Greenland

[DCT]

On 1/14/2026 at 8:40 PM, mat said:

Honest question. How is this different than Putin/Russia taking Ukraine?

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I attempted to listen to his speech in Switzerland and it was a total embarrassment.  He rumbled on about how the 2020 election was stolen and that many people are going to be prosecuted for it. He also suggested taken Greenland by force. You all may not want to admit it but Trump suffering from dementia and he is declining fast.  He sleeps doing important meetings.
Trump is not running the country,  Stephen Miller is the brains behind the operation.  
 

LT.  I laughed also.

[DCT]

20 minutes ago, DCT said:

I attempted to listen to his speech in Switzerland and it was a total embarrassment.  He rumbled on about how the 2020 election was stolen and that many people are going to be prosecuted for it. He also suggested taken Greenland by force. You all may not want to admit it but Trump suffering from dementia and he is declining fast.  He sleeps doing important meetings.
Trump is not running the country,  Stephen Miller is the brains behind the operation.  

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LT.  your thoughts?

[DCT]

7 minutes ago, DCT said:

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LT.  your thoughts?

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[LumRaiderFan]

6 minutes ago, DCT said:

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Regan?

Did you even read the article, where’s the money going?

[LumRaiderFan]

17 minutes ago, DCT said:

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LT.  your thoughts?

Should we give congress access to the money to make sure it doesn’t go back to the Venezuelan people and gets spent on illegals and ACA subsidies?

 

[DCT]

23 minutes ago, LumRaiderFan said:

Did you even read the article, where’s the money going?

Do you believe it?  Why not place the money where Congress can decide?

We the people voted for both the house and senate for checks and balances.

[LumRaiderFan]

3 minutes ago, DCT said:

Do you believe it?  Why not place the money where Congress can decide?

We the people voted for both the house and senate for checks and balances.

So you trust Congress to get this money back to the Venezuelan people?

By the way, if you don’t start responding to articles I post, I’m not wasting my time responding to yours.

Try defending your democrats every now and then rather than bashing Trump 24/7.

If you can.

[DCT]

1 minute ago, LumRaiderFan said:

So you trust Congress to get this money back to the Venezuelan people?

By the way, if you don’t start responding to articles I post, I’m not wasting my time responding to yours.

Try defending your democrats every now and then rather than bashing Trump 24/7.

If you can.

I’m not Democrat.  Never Trumper.  So that’s that.  I don’t bash Trump he does a lot of that on his on.  I just respond and post news articles that talk about his decisions and his actions when he is addressing the country or the nation. I don’t bashTrump 24/7? I’m not on the forum like that.  I check in to read all those that agree with Trump on some things that are questionable like opening an account in Qatar.  If that is bashing then I’m guilty.  As far as his metal health he is doing the same thing Biden was doing.  Sleeping, forgetting and bringing up the 2020 election when it has nothing to do with the subject. 

[DCT]

2 minutes ago, DCT said:

I’m not Democrat.  Never Trumper.  So that’s that.  I don’t bash Trump he does a lot of that on his on.  I just respond and post news articles that talk about his decisions and his actions when he is addressing the country or the nation. I don’t bashTrump 24/7? I’m not on the forum like that.  I check in to read all those that agree with Trump on some things that are questionable like opening an account in Qatar.  If that is bashing then I’m guilty.  As far as his metal health he is doing the same thing Biden was doing.  Sleeping, forgetting and bringing up the 2020 election when it has nothing to do with the subject. 

To answer your question.  I do not trust this administration period. 
Democrats do not control the house and senate.  If your asking me to defend republicans who crossed party lines and sided with democrats I won’t do that either.

[mat]

I’m a moderate conservative and support a fair amount of Trumps actions, but some really bother me.

i caught the back half of yesterdays speech and it was embarrassing. 

[LumRaiderFan]

19 minutes ago, mat said:

I’m a moderate conservative and support a fair amount of Trumps actions, but some really bother me.

i caught the back half of yesterdays speech and it was embarrassing. 

A lot of Trump’s actions make me cringe, but for the most part, have been pleased with results.

