The Art of the Squeal

[baddog]

7 minutes ago, Porter said:

 

When you have no answer, post a meme from X. Lmao

[Porter]

11 minutes ago, baddog said:

When you have no answer, post a meme from X. Lmao

Please tell me what you want me to answer. You’re rambling. 

[baddog]

7 minutes ago, Porter said:

Please tell me what you want me to answer. You’re rambling. 

You obviously don’t read my posts. I asked how you would have hit Iran harder and faster. Too late now. You’ll go to another thread. You can have it Porter. You’re the only one who knows anything. Sick of your personal attacks. 

[Porter]

3 minutes ago, baddog said:

You obviously don’t read my posts. I asked how you would have hit Iran harder and faster. Too late now. You’ll go to another thread. You can have it Porter. You’re the only one who knows anything. Sick of your personal attacks. 

You make no sense. Trump didn’t start the Ukraine War he just said he’d end it in the first 24 hours of his presidency. I don’t know everything but I know incompetencey when I see it. There is nothing personal about debating policy. If you attack me I will respond accordingly. It’s ok to question presidents even if you voted for them. The vegetable was installed in 2020 so there wasn’t much to question. Well sorry if I made you uncomfortable with truth about Trump. I don’t know if it’s been verified but it looks like Iran attacked The US in Baharain. Not good even if Trump doesn’t play. 

[baddog]

6 minutes ago, Porter said:

You make no sense. Trump didn’t start the Ukraine War he just said he’d end it in the first 24 hours of his presidency. I don’t know everything but I know incompetencey when I see it. There is nothing personal about debating policy. If you attack me I will respond accordingly. It’s ok to question presidents even if you voted for them. The vegetable was installed in 2020 so there wasn’t much to question. Well sorry if I made you uncomfortable with truth about Trump. I don’t know if it’s been verified but it looks like Iran attacked The US in Baharain. Not good even if Trump doesn’t play. 

Of course you still didn’t answer. Shocker. Uncomfortable is what you think, childishness is truly what it is. You have attacked several times without provocation trying to bait a response. It’s called trolling and  can have it.

[Porter]

9 minutes ago, baddog said:

Of course you still didn’t answer. Shocker. Uncomfortable is what you think, childishness is truly what it is. You have attacked several times without provocation trying to bait a response. It’s called trolling and  can have it.

Answer What?!!!

Please ask your imaginary question.

[baddog]

15 minutes ago, Porter said:

Answer What?!!!

Please ask your imaginary question.

Two posts up. Imaginary???? I’m done. It’s pointless.

[Porter]

15 minutes ago, baddog said:

Two posts up. Imaginary???? I’m done. It’s pointless.

I am asking you to clearly state your question in this post. You are all over the place. What is the question?!

[mat]

2 hours ago, Separation Scientist said:

Trump could EASILY have sent the troops in and forcibly eliminated every last shred of the IRGC. We could have bombed the whole country to oblivion, destroyed their entire infrastructure, and turned Iran into a desert oil slick. He chose not to do that. Trump does not want to hurt the Iran people, nor do I want him to. 

So what would have happened if he had done this? The media and the left would have exploded with rage. 100%. They would scream about "American boots on the ground" and "innocent deaths" and called Trump a million (more) bad names. So he didn't. He brought an incredibly humane, surgical military operation to bear, and all but eliminated the head of the snake. He destroyed the Iran military and left their nuke program in rubble. He showed great restraint while accomplishing so much. 

So what happens now? People just want to complain, discredit, and nit pick everything he did do. The TDS consumed eternal critics will never be satisfied either way. If Trump does A, they scream he should have done B.  If Trump does B, they scream he should have done A. If Trump claimed "water is wet", they would argue its not. TDS at its finest.     

    

  

It could have been quite simple. Do start a war without an endgame strategy. If you don’t have a complete plan, stand down until you do. What should we do now? Turn Israel loose and have their back.

[mat]

4 hours ago, OlDawg said:

He’s not the one who said “Trump don’t play.”

Don’t forget “trust the process”

[mat]

4 hours ago, baddog said:

Sure am glad people on here don’t run their pie hole. Maybe if some of our so-called allies would have let us use their airfields, we could have hit them much harder and put more jets in the air. Just how would you have hit them harder and faster? 

Available resources like airfields should have been confirmed before you start a war. Our effective war game plan should not be dependent on others.

[baddog]

15 minutes ago, mat said:

Available resources like airfields should have been confirmed before you start a war. Our effective war game plan should not be dependent on others.

