Jump to content

Which is better PONY BASEBALL or LITTLE LEAGUE BASEBALL...


VP93....

Recommended Posts

They're both good in my opinion but I like the fact that in pony ball you can take a lead off of the bases that you cant do in little league. Helps to learn better base running. (you can only lead off in the older leagues.) Unless its changed since I was involved which has been a few years.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

They're both good in my opinion but I like the fact that in pony ball you can take a lead off of the bases that you cant do in little league. Helps to learn better base running. (you can only lead off in the older leagues.) Unless its changed since I was involved which has been a few years.

Yeah Bridge City changed thier 13-16 year old PONY program to Junior Little League and Senior Little League...do those older kids get to take leads? if not they should have  just kept PONY league thier.. the 2006 13@ 14 year old All Stars were only one win away from going to to the PONY World Series in Pennsylvania.. I think they just should've kept it PONY League

Link to comment
Share on other sites

At 13, they play loose bases in Little League(called Junior League).  I prefer tight bases at the younger levels.  You actually see force plays in Little League.  In PONY, the young catchers and pitchers can't hold the runners.  A walk is an automatic triple for most kids, with the batter taking pitches to let them steal.  They MIGHT learn base running better, but they sure don't learn the art of the middle infield as well.  JMO

Link to comment
Share on other sites

At 13, they play loose bases in Little League(called Junior League).  I prefer tight bases at the younger levels.   You actually see force plays in Little League.  In PONY, the young catchers and pitchers can't hold the runners.  A walk is an automatic triple for most kids, with the batter taking pitches to let them steal.   They MIGHT learn base running better, but they sure don't learn the art of the middle infield as well.  JMO

Good point.
Link to comment
Share on other sites

Little league or Pony don't matter, it's about learning the fundamentals. It's about teaching the kids the right stuff. If a young man is taught how to steal a base by someone who has no clue, then in high school he will be that much farther behind the player that was taught the correct way. Running, catching , throwing, hitting .......... bottom line is to find good coaching and private instruction. Invest in your children. Time, time, time.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Little League takes this one.  As previously mentioned, it comes down to pitching & leading off.  What sense does it make to take a 9 year old kid who is just starting to learn the mechanics of pitching and then turn around and ask him to learn how to hold runners on?  These kids have little control at this age and asking to them to throw strikes is hard enough, so making them also concentrate on a base runner is idiotic.  This is what PONY does.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Little League takes this one.  As previously mentioned, it comes down to pitching & leading off.  What sense does it make to take a 9 year old kid who is just starting to learn the mechanics of pitching and then turn around and ask him to learn how to hold runners on?  These kids have little control at this age and asking to them to throw strikes is hard enough, so making them also concentrate on a base runner is idiotic.  This is what PONY does.

PONY at age 9 - 10 gives the individual league the option to lead off or not.In my particular community the  PONY league is much more competitive than our local LL and  they  choose to lead off.Their mentality is it prepares the select few for allstars.Instead of making it a positive experience for the whole group of kids. We have a lot of kids that quit baseball between the ages 10 and 11. I feel it's because at the 9-10 yo level they get beat up on by a few strong teams that just steal bases at will and run up the score. There are kids at 9 and 10 that do very well with leading off and holding runners on. But the majority of the kids do not and it becomes a field day on the base pads. Coaches run up scores by walking and stealing home.This is not how it should be done.I'm a huge PONY supporter ,and believe if done the right way is a very good program. But do agree that at the 9-10 yo should not lead off unless the more competitive teams are separated.I do think that coaches and parents are putting too much emphasis on competitiveness at 7,8,9,10 years old and when it starts to matter and the kids start actually developing they fall off because we've pushed so hard at early age.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Little League takes this one.  As previously mentioned, it comes down to pitching & leading off.  What sense does it make to take a 9 year old kid who is just starting to learn the mechanics of pitching and then turn around and ask him to learn how to hold runners on?  These kids have little control at this age and asking to them to throw strikes is hard enough, so making them also concentrate on a base runner is idiotic.  This is what PONY does.

