Government Shutdown

[mat]

6 hours ago, Reagan said:

Concerning the Schumer shutdown:

Democrats have voted for a “clean” continuing resolution (CR) to keep the government open 13 times in recent years, primarily during the Biden administration from 2021 through March 2025.

A “clean CR” refers to a short-term funding extension that keeps spending at current levels without additional policy conditions. These Democratic votes occurred under prior divided-government negotiations where both parties agreed to avoid government shutdowns. However, since the current shutdown began on October 1, 2025, Democrats have opposed at least 10 separate clean CR votes in the Senate introduced by Republicans.

In summary:

Period	Votes by Democrats for clean CRs	Notes
2021–March 2025	13 times	All under Biden administration to avoid shutdowns
October 2025	0 votes in favor (10 times voted against)	Ongoing impasse during Trump administration

 

 

Overall, Democrats have a record of 13 prior votes supporting clean CRs but have not supported any of the 10 clean CR proposals brought to the Senate during the current 2025 shutdown.

 

 

 

 

I’m no Schumer fan, but he voted to approve the budget in March (Trump administration) to avoid a government shutdown. 

[thetragichippy]

2 hours ago, mat said:

I’m no Schumer fan, but he voted to approve the budget in March (Trump administration) to avoid a government shutdown. 

And he received a lot of flack from his base. 

He is in a bad situation.  I think he is hoping some other Democrats vote to spare him this time

[thetragichippy]

Here is the problem Democrats face. The shutdown is not being blamed on Trump. 

Trump as of today has an AVERAGE approval rating of 45.5% 

On the same polling site, Obama had an AVERAGE approval rating of 43.7% on Oct 21st in the first year of his second term, so apples to apples.....

If you look at the favorability ratings, leaders in Congress and senate on both sides don't look great, but Republicans have a slightly better favorability than Democrats......

I predict enough Dem's vote yes to get this thing through by the end of the week.

 

[Reagan]

 

We know they don't care.  Talk is cheap! 

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[Reagan]

[UT alum]

On 10/23/2025 at 1:35 PM, Reagan said:

 

We know they don't care.  Talk is cheap! 

@Big girl  @UT alum  @DCT  @Boyz N Da Hood          What say you?!

They care about access to healthcare for the least among us. Federal workers know the shutdown game. The vote was nothing but grandstanding by a sick Republican majority.

[tvc184]

I just watched the Democrat Minority Whip say that to shut downs are “terrible” and that the people will suffer.

But… the Democrats are doing it for it “leverage” because the Republicans won’t meet with them?

Is that like when the Democrats were in control and would not meet with the Republicans? Perhaps in their opinion that only goes one way.

So a major Democrat representative said that they know families would suffer and they know that the shutdown is terrible, but they will not vote to pay the workers so they can get political leverage.

Got it! Thanks for the admission. 

[Reagan]

On 10/25/2025 at 1:15 PM, UT alum said:

They care about access to healthcare for the least among us. Federal workers know the shutdown game. The vote was nothing but grandstanding by a sick Republican majority.

Let me clarify for you:  The Dems are pushing healthcare for illegals!  Again -- they need the votes!  But Trump is taking care of that.  That's what I voted for!

[baddog]

Since all of us taxpayers are funding this government, can we all get a refund for the shutdown?

[Eagle11]

One thing people are seeing during the schumer shutdown is how many people rely on the government for food.

3.5 million Texans alone will lose food stamps. In a state of 31 million. 11% of Texans rely on federal money to eat. That is not help and assistance, that is lack of drive and will power for one's self and family.

Living off the government has become a career for many (not all but many). As with everything the government touches it cannot properly oversee and run things. And they want to oversee our healthcare.

[thetragichippy]

2 hours ago, Eagle11 said:

One thing people are seeing during the schumer shutdown is how many people rely on the government for food.

3.5 million Texans alone will lose food stamps. In a state of 31 million. 11% of Texans rely on federal money to eat. That is not help and assistance, that is lack of drive and will power for one's self and family.

Living off the government has become a career for many (not all but many). As with everything the government touches it cannot properly oversee and run things. And they want to oversee our healthcare.

I think this is the elephant in the room that no one wants to address.  There are so many people that work crappy jobs to support themselves and their families and never think getting government assistance.  Yet there are TOO MANY that just accept Government assistance. 

We somehow have to convince people they will he happier and have a sense of pride when they work and EARN a living.....

My Father taught me several things, but his most important were life lessons......here are the ones that stuck with me (that I also taught my Son)

1.  There is no embarrassment in having a low wage job  - embarrassment is when you have no job. 

2.  When you are at work, if there is nothing to do, grab a shovel and dig a hole......when you're done, if there is still nothing to do, fill it up. Repeat until there is something to do lol

3.  Never place your hands in your pocket when you are at work, that is a sign of lazy. 

 

So basically his thoughts were there is no reason to not have a job. He worked an instrument mechanic for  "Gulf" and very good at that job. When they would strike, he would go work at the Orange Rice Mill slinging sacks of rice off the trains, or work at a body shop, painting cars. 

