Iran War Update

[mat]

5 hours ago, TheMissingBand said:

Yes, it was.  

Not acceptable according the press conference 

 

 

[Porter]

36 minutes ago, TheMissingBand said:

As I’m watching the events of today, it’s clear to me that Israel hitting Lebanon 100 times in 10 minutes today, their most aggressive attack of the war, wasn’t a message for Lebanon.  It was a message for us. This isn’t over until Israel’s objectives are reached… mix in the fact that Iran feels the same way, it doesn’t matter that we want out-it’s not up to us. 
 

Add to that the fact that Trump is attacking NATO again today because they didn’t assist in Trump’s unprovoked attack on Iran, and we’re bordering on a lot of real problems.  He started talking about taking Greenland again this afternoon. 
 

When is enough gonna be enough?

NATO is a useless money grab of taxpayer dollars. I say withdraw from it completely and close all our military bases across Europe. Time to stop being the world’s policemen. They’re all globalists countries anyway that want us destroyed. 
 

I know you think Trump sucks blah blah blah.

[Reagan]

9 hours ago, TheMissingBand said:

Yes, it was.  

 

Again, Lebanon was not included in the cease fire!

[TheMissingBand]

3 hours ago, Reagan said:

 

Again, Lebanon was not included in the cease fire!

Then Trump lied about there being a ceasefire. 

[DCT]

2 hours ago, TheMissingBand said:

Then Trump lied about there being a ceasefire. 

Market manipulation is the art of the steal. Isreal determines when it's over.
We were THE super power at one time.  

[Big girl]

16 hours ago, Reagan said:

Chip Roy said: ""Islam is NOT a Religion! It is a conquering POLITICAL ideology antithetical to Western Civilization...""

So

[Reagan]

3 hours ago, Big girl said:

So

You do realize how you would be treated if Islam took over don't you?  Would you like me to post videos of women being beaten?  It's funny how the women's organizations stay silent over this treatment!

[Reagan]

20 hours ago, TheMissingBand said:

It was number ten on Iran’s list of ten.  Israel didn’t agree, apparently. 

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It’s there.  You can find it anywhere.  But Trump was willing to do anything to get his big fat behind out of this mess and he should have talked to Bibi first.  

 

So, you are quoting Iran's side of  the cease fire list!  This is Iran's list that they gave to CNN.  This list you want to be true, Trump and Vance said it's garbage!  Taking our enemy's side is, well...

[Big girl]

10 minutes ago, Reagan said:

You do realize how you would be treated if Islam took over don't you?  Would you like me to post videos of women being beaten?  It's funny how the women's organizations stay silent over this treatment!

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[Reagan]

4 minutes ago, Big girl said:

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Another thing I forgot to tell you -- Islam preaches "lying" to advance their sickness!  Point is, you can't trust them.  And Trump knows this!

[TheMissingBand]

2 hours ago, Reagan said:

So, you are quoting Iran's side of  the cease fire list!  This is Iran's list that they gave to CNN.  This list you want to be true, Trump and Vance said it's garbage!  Taking our enemy's side is, well...

No, sir… Pakistan confirmed that the Iranian demand that all attacks their allies (in Lebanon, etc.) was in the ceasefire agreement.  
 

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Basically put, Iran says hostilities against all of us must stop, we agreed, but then Israel said “no, we don’t agree to a ceasefire, and you don’t speak for us, Fatso” before hitting Lebanon harder than ever.  So now Trump is like “well, that’s between Israel and Lebanon, but you’d better open that strait” and Iran is like “I guess we don’t have a ceasefire after all.” 
 

A better question is, why does Trump keep saying that we have “full control over air and sea” but the strait is still closed? Donnie’s lying again, and you’re lapping it all up and asking for seconds. Send a carrier through the strait and see what happens. 

[thetragichippy]

1 hour ago, TheMissingBand said:

A better question is, why does Trump keep saying that we have “full control over air and sea” but the strait is still closed? Donnie’s lying again, and you’re lapping it all up and asking for seconds. Send a carrier through the strait and see what happens. 

I guess you don't understand what full control means.  The strait is still closed because he is negotiating, trying to get a peace deal. You can't be that ate up with Trump to not realize after hitting over 15,000 military and other targets, destroying their navy and air force, if we wanted, we could make a ghost town out of the strait and make it safe to go through. 

Your carrier comment is ridiculous because those vessels are not designed for close quarters.

[TheMissingBand]

34 minutes ago, thetragichippy said:

I guess you don't understand what full control means.  The strait is still closed because he is negotiating, trying to get a peace deal. You can't be that ate up with Trump to not realize after hitting over 15,000 military and other targets, destroying their navy and air force, if we wanted, we could make a ghost town out of the strait and make it safe to go through. 