PONY at age 9 - 10 gives the individual league the option to lead off or not.In my particular community the  PONY league is much more competitive than our local LL and  they  choose to lead off.Their mentality is it prepares the select few for allstars.Instead of making it a positive experience for the whole group of kids. We have a lot of kids that quit baseball between the ages 10 and 11. I feel it's because at the 9-10 yo level they get beat up on by a few strong teams that just steal bases at will and run up the score. There are kids at 9 and 10 that do very well with leading off and holding runners on. But the majority of the kids do not and it becomes a field day on the base pads. Coaches run up scores by walking and stealing home.This is not how it should be done.I'm a huge PONY supporter ,and believe if done the right way is a very good program. But do agree that at the 9-10 yo should not lead off unless the more competitive teams are separated.I do think that coaches and parents are putting too much emphasis on competitiveness at 7,8,9,10 years old and when it starts to matter and the kids start actually developing they fall off because we've pushed so hard at early age.

That's all our local league is concerned with is All-Stars.  And since we're from such a small community with such a small pool of kids to pull from, our All-Star teams VERY RARELY ever get out of this area.  It's usually two & out.  My kids make All-Stars every year & I think this infatuation with All-Stars is crap.  Yeah a lot of our kids here also quit by the time they turn 11.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

The league is only as good as it's volunteers.

The goal of both leagues is to keep the kids involved in baseball as long as possible. When the focus is winning at all cost, your league will fold like an old suit. 

It looks like ours may be headed that direction.  I heard the numbers for all divisions is WAY down.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

  • Member Statistics

    45,977
    Total Members
    1,837
    Most Online
    cfbswami
    Newest Member
    cfbswami
    Joined


  • Posts

    • Manchin may get it but any mention of the radical left that wanted to get rid of the filibuster and end almost 220 years of history because the Democrats are mad?  The House and Senate are obviously different legislative bodies with entirely different election processes and rules for a reason. The House can vote on laws with a simple majority vote. The Senate put rules in place that it would make it much tougher to pass laws. Laws should be difficult to pass. The Senate is often the holdup of the right and left. It takes 60 votes to break the filibuster so any law will almost certainly require agreement at least in part, from opposing sides of an issue. Because they can’t get laws passed, the radical left is like a baby having a tantrum and wants to change over 200 years of history and make it potentially ridiculously easy to pass laws. I have seen current poll maps and it is possible for the Republicans to sweep into complete power in November but by the tiniest margin. That would possibly mean that a single vote margin in both houses could enact what you might call the radical right laws. There would be nothing that the Democrats could do to stop any legislation whatsoever if the left (they are all radical, minus Manchin) got their filibuster rule changed.  That is where the current filibuster comes into play as any new law would require several Democrats to agree with the majority Republicans and vice versa.  Do you want the potential for your radical right to have free rein as the radical left wants by killing the filibuster or is the radical left just as (if not more) dangerous? Let’s see if we have a history in this area? Oh yeah, the Democrats changed the rules in the Senate to allow federal judges to not have to overcome the filibuster. Obama was not getting his federal judge nominations passed and being angry, they changed the rules instead of nominating more moderate justices. They were warned that it would come back to bite them. They didn’t care and chose the nuclear option to change the rules. Oops! Any guess how Trump got all of his Supreme Court nominees passed against strong Democrat opposition? The Democrats got rid of the filibuster for federal judges after another tantrum   So when you are so worried about the radical right, are you equally concerned in what the radical left is always doing by changing rules and history which were put into place just for situations like we are in? So while Manchin gets it, what about his other 50 colleagues (49 + Harris)?  What concerns you more, Abbott and Paxton or the Democrats who want to make it to where if the Republicans do take over, they can go wild… at least in your mind? 
    • MODS please remove that ISD twitter link! I had no idea it would copy the whole posting. I only highlighted the portion about the venue change. Sorry about that!
    • See why I don't trust my Hogs?
    • Come on dude, don’t take anything away from the kids on the field. If you want to talk uncharacteristic, we made what 3 or 4 errors in game one. Y’all had 2 EARNED runs.  Defense is normally our strong suit. Your ace didn’t strike out a single one of our kids. Like I said also, you did not out hit us in game 1. Hell you barley out hit us in game 2. We had all the uncharacteristic walks. Josh pitched a hell of a game is what made that game what it was.
  • Topics

×
×
  • Create New...