thetragichippy Posted 3 hours ago Report Posted 3 hours ago THERE IS NO LIST!!! THERE HAS NEVER BEEN A LIST. baddog 1 Quote
LumRaiderFan Posted 3 hours ago Report Posted 3 hours ago 26 minutes ago, OlDawg said: Not sure Republicans would do it anyway. They’re as bad as the Dems now. They may say they want cuts. But, they’re perfectly content to sit back until someone else does the cutting and takes the heat. House Freedom Caucus is the only group even trying to hold a budget. They’re the Ron Paul’s of this generation. Everyone calls them crazy troublemakers. I’m so tired of the games from both sides. Budget for 10% more on a program, cut it back to a 5% increase from previous year, and proudly announce the program was cut by 5%. OlDawg and TheMissingBand 1 1 Quote
OlDawg Posted 3 hours ago Report Posted 3 hours ago 8 minutes ago, LumRaiderFan said: I’m so tired of the games from both sides. Budget for 10% more on a program, cut it back to a 5% increase from previous year, and proudly announce the program was cut by 5%. K-Mart Blue Light Special Quote
LumRaiderFan Posted 3 hours ago Report Posted 3 hours ago 6 minutes ago, OlDawg said: K-Mart Blue Light Special lol, lucky us! Quote
Porter Posted 2 hours ago Report Posted 2 hours ago 1 hour ago, thetragichippy said: THERE IS NO LIST!!! THERE HAS NEVER BEEN A LIST. WOW a child sex trafficking ring with no customers. Imagine that…. What did he learn and who told him? Quote
thetragichippy Posted 2 hours ago Report Posted 2 hours ago 5 minutes ago, Porter said: WOW a child sex trafficking ring with no customers. Imagine that…. What did he learn and who told him? You seem reasonable. Victims have list - Leak it to Media - they wont Massie named 6 people from the "list(that does not exist) - Two, Leslie Wexner - Epstein managed his money and Sultan Sulayem - had email contact and business dealings - All known during Biden administration - No charges or any allegations of criminal activity. The other 4 had nothing to do with Epstein..... Whoopi is in there too.....and we KNOW she's too......never mind..., lol So I'm not buying this distraction......like my Father used to say - Either poop or get off the pot..... Quote
TheMissingBand Posted 1 hour ago Report Posted 1 hour ago 1 hour ago, LumRaiderFan said: I’m so tired of the games from both sides. Budget for 10% more on a program, cut it back to a 5% increase from previous year, and proudly announce the program was cut by 5%. Actually that’s a 50% cut, from 10 down to 5. To their way of thinking, anyways. Quote
Porter Posted 1 hour ago Report Posted 1 hour ago 13 minutes ago, thetragichippy said: You seem reasonable. Victims have list - Leak it to Media - they wont Massie named 6 people from the "list(that does not exist) - Two, Leslie Wexner - Epstein managed his money and Sultan Sulayem - had email contact and business dealings - All known during Biden administration - No charges or any allegations of criminal activity. The other 4 had nothing to do with Epstein..... Whoopi is in there too.....and we KNOW she's too......never mind..., lol So I'm not buying this distraction......like my Father used to say - Either poop or get off the pot..... Is that kinda like where there is smoke, there is fire? Good thing there’s zero smoke around Epstein. Lol Where is all the video footage of his pinhole camera at his front door at his place in NY along with footage from his island and ranch in New Mexico. There is so much I believe that hasn’t been released and scrubbed. The CIA and FBI are running the show imo. You are surely free to have your opinion. But I am not buying it. Heck Mr ShipwreckedCrew may be CIA or FBI. Quote
thetragichippy Posted 1 hour ago Report Posted 1 hour ago 3 minutes ago, Porter said: Is that kinda like where there is smoke, there is fire? Good thing there’s zero smoke around Epstein. Lol Where is all the video footage of his pinhole camera at his front door at his place in NY along with footage from his island and ranch in New Mexico. There is so much I believe that hasn’t been released and scrubbed. The CIA and FBI are running the show imo. You are surely free to have your opinion. But I am not buying it. Heck Mr ShipwreckedCrew may be CIA or FBI. How do you justify every previous administration not charging anyone with all that video footage? Quote
Porter Posted 1 hour ago Report Posted 1 hour ago 11 minutes ago, thetragichippy said: How do you justify every previous administration not charging anyone with all that video footage? Hard to justify what you can’t see. You sure have a lot of faith in our DOJ, I personally don’t. The victims attorneys sent over a list of names of the clients telling them not to unredact their names because they didn’t want them public and what did Bondi’s DOJ do? They released all the names of the victims that they specifically said not to release. I have ZERO FAITH OR TRUST IN OUR DOJ! Quote
Porter Posted 1 hour ago Report Posted 1 hour ago 12 minutes ago, baddog said: Surely there’s a Rolodex. Lmao Well…..if a Rolodex is found I am sure the Epstein Administration will redact all clients but release the victims names. Quote