It wasn’t dependent on Spain and Italy, two members of NATO, but it should be assumed even if the host country doesn’t assist with military help. U.S. fighter jets are present at these bases. Are they only there should Italy or Spain need defending. One day, we can return the favor. Help, America. We are being invaded. You can use our airfields now.

[Porter]

4 hours ago, baddog said:

Sure am glad people on here don’t run their pie hole. Maybe if some of our so-called allies would have let us use their airfields, we could have hit them much harder and put more jets in the air. Just how would you have hit them harder and faster? 

More excuses. It’s never Trumps fault. Blind allegiance. 
 

 

[baddog]

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[OlDawg]

5 hours ago, Reagan said:

Trump doesn't play.  He's pretty well decimated very thing called Iran.  He's sympathetic to the people.  He knows what's he's doing.  You honestly don't think he understands the situation?!  

BTW, I see you got another "laugh" response from the long-time tenant of the TDS cult.  Again, tells me a lot!  

No. I don't. He's trying to deal on a secular level with a group that operates on a different premise.

Of course, as a combat vet who has had direct dealings with the Iranian regime, and our IC, what would I know? I'll defer to the rest of y'all who obviously have much more experience than I.

[Reagan]

24 minutes ago, OlDawg said:

No. I don't. He's trying to deal on a secular level with a group that operates on a different premise.

Of course, as a combat vet who has had direct dealings with the Iranian regime, and our IC, what would I know? I'll defer to the rest of y'all who obviously have much more experience than I.

Come on, you know that's just your opinion.  

[OlDawg]

8 minutes ago, Reagan said:

Come on, you know that's just your opinion.  

Your point?

[Reagan]

Just now, OlDawg said:

Your point?

Opinion is not fact!

[OlDawg]

2 minutes ago, Reagan said:

Opinion is not fact!

Never said it was. I said it was based on first-hand experience. What have you got?

While you’re at it, tell me where I’ve been wrong so far. My posts on this issue have been consistent from the very beginning. They remain so.

[mat]

1 hour ago, baddog said:

It wasn’t dependent on Spain and Italy, two members of NATO, but it should be assumed even if the host country doesn’t assist with military help. U.S. fighter jets are present at these bases. Are they only there should Italy or Spain need defending. One day, we can return the favor. Help, America. We are being invaded. You can use our airfields now.

I understand your logic, however assumptions in war won’t cut it.

[baddog]

18 minutes ago, mat said:

I understand your logic, however assumptions in war won’t cut it.

True. Good thing the U.S. has the best military ever seen and their help was never needed. It’s nice to know who you can count on. We should abandon those bases.

[Reagan]

22 minutes ago, OlDawg said:

Never said it was. I said it was based on first-hand experience. What have you got?

While you’re at it, tell me where I’ve been wrong so far. My posts on this issue have been consistent from the very beginning. They remain so.

You stated Trump don't know what he's doing concerning Iran.  I'm sure he has people that advise him know more than you and me put together.  

[Porter]

18 minutes ago, Reagan said:

You stated Trump don't know what he's doing concerning Iran.  I'm sure he has people that advise him know more than you and me put together.  

Is that why only 5 ships went through the strait of Hormuz today compared to 60 a day and we’re just about out of our strategic petroleum supply? On top of that everyone is shooting at each other during this supposed ceasefire.

[OlDawg]

12 hours ago, Reagan said:

You stated Trump don't know what he's doing concerning Iran.  I'm sure he has people that advise him know more than you and me put together.  

Are these the same advisors who listened to the Gulf States, and other world leaders (who haven't been directly threatened with 'Death to America' chants for the last 47 years) that warned of a global recession because their countries/States were in a crunch and don't know the full capabilities of America's military? Or, were they the political advisors that warned him about losing an election--and going through another ridiculous and wasteful impeachment process--because of high gas prices, and an unpopular war that he didn't get full buy-in from the public before beginning?

I'm not a war hawk in general. But, I am as it concerns the Iranian regime. If it was important enough to go in, it's important enough to finish.

Just because you eliminate some senior leadership of a group that has never honored an agreement in their history doesn't mean their acolytes will honor an agreement any differently. That's a fool's errand.

Sorry. I've always been hopeful this current blockade method along with military action would work. But, I just don't see it. Many others with direct experience share my view. I daresay, it's about 50/50, with more of the former military and intel personnel with experience agreeing with me. The politicos probably do not agree as they're concerned about different things.

Without regime change, you'll never confirm there's no nuclear threat as you'll never receive total access, and THAT was the primary driver.