Your carrier comment is ridiculous because those vessels are not designed for close quarters.

You’re dreaming, brother.  The strait is closed because Iran says it is.  There hasn’t been a single US warship even try to make a pass through there because they know that they’d be sitting ducks for Iran’s remaining missiles and drones. 
 

We quite simply cannot take control of the strait without owning the ground alongside it, and that would take boots on the ground. It was well known before this excursion was started, but Trump believed that our weapons would scare the Iranians into giving up. It did the opposite.  We’re fighting a military was and they’re fighting an economic one. 
 

And for reference, you’re abjectly wrong.  Our carriers go through the strait of Hormuz anytime they want.  That’s what’s so irritating about the sheople eating up the whole “we have air and sea  control” when it’s obviously a lie. Send a few frigates up there and see what happens. It’s why every day the White House spokespeople are like “the strait isn’t closed… we’ve got reports that Iran allowed two tankers to pass through yesterday.” So why aren’t we floating around out there opening the thing up? Our navy would get pieced up in the Strait. 

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Yes, U.S. Navy aircraft carriers routinely transit the Strait of Hormuz to enter and exit the Persian Gulf as part of routine patrols and to project power in the Middle East, often accompanied by carrier strike groups. Notable recent transits include the USS Abraham Lincoln (2019, 2012) and USS Dwight D. Eisenhower(2023). 

[baddog]

35 minutes ago, TheMissingBand said:

You’re dreaming, brother.  The strait is closed because Iran says it is.  There hasn’t been a single US warship even try to make a pass through there because they know that they’d be sitting ducks for Iran’s remaining missiles and drones. 
 

We quite simply cannot take control of the strait without owning the ground alongside it, and that would take boots on the ground. It was well known before this excursion was started, but Trump believed that our weapons would scare the Iranians into giving up. It did the opposite.  We’re fighting a military was and they’re fighting an economic one. 
 

And for reference, you’re abjectly wrong.  Our carriers go through the strait of Hormuz anytime they want.  That’s what’s so irritating about the sheople eating up the whole “we have air and sea  control” when it’s obviously a lie. Send a few frigates up there and see what happens. It’s why every day the White House spokespeople are like “the strait isn’t closed… we’ve got reports that Iran allowed two tankers to pass through yesterday.” So why aren’t we floating around out there opening the thing up? Our navy would get pieced up in the Strait. 

credit Google

Yes, U.S. Navy aircraft carriers routinely transit the Strait of Hormuz to enter and exit the Persian Gulf as part of routine patrols and to project power in the Middle East, often accompanied by carrier strike groups. Notable recent transits include the USS Abraham Lincoln (2019, 2012) and USS Dwight D. Eisenhower(2023). 

How would you suggest opening it? You seem to have an answer for everything, or should I say….how not to do it?

There are lots of ships passing in the straits. Cargo ships sit high with a minimal draft. Supertankers can be 1200’ long and have a width (beam) of 200+ feet. Their draft can be 80+ feet. These might need center passage to navigate these drafts. They also prefer a mile or two of distance between each other in open seas. Close passage can create a squat effect (attraction) to each other. Ever been fishing in the ship channel and watch a single passing tanker suck all the water away from the bank? These ships can take miles to stop. Can’t take a chance on Iran successfully planting a mine. One sunken tanker could really wreak havoc. 
I have no answer as to how to open the straits. Trump’s doing what he can with diplomacy, without giving them $billions. A little positivity goes a ling way, but some people don’t possess any.

[OlDawg]

The Houthi’s can—and have—hit ships in the Strait as well.

[TheMissingBand]

1 hour ago, baddog said:

How would you suggest opening it? You seem to have an answer for everything, or should I say….how not to do it?

There are lots of ships passing in the straits. Cargo ships sit high with a minimal draft. Supertankers can be 1200’ long and have a width (beam) of 200+ feet. Their draft can be 80+ feet. These might need center passage to navigate these drafts. They also prefer a mile or two of distance between each other in open seas. Close passage can create a squat effect (attraction) to each other. Ever been fishing in the ship channel and watch a single passing tanker suck all the water away from the bank? These ships can take miles to stop. Can’t take a chance on Iran successfully planting a mine. One sunken tanker could really wreak havoc. 
I have no answer as to how to open the straits. Trump’s doing what he can with diplomacy, without giving them $billions. A little positivity goes a ling way, but some people don’t possess any.