thetragichippy Posted 1 hour ago Report Posted 1 hour ago 30 minutes ago, Porter said: Hard to justify what you can’t see. You sure have a lot of faith in our DOJ, I personally don’t. The victims attorneys sent over a list of names of the clients telling them not to unredact their names because they didn’t want them public and what did Bondi’s DOJ do? They released all the names of the victims that they specifically said not to release. I have ZERO FAITH OR TRUST IN OUR DOJ! I may be wrong, but I believe she was complying with the law congress wrote. Quote
Porter Posted 1 hour ago Report Posted 1 hour ago 5 minutes ago, thetragichippy said: I may be wrong, but I believe she was complying with the law congress wrote. So you’re saying Congress’s law says that all victims names are to be released? Quote
baddog Posted 1 hour ago Report Posted 1 hour ago 4 minutes ago, Porter said: Well…..if a Rolodex is found I am sure the Epstein Administration will redact all clients but release the victims names. Seriously, you think the Trump administration is the only one who has had access and redacted the files? The Rolodex was a joke, but I think some people think that about the Epstein “list”. Quote
baddog Posted 59 minutes ago Report Posted 59 minutes ago 3 minutes ago, Porter said: So you’re saying Congress’s law says that all victims names are to be released? I think it was page (17) of this thread where I said they were trying to protect the victims and I was laughed at. Quote
thetragichippy Posted 58 minutes ago Report Posted 58 minutes ago 37 minutes ago, Porter said: The victims attorneys sent over a list of names of the clients telling them not to unredact their names because they didn’t want them public wait, tell me not the same victims that wore t-shirts in front of Congress in the public....right? Quote
Porter Posted 57 minutes ago Report Posted 57 minutes ago 2 minutes ago, baddog said: Seriously, you think the Trump administration is the only one who has had access and redacted the files? The Rolodex was a joke, but I think some people think that about the Epstein “list”. I was being facetious myself but the Epstein Child Sex Trafficking is not a joke or a hoax imo. Quote
Porter Posted 56 minutes ago Report Posted 56 minutes ago 4 minutes ago, thetragichippy said: wait, tell me not the same victims that wore t-shirts in front of Congress in the public....right? No, totally different list of names. Quote
Porter Posted 55 minutes ago Report Posted 55 minutes ago 6 minutes ago, baddog said: I think it was page (17) of this thread where I said they were trying to protect the victims and I was laughed at. It’s not hard to blackout victims names. They were trying to protect elites names is why it took so long to get anything out. You know like Trump said “some of his friends will get hurt “ smh Quote
thetragichippy Posted 51 minutes ago Report Posted 51 minutes ago 4 minutes ago, Porter said: Epstein Child Sex Trafficking is not a joke or a hoax imo. I agree with you, not a hoax at all. I personally don't think the Biden admin/DOJ would have let it go if their was evidence.....and I'm not a Biden Admin fan at all Quote
Porter Posted 49 minutes ago Report Posted 49 minutes ago 1 minute ago, thetragichippy said: I agree with you, not a hoax at all. I personally don't think the Biden admin/DOJ would have let it go if their was evidence.....and I'm not a Biden Admin fan at all Only if there was evidence of Trump being involved is what I believe you mean but there were a lot of powerful people involved. thetragichippy 1 Quote
UT alum Posted 48 minutes ago Report Posted 48 minutes ago 9 hours ago, TheMissingBand said: The problem that we’re in now is that with 39 Trillion in debt, we can’t stand anymore tax cuts. “Trickle Down” is a proven long-term failure. Yes, it gives the economy a short term bump, like when Reagan cut taxes and primed the economy in the early 80s… but it lead to the tax increases under HW Bush that had to happen. We’re about 10 years too late on increasing taxes to slow the growth of the debt, and it’s gonna look like the austerity period in Greece around here if it ever happens. Unfortunately, we’ve got the Bankrupter-in-Chief calling the shots and everybody on both sides of the aisle in Congress knows that the only way to keep their job is by promising gifts to the voters who are largely selfish and stupid. Tariffs aren’t the answer, tax cuts aren’t the answer…. We’ve got to cut our spending and that’s harder than ever now that the interest in our debt is the second largest component of our federal spending. At this point more tax cuts are like getting a payday loan to buy a steak when you’ve already got them all over town. Cut spending, but not just on the other guys’ projects… cut something you love. I’m with you. I’ve raised hell with him about his support for the “party of austerity” for years. The really rich folks know they’ll get to keep theirs (even if they have to convert to gold) and don’t really care about anyone else’s financial ruin. TheMissingBand 1 Quote
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