PdaddyBball Posted November 14, 2018 Report Posted November 14, 2018 Who’s the OC and dc at United? Quote
Bigdog Posted November 14, 2018 Report Posted November 14, 2018 I think coaching consistency is part of it, probably a big part of it. Central was better about keeping a coach around for more than a couple of years but Ozen changed coaches every two years toward the end. Alpha Wolf and Austin1985 2 Quote
Austin1985 Posted November 14, 2018 Report Posted November 14, 2018 On 11/14/2018 at 3:49 PM, SmashMouth said: If it's a Legit Question, then your premise is a little flawed. If you got a coach that won football games (I mean won like Newton, WOS, etc. year in/year out) then the scouts are gonna come no matter what. Plus in this day and age, even Junior High kids can make their own highlight videos. Hudl, YouTube, MaxPreps and other sites give the ability for these kids to be noticed a lot more than even just 5 years ago. Therefore, if you had a coach that could bring a team wins, then he would effectively be getting those same kids recruited. So, with that thought in mind, your question could only be: Would you rather choose a coach that wins football games and gets kid recruited or would you rather choose a coach that loses football games and gets kid recruited? I'll take the winner please... Expand That's Arthur Louis' resume.... Quote
Uncle Pig Posted November 14, 2018 Report Posted November 14, 2018 On 11/14/2018 at 12:28 PM, Austin1985 said: Both. In Beaumont, both can happen. A city that produced a champion in '82 and a co-champion in 84 can have schools with deep playoff runs and significant amounts of scholarship offers Expand Title 1 schools are behind the 8 ball when it comes to winning big these days, especially at the 5A-6A level. Not saying it can’t be and isn’t done, but the larger school districts with kids that come from higher income families have pretty much taken over. All one needs to do is look at the past few years of state champs at the 5A-6A level Quote
Alpha Wolf Posted November 15, 2018 Report Posted November 15, 2018 On 11/14/2018 at 3:33 PM, Bootleg said: There is no reason that United shouldn't own all the teams in the Golden Triangle. One day ! One day they will get it together and will own this area. Its just a matter of time. Expand Do you feel like that will happen under the current regime? Quote
Alpha Wolf Posted November 15, 2018 Report Posted November 15, 2018 On 11/14/2018 at 4:49 PM, SmashMouth said: Then to flatly answer your question, I would choose the winning program. Even if my kid was on that team. Coaches are hired to win games. Expand At $120,000 salary, he made $60,00 per win... Quote
Alpha Wolf Posted November 15, 2018 Report Posted November 15, 2018 On 11/14/2018 at 5:11 PM, 88Warrior said: Win games..It benefits all the players, the school and community...imho.. Expand Winning cures all. You are what your record says you are... Quote
Alpha Wolf Posted November 15, 2018 Report Posted November 15, 2018 On 11/14/2018 at 5:47 PM, PdaddyBball said: Who’s the OC and dc at United? Expand Ed Taylor-OC Kirby Jones-DC Quote
Alpha Wolf Posted November 15, 2018 Report Posted November 15, 2018 On 11/14/2018 at 5:54 PM, bigdog said: I think coaching consistency is part of it, probably a big part of it. Central was better about keeping a coach around for more than a couple of years but Ozen changed coaches every two years toward the end. Expand Consistency is a big part of it but we don't want one that is consistently losing either... Quote
D3zii Posted November 15, 2018 Report Posted November 15, 2018 The thing with Beaumont is we are our own worse enemy. We stand in our own way, once we get out of our way the district as a whole will be better. Quote
Alpha Wolf Posted November 15, 2018 Report Posted November 15, 2018 On 11/14/2018 at 7:20 PM, Uncle Pig said: Title 1 schools are behind the 8 ball when it comes to winning big these days, especially at the 5A-6A level. Not saying it can’t be and isn’t done, but the larger school districts with kids that come from higher income families have pretty much taken over. All one needs to do is look at the past few years of state champs at the 5A-6A level Expand 2017-Dallas Highland Park, College Station, Allen and Cy-Fair 2016-Dallas Highand Park, Aledo, Austin Lake Travis and DeSoto I understand your point even though I'm not sure about the financial break down of Desoto. I'm not expecting a state championship at United but I'm not excepting 2 wins a year either. Tigers2010 and BMTSoulja1 2 Quote