[OlDawg]

7 minutes ago, LumRaiderFan said:

A lot of Trump’s actions make me cringe, but for the most part, have been pleased with results.

He’s getting bad advice on Greenland.

[LumRaiderFan]

39 minutes ago, OlDawg said:

He’s getting bad advice on Greenland.

Sure seems that way.

I can understand trying to work a deal to somehow beef up security on a very strategic location, but I don’t understand the need for the bull in the china shop approach.

But it is, after all, Trump, and it’s been successful in the past.

[baddog]

11 minutes ago, LumRaiderFan said:

Sure seems that way.

I can understand trying to work a deal to somehow beef up security on a very strategic location, but I don’t understand the need for the bull in the china shop approach.

But it is, after all, Trump, and it’s been successful in the past.

Trump knows how to make people get the lead out. European show no gratitude. I believe all his tough talk is a tactic. I have been wrong before.

[LumRaiderFan]

4 minutes ago, baddog said:

Trump knows how to make people get the lead out. European show no gratitude. I believe all his tough talk is a tactic. I have been wrong before.

His tough talk has always been a tactic, threaten for 100%, settle for 10%, which was the original target.

Politicians aren’t supposed to operate like that, lol.

[OlDawg]

1 hour ago, baddog said:

Trump knows how to make people get the lead out. European show no gratitude. I believe all his tough talk is a tactic. I have been wrong before.

 

1 hour ago, LumRaiderFan said:

His tough talk has always been a tactic, threaten for 100%, settle for 10%, which was the original target.

Politicians aren’t supposed to operate like that, lol.

Y'all are missing the point. The U.S. already has unfettered authority to do whatever they want on Greenland with a tacit 'check-in' to the local representative and Denmark. I've previously posted the agreements and links to the others. So, there's nothing to really be gained on the defensive front.

As far as the minerals/resources, to my knowledge there's no technology available that would make these safely accessible in any near term future. I don't know how many fools there are that would be willing to invest billions in a smallish, unstable icesheet with an island that's less than 1/4 of the size of the contiguous U.S. Not to mention, the power requirements that would be needed to even contemplate much development.

At the height of it's population, Greenland has had a little under 60,000 people. Most are indigenous, and don't want to be a part of Denmark or the U.S. They want independence, and to live in their own 'tribalish' way. They speak their own language, lack any in-depth technical knowledge, and seem to have no desire to change. They survive on ancestral fishing techniques, and massive subsidies from Denmark. Without Denmark's subsidies, they wouldn't survive. The Dem's would be happy. They'd have 3 places they could add Senators after adding statehood. Greenland, Puerto Rico, and D.C. All 3 would be basically guaranteed liberal strongholds. Greenland is socialist already.

For all the kudos about cutting budgets with DOGE, why the heck would you want to take on a 'forever' welfare territory that really offers nothing you don't already have? If you must, create formal, indefinite land leases with air & sea rights similar to Gitmo. Make them survivable regardless of whether Denmark remains in charge, or Greenland goes independent. When you have a bigger footprint, possibly bring some development, and show the population what CAN be, maybe they will be more perceptive to a merger. If China or Russia come calling, make sure the arrangement has a ‘right of first refusal’, or a block on non-NATO ownership/leases. Until then, you have all the access necessary without the cost. Use it.

Greenland isn’t Venezuela. Far from it.

Unless it's all about ego...

[Reagan]

Concerning Greenland, Denmark is in violation of their NATO responsibility.  They have to be able to defend their territory.  They can't defend Greenland with 2 dog sleds!

[OlDawg]

1 minute ago, Reagan said:

Concerning Greenland, Denmark is in violation of their NATO responsibility.  They have to be able to defend their territory.  They can't defend Greenland with 2 dog sleds!

Who is attacking them right now? Wasn’t aware they were under attack…

[baddog]

What did I miss? No one knows what Trump has up his sleeve. Trump is a narcissist. I don’t care. He gets results and has the world listen to his every word. I’ve already looked up the facts about Greenland and am sitting back waiting to see what gives. NATO is already a welfare state with the U.S. kicking in about 75%. Ungrateful Europeans.

