The Save Act

[TheMissingBand]

1 minute ago, baddog said:

Why do you go out on a limb with your hallucinations? If I have to re-register, no problem. How can clearing the voter rolls only affect the dems? Your posts show signs of insecurity. 

No, it doesn’t. It’s reality. When the President has declared:

1. The Dems can’t win a single election without cheating. 

2. The federal government should seize control of elections.

3  Election security is the biggest problem in America today.

4  He will not recognize the results of this election  unless he agrees with them 

5 Plus he tried to stop the peaceful transfer of power after he lost in 2020

6 continues to express belief if the debunked “election fraud” lies of 2020

7  his political party is facing an almost certain defeat in this political cycle, which would derail his agenda and almost certainly lead to impeachment proceedings in Congress

 

I’m sure that he’s just pushing this issue for the good of the country.

 

Question for you… the Rs won bigly in 2024.  Why the sudden need to make over the election process? Why fix what isn’t broken?

 

Because he’s about to lose, sir. 

 

[TheMissingBand]

This is America in 2025… a sheriff from California is running for governor as a Republican. He seized 650,000 ballots because he believes that there was fraud. 

Are y’all cool with that? “Depends… does he support Trump?”

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[baddog]

6 minutes ago, TheMissingBand said:

This is America in 2025… a sheriff from California is running for governor as a Republican. He seized 650,000 ballots because he believes that there was fraud. 

Are y’all cool with that? “Depends… does he support Trump?”

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Two republicans lead the polls. In California, the top two run, no D vs. R. Maybe there’s hope. Last time Cal. was red, they had the top economy in the country, even world ranked. Now they are fleeing. 

[baddog]

15 minutes ago, TheMissingBand said:

Question for you… the Rs won bigly in 2024.  Why the sudden need to make over the election process? Why fix what isn’t broken?

Only over Kamala, thank God for that. Could it have anything to do with 20 million illegals entering the country? Hello.

[baddog]

 

[UT alum]

1 hour ago, TheMissingBand said:

This is America in 2025… a sheriff from California is running for governor as a Republican. He seized 650,000 ballots because he believes that there was fraud. 

Are y’all cool with that? “Depends… does he support Trump?”

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I guess Trump’s declaration of Democrats as cheaters was his probable cause. You know, now that Iran’s nuclear capabilities have been knocked out twice Trump has declared Democrats 

[TheMissingBand]

1 hour ago, baddog said:

Only over Kamala, thank God for that. Could it have anything to do with 20 million illegals entering the country? Hello.

And exactly none of them voted. 

[thetragichippy]

19 minutes ago, UT alum said:

I guess Trump’s declaration of Democrats as cheaters was his probable cause. You know, now that Iran’s nuclear capabilities have been knocked out twice Trump has declared Democrats 

You might want to read more than the headline. There was a discrepancy in the vote count.   A judge issued 2 warrants and the Sherriff agreed to yield the recount to a special master appointed by a Judge.  

This month Shakir Khan, a city council member in California was convicted of a fraud scheme including ballots..... Unfortunately it happens.....we can choose to ignore it or face it......

 

 

[OlDawg]

2 hours ago, TheMissingBand said:

No, it doesn’t. It’s reality. When the President has declared:

1. The Dems can’t win a single election without cheating. 

2. The federal government should seize control of elections.

3  Election security is the biggest problem in America today.

4  He will not recognize the results of this election  unless he agrees with them 

5 Plus he tried to stop the peaceful transfer of power after he lost in 2020

6 continues to express belief if the debunked “election fraud” lies of 2020

7  his political party is facing an almost certain defeat in this political cycle, which would derail his agenda and almost certainly lead to impeachment proceedings in Congress

 

I’m sure that he’s just pushing this issue for the good of the country.

 

Question for you… the Rs won bigly in 2024.  Why the sudden need to make over the election process? Why fix what isn’t broken?

 

Because he’s about to lose, sir. 

 

So, Hakeem Jeffries has stated that ICE will brutalize and/or kill people in airports. When do we expect this to happen? Apparently, it’s reality as well.

[OlDawg]

1 hour ago, TheMissingBand said:

And exactly none of them voted. 

Proof please.

[TheMissingBand]

1 hour ago, OlDawg said:

Proof please.

That’s the difference between a smart person and someone who isn’t very bright. Someone can say “there’s all kinds of voter fraud going on” and the sheep will say “of course there is… there’s no way Joe Biden got more votes than Donald Trump! I have never even seen a Biden hat!” They believe that unsubstantiated claim without hesitation. But when somebody says “there was no fraud,” the response is “proof please.”

