Reagan Posted Thursday at 09:48 PM Report Posted Thursday at 09:48 PM I think that's the point -- stop the money from going to illegals and they'll leave or they won't come! A show of hands: Who actually pays taxes to give money to illegals? Anybody? Let's see, I see a lot of hands go up on the left side of the aisle. Well bless your heart! LOL! Quote
UT alum Posted 3 hours ago Report Posted 3 hours ago On 12/25/2025 at 3:48 PM, Reagan said: I think that's the point -- stop the money from going to illegals and they'll leave or they won't come! A show of hands: Who actually pays taxes to give money to illegals? Anybody? Let's see, I see a lot of hands go up on the left side of the aisle. Well bless your heart! LOL! Who is Mila Joy? Quote
Reagan Posted 3 hours ago Author Report Posted 3 hours ago 9 minutes ago, UT alum said: Who is Mila Joy? The one stating the facts! 😉 Quote
LumRaiderFan Posted 3 hours ago Report Posted 3 hours ago 17 minutes ago, UT alum said: Who is Mila Joy? Doesn’t matter, if these aren’t facts, prove it. Quote
AggiesAreWe Posted 2 hours ago Report Posted 2 hours ago I actually would like to know. Who is Mila Joy? Quote
Porter Posted 1 hour ago Report Posted 1 hour ago Personally I don’t care if Elmer Fudd posted these statistics. If they are indeed true that’s very disturbing. Reagan 1 Quote
LumRaiderFan Posted 1 hour ago Report Posted 1 hour ago 3 minutes ago, Porter said: Personally I don’t care if Elmer Fudd posted these statistics. If they are indeed true that’s very disturbing. Exactly right, even the National Enquirer scooped big stories, Rush Limbaugh, Tiger Woods and John Edwards. It’s easier to dismiss the source if you can’t dispute the information. Quote
UT alum Posted 1 hour ago Report Posted 1 hour ago 5 minutes ago, Porter said: Personally I don’t care if Elmer Fudd posted these statistics. If they are indeed true that’s very disturbing. Figures. Fictional characters may as well be where you get your info. It’s not disturbing because it is t true. Quote
UT alum Posted 1 hour ago Report Posted 1 hour ago 1 hour ago, LumRaiderFan said: Doesn’t matter, if these aren’t facts, prove it. 1 hour ago, LumRaiderFan said: Doesn’t matter, if these aren’t facts, prove it. This is the hidden content, please Sign In or Sign Up This is the hidden content, please Sign In or Sign Up Quote
OlDawg Posted 1 hour ago Report Posted 1 hour ago The effect on food and welfare support to the poor in the government shutdown has revealed that the noncitizen and illegal immigrant community has been benefiting from the taxpayer-funded programs more than American citizens — by far. This is the hidden content, please Sign In or Sign Up Quote
Porter Posted 1 hour ago Report Posted 1 hour ago 48 minutes ago, UT alum said: Figures. Fictional characters may as well be where you get your info. It’s not disturbing because it is t true. Sounds like someone has the sads again. Quote
OlDawg Posted 56 minutes ago Report Posted 56 minutes ago 57 minutes ago, UT alum said: Figures. Fictional characters may as well be where you get your info. It’s not disturbing because it is t true. I'm not going to go line-by-line through census data right now. But, SIPP (Census Bureau) numbers do show a majority of households receiving SNAP and/or WIC benefits are headed up by illegal immigrant 'heads of households' applying for their children. Of all immigrant-headed households (naturalized citizens and non-citizens) with young children, 43 percent are dependent on at least one of these programs. This is the hidden content, please Sign In or Sign Up Quote
Porter Posted 54 minutes ago Report Posted 54 minutes ago 1 minute ago, OlDawg said: I'm not going to go line-by-line through census data right now. But, SIPP (Census Bureau) numbers do show a majority of households receiving SNAP and/or WIC benefits are headed up by illegal immigrant 'heads of households.' You just made him most saddest. Lol Quote
OlDawg Posted 46 minutes ago Report Posted 46 minutes ago 11 minutes ago, Porter said: You just made him most saddest. Lol It's a real issue, and ties back into the birthright citizenship question before SCOTUS. Not just who people think either. There are thousands of Chinese nationals who are paying surrogate American mothers to have their children for access to benefits. This is the hidden content, please Sign In or Sign Up Friedman succinctly stated--paraphrased--you can't have open borders and a welfare state. That's one of the reasons why I (as a conservative libertarian, for lack of a better definition) have always been against the Libertarian Party position of open borders unless we do away with the welfare state first. Which will never happen... Porter 1 Quote
Porter Posted 38 minutes ago Report Posted 38 minutes ago 13 minutes ago, OlDawg said: It's a real issue, and ties back into the birthright citizenship question before SCOTUS. Not just who people think either. There are thousands of Chinese nationals who are paying surrogate American mothers to have their children for access to benefits. Friedman succinctly stated--paraphrased--you can't have open borders and a welfare state. That's one of the reasons why I (as a conservative libertarian, for lack of a better definition) have always been against the Libertarian Party position of open borders unless we do away with the welfare state first. Which will never happen... You sir are correct. Milton Friedman speaks truth. I believe this is the quote you are referring to. "I am in favor of free immigration, but not if you have a welfare state. The United States had free immigration throughout 19th century, and up until World War I, really. But that was possible because the United States was not a welfare state. He also said "When you start paying people to be poor, you wind up with an awful lot of poor people." Quote
LumRaiderFan Posted 32 minutes ago Report Posted 32 minutes ago 1 hour ago, UT alum said: This is the hidden content, please Sign In or Sign Up This is the hidden content, please Sign In or Sign Up No really, post valid data that actually counters Reagan’s post. Quote
AggiesAreWe Posted 32 minutes ago Report Posted 32 minutes ago So no one knows who is Mila Joy? Quote
OlDawg Posted 30 minutes ago Report Posted 30 minutes ago Just now, AggiesAreWe said: So no one knows who is Mila Joy? Looked up. She’s just a MAGA social media influencer. I wouldn’t trust her data unless she shows where it came from. Quote
AggiesAreWe Posted 28 minutes ago Report Posted 28 minutes ago 1 hour ago, Porter said: Personally I don’t care if Elmer Fudd posted these statistics. If they are indeed true that’s very disturbing. If?? I thought some here said it was facts? Can we get a confirmation? Another source besides a person that nobody knows. Quote
AggiesAreWe Posted 27 minutes ago Report Posted 27 minutes ago 1 minute ago, OlDawg said: Looked up. She’s just a MAGA social media influencer. I wouldn’t trust her data unless she shows where it came from. THIS!!!!! Looking at her X account, she is a wife, mom and MAGA/Trump supporter. That's it. Why would we take that data seriously? Quote
AggiesAreWe Posted 20 minutes ago Report Posted 20 minutes ago 1 hour ago, LumRaiderFan said: Exactly right, even the National Enquirer scooped big stories, Rush Limbaugh, Tiger Woods and John Edwards. It’s easier to dismiss the source if you can’t dispute the information. So people are just suppose to believe what this person posted to her X account? Just because she is a MAGA/Trump supporter? Can you verify that data from an actual government source? Quote
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