He was a worker! THAT is the mentality we need to establish in 2025 - too many people expect things for free and the Government has also been a player making it too easy to get free stuff. 

 

[Eagle11]

2 minutes ago, thetragichippy said:

I think this is the elephant in the room that no one wants to address.  There are so many people that work crappy jobs to support themselves and their families and never think getting government assistance. 

We somehow have to convince people they will he happier and have a since of pride when they work and EARN a living.....

My Father taught me several things, but his most important were life lessons......here are the ones that stuck with me (that I also taught my Son)

1.  There is no embarrassment in having a low wage job  - embarrassment is when you have no job. 

2.  When you are at work, if there is nothing to do, grab a shovel and dig a hole......when you're done, if there is still nothing to do, fill it up. Repeat until there is something to do lol

3.  Never place your hands in your pocket when you are at work, that is a sign of lazy. 

 

So basically his thoughts were there is no reason to not have a job. He worked an instrument mechanic for  "Gulf" and very good at that job. When they would strike, he would go work at the Orange Rice Mill slinging sacks of rice off the trains, or work at a body shop, painting cars. 

He was a worker! THAT is the mentality we need to establish in 2025 - too many people expect things for free and the Government has also been a player making it too easy to get free stuff. 

 

Also, no job is beneath you when you have no job.

[Reagan]

 

Brutal!!

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[LumRaiderFan]

20 minutes ago, Reagan said:

 

Brutal!!

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Looks like some folks can figure out who’s responsible for the shutdown instead of being told.

[DCT]

1 hour ago, LumRaiderFan said:

Looks like some folks can figure out who’s responsible for the shutdown instead of being told.

The people on SNAP know who’s responsible for the shutdown.  They see it and feel it.  It is illegal to hold on to funds.  

[DCT]

2 minutes ago, DCT said:

The people on SNAP know who’s responsible for the shutdown.  They see it and feel it.  It is illegal to hold on to funds.  

While the federal government funds and sets the monthly amount of SNAP benefits, states are responsible for administering programs in their state. Suspending SNAP benefits in this manner is both contrary to law and arbitrary and capricious under the Administrative Procedure Act

[baddog]

4 minutes ago, DCT said:

While the federal government funds and sets the monthly amount of SNAP benefits, states are responsible for administering programs in their state. Suspending SNAP benefits in this manner is both contrary to law and arbitrary and capricious under the Administrative Procedure Act

Saw a guy who took job applications to SNAP protest. 

[DCT]

3 minutes ago, baddog said:

Saw a guy who took job applications to SNAP protest. 

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Trump owns the shutdown and he wants Americans to know.

[baddog]

6 minutes ago, DCT said:

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Trump owns the shutdown and he wants Americans to know.

How childish can you be?

[DCT]

1 minute ago, baddog said:

How childish can you be?

You should be asking that to Johnson. How selfish can you be?

[baddog]

1 minute ago, DCT said:

You should be asking that to Johnson. How selfish can you be?

You always say people’s words back to them. How childish. Use your own words. Anyone who thinks this shutdown is on Trump is off their rocker. Dems will allow people to suffer, then finally give in and say, “Look how we saved all of you”. Dems, the resistance party. 

[DCT]

1 minute ago, baddog said:

You always say people’s words back to them. How childish. Use your own words. Anyone who thinks this shutdown is on Trump is off their rocker. Dems will allow people to suffer, then finally give in and say, “Look how we saved all of you”. Dems, the resistance party. 

How many people in the Golden Triangle are on Snap?  You think it’s cute that this administration wants to not feed the families with kids?  Yet, we shuffle out 20 billion to other countries.

[baddog]

9 minutes ago, DCT said:

How many people in the Golden Triangle are on Snap?  You think it’s cute that this administration wants to not feed the families with kids?  Yet, we shuffle out 20 billion to other countries.

Cute????? What do you know about the GT? The mandate is to work 15 hours a week. I would think it’s the parents that are too lazy to feed their kids. If they’re on SNAP, they get two free meals a day at school, then eat off SNAP at home. Now, who’s denying the kids?????

[DCT]

8 minutes ago, baddog said:

Cute????? What do you know about the GT? The mandate is to work 15 hours a week. I would think it’s the parents that are too lazy to feed their kids. If they’re on SNAP, they get two free meals a day at school, then eat off SNAP at home. Now, who’s denying the kids?????

What does that have to do with current situation? 

[baddog]

8 minutes ago, DCT said:

What does that have to do with current situation? 

Everything. That the best you got?