And that’s the beautiful part of an accusation of wrongdoing. One should be able to prove their accusation of wrongdoing… that’s why the burden of proof exists solely on the prosecutor (the person making the charge of wrongdoing), not the accused.  Quite simply put sir, one can’t ever prove that something didn’t happen, but if it did actually occur, it must be proven.  Trump should be able to prove his accusations of voter fraud, but he hasn’t, because he can’t… and reasonable people recognize that it’s because the fraud never occurred. 
 

That’s the problem with anybody who believes that election fraud exists… they’re always believing in things unseen and unproven, while simultaneously ignoring facts.  Like an idiot would do. 

[TheMissingBand]

1 hour ago, OlDawg said:

So, Hakeem Jeffries has stated that ICE will brutalize and/or kill people in airports. When do we expect this to happen? Apparently, it’s reality as well.

So ICE is changing up their policies and procedures for this deployment? That’s good news, because three Americans were murdered by ICE on their last one. 
 

Honestly, though… I did see where Trump asked the MAGA agents to NOT wear their masks at the airport, so that’s a step back towards where they should be.

[baddog]

29 minutes ago, TheMissingBand said:

That’s the difference between a smart person and someone who isn’t very bright. Someone can say “there’s all kinds of voter fraud going on” and the sheep will say “of course there is… there’s no way Joe Biden got more votes than Donald Trump! I have never even seen a Biden hat!” They believe that unsubstantiated claim without hesitation. But when somebody says “there was no fraud,” the response is “proof please.”

And that’s the beautiful part of an accusation of wrongdoing. One should be able to prove their accusation of wrongdoing… that’s why the burden of proof exists solely on the prosecutor (the person making the charge of wrongdoing), not the accused.  Quite simply put sir, one can’t ever prove that something didn’t happen, but if it did actually occur, it must be proven.  Trump should be able to prove his accusations of voter fraud, but he hasn’t, because he can’t… and reasonable people recognize that it’s because the fraud never occurred. 
 

That’s the problem with anybody who believes that election fraud exists… they’re always believing in things unseen and unproven, while simultaneously ignoring facts.  Like an idiot would do. 

Man, give up while you’re behind.

[OlDawg]

1 hour ago, TheMissingBand said:

That’s the difference between a smart person and someone who isn’t very bright. Someone can say “there’s all kinds of voter fraud going on” and the sheep will say “of course there is… there’s no way Joe Biden got more votes than Donald Trump! I have never even seen a Biden hat!” They believe that unsubstantiated claim without hesitation. But when somebody says “there was no fraud,” the response is “proof please.”

And that’s the beautiful part of an accusation of wrongdoing. One should be able to prove their accusation of wrongdoing… that’s why the burden of proof exists solely on the prosecutor (the person making the charge of wrongdoing), not the accused.  Quite simply put sir, one can’t ever prove that something didn’t happen, but if it did actually occur, it must be proven.  Trump should be able to prove his accusations of voter fraud, but he hasn’t, because he can’t… and reasonable people recognize that it’s because the fraud never occurred. 
 

That’s the problem with anybody who believes that election fraud exists… they’re always believing in things unseen and unproven, while simultaneously ignoring facts.  Like an idiot would do. 

Aside from your weak attempt to conceal calling me an idiot, you stipulated—in unequivocal terms—that no non-citizen voted.

Prove it, or shut it.

I made no claim one way or the other.

[OlDawg]

1 hour ago, TheMissingBand said:

So ICE is changing up their policies and procedures for this deployment? That’s good news, because three Americans were murdered by ICE on their last one. 
 

Honestly, though… I did see where Trump asked the MAGA agents to NOT wear their masks at the airport, so that’s a step back towards where they should be.

No ICE officers have been formally charged with murder in recent deployments. My understanding is there are investigations ongoing in some instances. Namely the 2 agents that lied. But, even they haven’t been formally charged yet.

This is where you get yourself into a bind. You use very inflammatory language to embellish events, or flat out make up your own events, to get some type of satisfaction to justify your beliefs.

Just state what you have info to back up without the inflammatory language. If it’s bad enough, it will be obvious.

[TheMissingBand]

43 minutes ago, OlDawg said:

Aside from your weak attempt to conceal calling me an idiot, you stipulated—in unequivocal terms—that no non-citizen voted.

Prove it, or shut it.

I made no claim one way or the other.

Okay… you apparently don’t understand the most basic premise of law. A woman walks into the police station and says “TheMissingBand raped me.”  Do the police arrest me and say “ok, Mr Band… prove that you didn’t rape this woman.”

The person making the allegation has ALL OF THE RESPONSIBILITY OF PROVING THEIR ALLEGATION. And that’s the problem… Trump made his accusations about fraud, and never proved a single thing.  Never provided the first shred of evidence. But the most gullible among us think that it’s up to democrats to “prove that voter fraud didn’t happen.”  That’s not how it works.
 