I don’t have the answers… but to claim that “we won” when Iran is still firmly in control of Hormuz is just not being honest.  And demanding that they open it immediately isn’t going to do the trick, either.  We’re not in control of the bargaining on this one, and everybody knows it… Trump, too, at this point.  
 

We either come to the table and accept some of their terms, or we’ve got to go the opposite route and do whatever it takes to end them. But I’m afraid we’ll find ourselves fresh out of friends (other than Israel) if we nuke them or start trying to actually take control of the country via land attacks. 
 

The damage is this… the Iranians were a bunch of blowhard Islamic radicals who were getting close to having nuclear devices until we tore them up again last year. But they weren’t “days away from having a nuclear weapon” this time.  Trump thought he could punch them very hard and they’d quit.  In fact, they’ve  just been lying on the ropes and letting us blow through munitions, while simultaneously causing economic pain to us and the rest of the world.  We’re kind of out of goodwill with most of our allies at this point. It’ll be neat to see what happens if this thing drags on. Trump has been pretty silent since the ceasefire fell apart… my guess is that he’s trying really hard to get Israel to agree to lay off of Lebanon.  If Israel won’t agree to stop hostilities, we’ve got to see where we land. It’ll be interesting to see if Trump starts banging on Israel in the next day or so. 
 

Unfortunately, even through their military infrastructure is in tatters, Iran has gained a lot of “clout” through all of this.  We now know for certain that they can’t be bombed into submission, and that they can, and will shut down Hormuz to get what they want.  I see them as strengthened by our attack.

[baddog]

Someone without a better plan should follow the administration that Americans elected to lead us. You post things most of us already know, and repeat your hatred for anything Trump does. Right now, all any of us can do is wait and see.

[TheMissingBand]

39 minutes ago, baddog said:

Someone without a better plan should follow the administration that Americans elected to lead us. You post things most of us already know, and repeat your hatred for anything Trump does. Right now, all any of us can do is wait and see.

He’s an idiot. He literally hired a newscaster who had previously achieved the rank of MAJOR in the Army National guard  to lead all of the generals in the military, rebranded the department of defense as the department of war, knocked over Venezuela, then stepped in poopoo over in Iraq. “The last five presidents WISHED they’d taken care of Iran, but only Trump was bold enough to do it! MAGA!”  No, he was the only one dumb enough to try. 
 

it is completely within our first amendment right to call out incompetence in our elected leaders.  

[baddog]

I’m so glad you can get more of that hate out of you before turning in. It’s good for the soul.

[DCT]

1 hour ago, TheMissingBand said:

I don’t have the answers… but to claim that “we won” when Iran is still firmly in control of Hormuz is just not being honest.  And demanding that they open it immediately isn’t going to do the trick, either.  We’re not in control of the bargaining on this one, and everybody knows it… Trump, too, at this point.  
 

We either come to the table and accept some of their terms, or we’ve got to go the opposite route and do whatever it takes to end them. But I’m afraid we’ll find ourselves fresh out of friends (other than Israel) if we nuke them or start trying to actually take control of the country via land attacks. 
 

The damage is this… the Iranians were a bunch of blowhard Islamic radicals who were getting close to having nuclear devices until we tore them up again last year. But they weren’t “days away from having a nuclear weapon” this time.  Trump thought he could punch them very hard and they’d quit.  In fact, they’ve  just been lying on the ropes and letting us blow through munitions, while simultaneously causing economic pain to us and the rest of the world.  We’re kind of out of goodwill with most of our allies at this point. It’ll be neat to see what happens if this thing drags on. Trump has been pretty silent since the ceasefire fell apart… my guess is that he’s trying really hard to get Israel to agree to lay off of Lebanon.  If Israel won’t agree to stop hostilities, we’ve got to see where we land. It’ll be interesting to see if Trump starts banging on Israel in the next day or so. 
 

Unfortunately, even through their military infrastructure is in tatters, Iran has gained a lot of “clout” through all of this.  We now know for certain that they can’t be bombed into submission, and that they can, and will shut down Hormuz to get what they want.  I see them as strengthened by our attack.

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MAGA turns on itself!

[DCT]

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On 4/8/2026 at 3:37 PM, Reagan said:

Chip Roy said: ""Islam is NOT a Religion! It is a conquering POLITICAL ideology antithetical to Western Civilization...""

Yeah. Christianity was used as the conquering political ideology of Western Civilization. Does that mean it’s not a religion either?

[Porter]

Has Trump screwed up so bad by going to war with Iran that his wife is bringing Epstein back into the news to change the narrative Good Grief 

I guess it’s a new level of chess.