[Reagan]

1 minute ago, OlDawg said:

Who is attacking them right now? Wasn’t aware they were under attack…

It's my understanding it's in the NATO charter that "if" attacked they have to defend their territory.  The point is they can't defend Greenland. 

[Reagan]

Trump announces framework of a future deal on Greenland has been reached.  Because of this agreement Trump has dropped the tariffs!  

[OlDawg]

2 minutes ago, baddog said:

What did I miss? No one knows what Trump has up his sleeve. Trump is a narcissist. I don’t care. He gets results and has the world listen to his every word. I’ve already looked up the facts about Greenland and am sitting back waiting to see what gives. NATO is already a welfare state with the U.S. kicking in about 75%. Ungrateful Europeans.

You’re missing the point that Greenland is pretty much a worthless piece of ice for the foreseeable future that you’d be paying a heck of a lot for, with a guarantee of forever welfare for the people, and gain nothing you don’t already have when you’re already over $38 Trillion in debt.

[Reagan]

5 hours ago, DCT said:

I attempted to listen to his speech in Switzerland and it was a total embarrassment.  He rumbled on about how the 2020 election was stolen and that many people are going to be prosecuted for it. He also suggested taken Greenland by force. You all may not want to admit it but Trump suffering from dementia and he is declining fast.  He sleeps doing important meetings.
Trump is not running the country,  Stephen Miller is the brains behind the operation.  
 

LT.  I laughed also.

This lady said it was a great speech.  Were ya'll listening to the same speech?

[LumRaiderFan]

29 minutes ago, OlDawg said:

 

Y'all are missing the point. The U.S. already has unfettered authority to do whatever they want on Greenland with a tacit 'check-in' to the local representative and Denmark. I've previously posted the agreements and links to the others. So, there's nothing to really be gained on the defensive front.

As far as the minerals/resources, to my knowledge there's no technology available that would make these safely accessible in any near term future. I don't know how many fools there are that would be willing to invest billions in a smallish, unstable icesheet with an island that's less than 1/4 of the size of the contiguous U.S. Not to mention, the power requirements that would be needed to even contemplate much development.

At the height of it's population, Greenland has had a little under 60,000 people. Most are indigenous, and don't want to be a part of Denmark or the U.S. They want independence, and to live in their own 'tribalish' way. They speak their own language, lack any in-depth technical knowledge, and seem to have no desire to change. They survive on ancestral fishing techniques, and massive subsidies from Denmark. Without Denmark's subsidies, they wouldn't survive. The Dem's would be happy. They'd have 3 places they could add Senators after adding statehood. Greenland, Puerto Rico, and D.C. All 3 would be basically guaranteed liberal strongholds. Greenland is socialist already.

For all the kudos about cutting budgets with DOGE, why the heck would you want to take on a 'forever' welfare territory that really offers nothing you don't already have? If you must, create formal, indefinite land leases with air & sea rights similar to Gitmo. Make them survivable regardless of whether Denmark remains in charge, or Greenland goes independent. When you have a bigger footprint, possibly bring some development, and show the population what CAN be, maybe they will be more perceptive to a merger. If China or Russia come calling, make sure the arrangement has a ‘right of first refusal’, or a block on non-NATO ownership/leases. Until then, you have all the access necessary without the cost. Use it.

Greenland isn’t Venezuela. Far from it.

Unless it's all about ego...

I’m sure there’s ego involved, it is Trump after all.

But I have no doubt this is being driven by the China or Russia come calling that you mentioned, and no doubt, he would love to be the President that got this done.

Not saying I agree, haven’t commented on this much, just think a guaranteed US safety barrier from the bad guys is his motivation.

[LumRaiderFan]

17 minutes ago, OlDawg said:

You’re missing the point that Greenland is pretty much a worthless piece of ice for the foreseeable future that you’d be paying a heck of a lot for, with a guarantee of forever welfare for the people, and gain nothing you don’t already have when you’re already over $38 Trillion in debt.

This would be money spent for national security, which isn’t what has gotten us in the financial mess we’re in.