My contention isn’t that fraud occurred, and in 5.5 years Trump just hasn’t finished proving his case. My contention is that fraud didn’t occur, and Trump and his acolytes can’t even come up with the first shred of evidence that widespread fraud occurred.  Trump and Gabbard seized the ballots in Georgie and Arizona since he took office. Don’t you think he’d be in front of a camera talking about all of the fraud they found as a reason to pass the SAVE Act? Of course he would … but there’s no fraud to be found, because it was all a lie, which easily fooled the most unsophisticated of my brethren on the right.   
 

11.3 million Texans voted in 2024   The Republican Secretary of State was able to identify 33 people who voted illegally.  

 

“Texas officials have been actively looking for any possible noncitizens on the rolls, spurred by political pressure to “secure” elections. In June, Texas Secretary of State Jane Nelson (R) announced that her office identified 33 “potential noncitizens” who voted in the 2024 election and 

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 their names to Attorney General Ken Paxton (R). Roughly 11.3 million Texans voted in 2024. 

“Noncitizens must not be allowed to influence American elections,” Paxton said in June.

Paxton has a history of aggressively pursuing nonvoting allegations, often with little evidence. In 2019, his office backed a purge 

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 that falsely flagged nearly 95,000 registered voters — most of them naturalized U.S. citizens. Despite the effort, Paxton’s decades-long campaign to expose voter fraud has produced few convictions, especially in cases involving noncitizens. 

While the investigation continues, as of late July, no charges have been filed, and officials have offered no public evidence that any of the 33 voters knowingly violated the law.”

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I just proved once and for all to anyone with an IQ above room temperature that illegals voting in our elections is a statistical non issue.  33 out of 11.3 million voters were listed as potentially breaking election laws. 

[Reagan]

6 hours ago, TheMissingBand said:

And exactly none of them voted. 

And exactly you don’t know that!

[TheMissingBand]

5 minutes ago, Reagan said:

And exactly you don’t know that!

I just posted the link. In Texas alone in 2024, 11.3 million people voted. The REPUBLICAN Secretary of State identified 33 potential instances where noncitizens MIGHT have voted. 33 out of 11,300,000. That is what we call statistically non-existent. 

[Reagan]

27 minutes ago, TheMissingBand said:

I just posted the link. In Texas alone in 2024, 11.3 million people voted. The REPUBLICAN Secretary of State identified 33 potential instances where noncitizens MIGHT have voted. 33 out of 11,300,000. That is what we call statistically non-existent. 

Democracy Docket is a left-wing political hack site!  You gotta do better than this!  

[Reagan]

33 minutes ago, TheMissingBand said:

I just posted the link. In Texas alone in 2024, 11.3 million people voted. The REPUBLICAN Secretary of State identified 33 potential instances where noncitizens MIGHT have voted. 33 out of 11,300,000. That is what we call statistically non-existent. 

Here ya go!

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[TheMissingBand]

Well, would you accept confirmation from the man you want to be the next state senator from Texas?

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So are me and Ken Paxton correct when we say that we could only find 33 instances from 2024 to investigate? It makes me wonder how many actually voted illegally? All 33? 10? None? We know it won’t be more than 33. 
 

One of things need to happen… you need to either apologize for being obstinate and admit that non-citizens voting in Texas elections is a complete lie by the Trump administration, or admit that Ken Paxton is a no-good lying RINO whose hiding millions of illegal voters and promise not to vote for him.  Because one of them has to be lying.
 

So which one do you believe. Trump or Paxton?

 

Son, you should thank me for the education I provide to you free of charge, other than some embarrassment to you. But if you ever even have a dream in which you think I’m wrong, you need to apologize to me when you wake up.  

 

[Reagan]

1 hour ago, TheMissingBand said:

Well, would you accept confirmation from the man you want to be the next state senator from Texas?

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So are me and Ken Paxton correct when we say that we could only find 33 instances from 2024 to investigate? It makes me wonder how many actually voted illegally? All 33? 10? None? We know it won’t be more than 33. 
 

One of things need to happen… you need to either apologize for being obstinate and admit that non-citizens voting in Texas elections is a complete lie by the Trump administration, or admit that Ken Paxton is a no-good lying RINO whose hiding millions of illegal voters and promise not to vote for him.  Because one of them has to be lying.
 

So which one do you believe. Trump or Paxton?

 

Son, you should thank me for the education I provide to you free of charge, other than some embarrassment to you. But if you ever even have a dream in which you think I’m wrong, you need to apologize to me when you wake up.  

 

It's tough to vote illegally in Texas because of voter ID.  We need to do an in-depth study of all of the blue States and see what we find.  Commielina Harris won States that doesn't have voter ID.  And what States are fighting voter ID?!

[Reagan]

 

This will help tremendously!  Election "Day" means something!!  Not election days, weeks or months!

[Reagan]

 

Yes!!