Alpha Wolf Posted November 15, 2018 Report Posted November 15, 2018 On 11/15/2018 at 3:36 PM, D3zii said: The thing with Beaumont is we are our own worse enemy. We stand in our own way, once we get out of our way the district as a whole will be better. Expand That starts at the top with the school board, superintendent and assistant superintendent . PlayActionPass 1 Quote
Bigdog Posted November 16, 2018 Report Posted November 16, 2018 On 11/15/2018 at 3:32 PM, Alpha Wolf said: Consistency is a big part of it but we don't want one that is consistently losing either... Expand No, but you have to give a coach time to implement thier program and get the kids on board. It usually takes more than two years. Quote
Uncle Pig Posted November 16, 2018 Report Posted November 16, 2018 On 11/15/2018 at 3:38 PM, Alpha Wolf said: 2017-Dallas Highland Park, College Station, Allen and Cy-Fair 2016-Dallas Highand Park, Aledo, Austin Lake Travis and DeSoto I understand your point even though I'm not sure about the financial break down of Desoto. I'm not expecting a state championship at United but I'm not excepting 2 wins a year either. Expand Yessir I 100% see where you’re coming from. Desoto is very upper/middle class Quote
Alpha Wolf Posted November 16, 2018 Report Posted November 16, 2018 On 11/16/2018 at 2:40 AM, bigdog said: No, but you have to give a coach time to implement thier program and get the kids on board. It usually takes more than two years. Expand It was the Ozen offensive system from the previous 2 years, just with more kids now but the same results. Like I told the school board last night, those kids deserve better... Quote
PlayActionPass Posted November 16, 2018 Report Posted November 16, 2018 On 11/16/2018 at 4:23 PM, Alpha Wolf said: It was the Ozen offensive system from the previous 2 years, just with more kids now but the same results. Like I told the school board last night, those kids deserve better... Expand Didn't get to see a United game this year, what are they running on Offense? Quote
Austin1985 Posted November 16, 2018 Report Posted November 16, 2018 Multiple looks,. Some I, some Shotgun spread 3-4 base defense...... Quote
The Icon Posted November 16, 2018 Report Posted November 16, 2018 Weve seen it time and again Would a new coach be able to bring in his own and staff and run his program? Consistency in the form of proven success is more helpful than perpetual mediocrity. Quote
PlayActionPass Posted November 16, 2018 Report Posted November 16, 2018 On 11/15/2018 at 3:40 PM, Alpha Wolf said: That starts at the top with the school board, superintendent and assistant superintendent . Expand As it does EVERYWHERE, if you don't have support from the top then you are just spinning your wheels. Alpha Wolf 1 Quote
Alpha Wolf Posted November 17, 2018 Report Posted November 17, 2018 On 11/16/2018 at 5:03 PM, Austin1985 said: Multiple looks,. Some I, some Shotgun spread 3-4 base defense...... Expand On 11/16/2018 at 2:40 AM, bigdog said: Expand Bro, we ran the 3-4 for the 1st time against PA Memorial, then against Sterling and after West Brook gashed us we went back to the 4-3 for the rest of the season. Quote
Austin1985 Posted November 17, 2018 Report Posted November 17, 2018 On 11/17/2018 at 1:23 AM, Alpha Wolf said: Bro, we ran the 3-4 for the 1st time against PA Memorial, then against Sterling and after West Brook gashed us we went back to the 4-3 for the rest of the season. Expand My bad. Saw the sterling game only Quote
Alpha Wolf Posted November 17, 2018 Report Posted November 17, 2018 On 11/16/2018 at 5:34 PM, The Icon said: Weve seen it time and again Would a new coach be able to bring in his own and staff and run his program? Consistency in the form of proven success is more helpful than perpetual mediocrity. Expand I'm sitting in Cheddars about to eat so I don't have much time but I received a 20 minute and 44 second phone call from one of the "Admin Powers" yesterday on this entire topic wanting to know my and the community's concerns about United football. And I didn't hold back, I was actually more controlled last night because I only had 2 and half minutes... The Icon 1 Quote
Alpha Wolf Posted November 17, 2018 Report Posted November 17, 2018 On 11/17/2018 at 1:24 AM, Austin1985 said: My bad. Saw the sterling game only Expand It was working but for some reason after one bad game against WB, they went away from it, smh... Quote
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