Dayton (61) @ Nederland (59) - FINAL

[spidersal]

I was at that game and Georgetown destroyed the Bulldogs. It wasn’t even close

[Mr. Buddy Garrity]

5 minutes ago, spidersal said:

I was at that game and Georgetown destroyed the Bulldogs. It wasn’t even close

Georgetown was legit that year. Went to State and lost to Guyer if I remember correctly. 

[KF89]

2 hours ago, spidersal said:

Anyone know when Nederland last fielded a good defense. I know it had to be before 2007

2009, 2010,2011, 2012, 2013, 2017, 2018 

[spidersal]

Thanks. Neumann must of still been there. I know they didn’t play good defense when Barrow took over and Rich’s 1st 2 seasons have been bad defenses 

[KF89]

On 10/4/2025 at 9:52 PM, spidersal said:

Thanks. Neumann must of still been there. I know they didn’t play good defense when Barrow took over and Rich’s 1st 2 seasons have been bad defenses 

I believe Delbert Spell was still the DC for Monte Barrows 1st 2 years as head coach 2017 & 2018.  ‘17 team went 8-3 , defense was solid, top 2 defense in district,  had 2 DB’s that year with 8 picks each, both earned all state recognition, team interception total was like 30, lost in the 2nd rd. to loaded Manvel team.  ‘18 defense, top 2 again in district, started season 9-0, finished 10-2  co- district champs, lost in 2nd rd to Marshall. The 2010, ‘11, ‘12 & 13 teams were loaded with strong defenses that won 4 district titles in a row, i believe without losing a district game in that run.  

[spidersal]

Delbert must have still been there in Barrows 1st 2 seasons because since he retired they have been awful 

[1970]

I hate that this game ended in the manner that it did. But it was a crazy game from the get go, sort of.  Or perhaps from the mishandled kick off. I saw BU mishandle a kick-off like that against PNG in '22. Going way back to the 60s, Groves Jr High recovered two kickoffs for TDs in a row against Port Arthur Edison Jr High. The Edison coach was livid.  

[BADSANTA]

13 hours ago, spidersal said:

I was at that game and Georgetown destroyed the Bulldogs. It wasn’t even close

Was that at the Berry Center in Cypress? I live close enough to walk. 2018?

[Darth Texas]

1 hour ago, BADSANTA said:

Was that at the Berry Center in Cypress? I live close enough to walk. 2018?

2012

[Bulldogpower]

2012 is the peak in recent history. Back then it wasn't like it is now, we always pulled the school that was "going to move to 5A" the next year. 
 

Now it's more closely aligned with the D1 and D2 

[outanup]

3 hours ago, Bulldogpower said:

2012 is the peak in recent history. Back then it wasn't like it is now, we always pulled the school that was "going to move to 5A" the next year. 
 

Now it's more closely aligned with the D1 and D2 

We went big school every year back then.....That's a different animal.

 

[A BUC 77]

I know losing is painful, but I like the fight.  Congrats to Dayton, who always brings something to the party.  Defense needs some shoring up.  Maybe it's time for some guys to go both ways.  

[jayhawk]

1 hour ago, A BUC 77 said:

I know losing is painful, but I like the fight.  Congrats to Dayton, who always brings something to the party.  Defense needs some shoring up.  Maybe it's time for some guys to go both ways.  

This game was a dog fight for sure - So far Daytons offense usually puts up alot of points on most teams we play. So I don't think Neds defense needs that much tweaking .Daytons defense on the other hand ???? Good  luck to Big Ned the rest of the season!

[OldDog95]

2020 defense wasn't bad, probably the best team Barrow had and the last team to go 3 rounds deep 

[KF89]

3 hours ago, OldDog95 said:

2020 defense wasn't bad, probably the best team Barrow had and the last team to go 3 rounds deep 

Best 3 teams with Monte Barrow as head coach (In order by year)

2017- 11 Games- 8-3 overall, 6-2 in district, Points Allowed-216, Points Scored- 362, Lost to Manvel 2nd Rd.

2018- 12 Games- 10-2 overall, 6-1 in district, Points Allowed- 264, Points Scored- 378, Lost to Marshall 2nd Rd.

2020- 12 Games- 8-4 overall, 6-1 in district, Points Allowed- 283, Points Scored-350, Lost to Ft. Bend Marshall 3rd Rd.

[spidersal]

So they averaged giving up 19 points a game in 2017, 22 points a game in 2018, and 23 points a game in 2020

I would say the points allowed per game those 3 seasons were nothing to write home about. Good seasons, but not very good defense. IMO you have a good defensive team if you average giving up 14 or less

[Bulldogpower]

1 hour ago, spidersal said:

So they averaged giving up 19 points a game in 2017, 22 points a game in 2018, and 23 points a game in 2020

I would say the points allowed per game those 3 seasons were nothing to write home about. Good seasons, but not very good defense. IMO you have a good defensive team if you average giving up 14 or less

What about 2012? Idk those numbers