did against Vidor is ridiculous.
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I watched the game on the computer, but I was never able to see that.  I guess I skipped through it somehow.
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He wasn't taunting the fans but a certain someone on the Vidor sideline (who I rather not identify).
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[quote name="Old61Eagle" post="894333" timestamp="1288667656"]
[quote author=PNG Proud link=topic=75383.msg894299#msg894299 date=1288665809]
[quote author=aries456 link=topic=75383.msg894102#msg894102 date=1288654997]
[quote author=vidorSDMF link=topic=75383.msg893999#msg893999 date=1288649386]
Doty is a great QB i gotta go with him
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He is, but that taunting he did against Vidor is ridiculous.
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well it was un sportsman like regardless

and idk who 77 was but he had a few dishonorable moments as well



I watched the game on the computer, but I was never able to see that.  I guess I skipped through it somehow.
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He wasn't taunting the fans but a certain someone on the Vidor sideline (who I rather not identify).
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Here's another question....Who cares? All these "who is the best" threads turn into a homer contest and end up with people talking crap on a kid or talking crap on a school. All 3 have had great seasons and Mitchell is going to be something else these next two years. It is going to be a tough vote for the coaches when voting for All-District this year. I find it hilarious that people act with shock that someone would pick one over another that doesn't line up with their opinion.
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[quote name="trainerbc" post="894504" timestamp="1288705213"]
Just out of curiosity, how can you pick the best QB in 20 4A when you leave one completly out?  Livingston is not even on your lists.  I'm not saying that he would be the best in the district, but you have to at least include him in the group.
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Here’s the site, if you can figure out which name or which Collins to use, go for it.  www.beaumontenterprise.com/huddle 

Chavesti, Chevoski or Cheveski not sure if it’s the same person or brothers on the team, all I can tell you is #14 is the QB/CB and he is a good athlete.
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[quote name="NDNWarrior" post="894143" timestamp="1288657320"]
Hands down:  Brennen Doty (PNG)
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This statement is funny... Doty has been out  performed by a statistical measure.  And well outperformed!  Not to mention he has thrown 3 more picks and has nowhere near the rushing TD's... It is a Gonzo / Green battle by far.  Doty is a great talent but these ifs, ands, & maybes don't count!! The REAL proof is in the numbers!!!!
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[quote name="TITAN POWER" post="894429" timestamp="1288699019"]
PNG people kill me.   [b]Green[/b] from Ozen, and to take a quote from indian nation "Hands Down"  That kid is fantastic.
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If your talking about who is the best QB as far as MVP wise, it would have to be Green.  If your talking about best QB athlete, again, I would go with Green. Granted they are 0 for, but without him, they would get killed.  If your talking about true dual threat, stat wise, I would have to go with Gonzales.  If your talking about QB talent at the next level, would have to go with Doty, much better arm and accuracy than the others.
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[quote author=NDNWarrior link=topic=75383.msg894143#msg894143 date=1288657320]
Hands down:  Brennen Doty (PNG)
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This statement is funny... Doty has been out  performed by a statistical measure.  And well outperformed!  Not to mention he has thrown 3 more picks and has nowhere near the rushing TD's... It is a Gonzo / Green battle by far.  Doty is a great talent but these ifs, ands, & maybes don't count!! The REAL proof is in the numbers!!!!
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Numbers don't always mean everything....if that were the case, Jarrod Johnson would have been at the Heismann party with Colt McCoy last year.  Gonzo=no playoffs, no district championships.......Green=no playoffs, no district championships........Doty=playoff run[b]S[/b], 10-0 premier, and a district championship.  The real proof is in winning.

Aside from that, you are failing to mention in your stats statement that Doty leads in completions, completion %, passing td's, and is 2nd in passing yards.  The true stat is more than likely in the QB Rating: Doty 105, Gonzales 111, and Green 115.  However, I go with the wins over the stats.
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I would agree that Doty is the most accurate and looks the part of a Saturday QB, but I was very impressed with Greens arm. I think if he had an offensive line that didn't have him running for his life at the snap of the ball and always throwing on the run, he would be more accurate. I also think that if PNG didn't have such a good running game, Doty's numbers would be even better. I think Gonzo has done all he could do and the numbers show it, fantastic.

Sooooo,
District MVP: Damon Heard
Offensive MVP: Hunter Gonzales
Newcomer of the Year: Green, Bertrand or Mitchell

1st team QB: Brennan Doty
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[quote name="Layingemdown" post="894577" timestamp="1288709026"]
[quote author=ABSENT! link=topic=75383.msg894570#msg894570 date=1288708650]
[quote author=NDNWarrior link=topic=75383.msg894143#msg894143 date=1288657320]
Hands down:  Brennen Doty (PNG)
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This statement is funny... Doty has been out  performed by a statistical measure.  And well outperformed!  Not to mention he has thrown 3 more picks and has nowhere near the rushing TD's... It is a Gonzo / Green battle by far.  Doty is a great talent but these ifs, ands, & maybes don't count!! The REAL proof is in the numbers!!!!
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Numbers don't always mean everything....if that were the case, Jarrod Johnson would have been at the Heismann party with Colt McCoy last year.  Gonzo=no playoffs, no district championships.......Green=no playoffs, no district championships........Doty=playoff run[b]S[/b], 10-0 premier, and a district championship.  The real proof is in winning.

Aside from that, you are failing to mention in your stats statement that Doty leads in completions, completion %, passing td's, and is 2nd in passing yards.  The true stat is more than likely in the QB Rating: Doty 105, Gonzales 111, and Green 115.  However, I go with the wins over the stats.
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The Johnson / McCoy analysis would be applied to Gonzo / Green!!! Gonzo would be the best QB with Green losing because his team is not performing... Still leaving Doty 3rd!!! Which is really unfair because he would be the best QB in the area any other year!!
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