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Hagar Posted August 18, 2017 Report Posted August 18, 2017 On 8/18/2017 at 3:57 PM, team first said: This is the hidden content, please Sign In or Sign Up Expand I wonder if whoever did it thought Columbus was a Confederate General? I suspect they did. Shows the mental capacity of these Loons. 77 1 Quote
Englebert Posted August 18, 2017 Report Posted August 18, 2017 Do you think the vandals voted for Trump or Hillary? Quote
westend1 Posted August 18, 2017 Report Posted August 18, 2017 On 8/18/2017 at 5:07 PM, REBgp said: I wonder if whoever did it thought Columbus was a Confederate General? I suspect they did. Shows the mental capacity of these Loons. Expand Maybe it was because he was a slave trader. Just saying Quote
stevenash Posted August 18, 2017 Report Posted August 18, 2017 Let me see, how many hundreds of years ago was he a slave trader? Why wait until 2017 to be upset about it? Quote
Hagar Posted August 18, 2017 Report Posted August 18, 2017 On 8/18/2017 at 6:12 PM, westend1 said: Maybe it was because he was a slave trader. Just saying Expand Well, that explains it - except he died in 1506 and the first slaves were not brought to the Americas until 1619. And Wikipedia didn't mention him as a slave trader. Nice try though. Quote
BS Wildcats Posted August 18, 2017 Report Posted August 18, 2017 On 8/18/2017 at 6:12 PM, westend1 said: Maybe it was because he was a slave trader. Just saying Expand So were the ancestors of the blacks calling for the removal of statues. Just saying Quote
westend1 Posted August 18, 2017 Report Posted August 18, 2017 On 8/18/2017 at 6:32 PM, REBgp said: Well, that explains it - except he died in 1506 and the first slaves were not brought to the Americas until 1619. And Wikipedia didn't mention him as a slave trader. Nice try though. Expand Google Christopher Columbus and slaves, then get back to me. Oh, btw, I checked Wikipedia and it says he "spearheaded the transatlantic slave trade" Quote
baddog Posted August 18, 2017 Report Posted August 18, 2017 On 8/18/2017 at 6:36 PM, westend1 said: Google Christopher Columbus and slaves, then get back to me. Oh, btw, I checked Wikipedia and it says he "spearheaded the transatlantic slave trade" Expand So what? It happened. Can't change history. Tearing down a statue won't make it go away. You take sides with these people? Quote
westend1 Posted August 18, 2017 Report Posted August 18, 2017 On 8/18/2017 at 7:01 PM, baddog said: So what? It happened. Can't change history. Tearing down a statue won't make it go away. You take sides with these people? Expand I don't care if its there or not. Reb thought maybe the vandals believed cc fought in the civil war. I gave another option. I thought you guys wanted debate? Yes or no? Quote
Hagar Posted August 18, 2017 Report Posted August 18, 2017 On 8/18/2017 at 6:36 PM, westend1 said: Google Christopher Columbus and slaves, then get back to me. Oh, btw, I checked Wikipedia and it says he "spearheaded the transatlantic slave trade" Expand Spearheaded, and I'm not sure how they mean that, but if you click on it, you find that the first transatlantic slave ship to the Americas was by the Portuguese in 1529, 23 years after Columbus' death. And a sincere note, take with a grain of salt anything you google, cause anything is liable to come up. My (limited) experience has shown me that Wikipedia is one of the more reliable sites, although I've seen some make fun of it. Quote
baddog Posted August 18, 2017 Report Posted August 18, 2017 On 8/18/2017 at 7:03 PM, westend1 said: I don't care if its there or not. Reb thought maybe the vandals believed cc fought in the civil war. I gave another option. I thought you guys wanted debate? Yes or no? Expand I said so what to you, but it is meant for everyone. So what if slavery happened? It's been practiced since the beginning of man. Nothing you nor I can do to change it. Absolutely nothing. They were freed. What else can be done? Seems to me the ones who love to harp on it should concentrate their energy on stopping the slave trade happening today. But alas, that would not line their pockets. Quote
westend1 Posted August 18, 2017 Report Posted August 18, 2017 On 8/18/2017 at 7:39 PM, baddog said: I said so what to you, but it is meant for everyone. So what if slavery happened? It's been practiced since the beginning of man. Nothing you nor I can do to change it. Absolutely nothing. They were freed. What else can be done? Seems to me the ones who love to harp on it should concentrate their energy on stopping the slave trade happening today. But alas, that would not line their pockets. Expand I've been in the same office building for 17 years. For the first time I now realize I can see a conferate statue from my window. Never new what it was and never made the effort to walk over and look. I assure you that I don't care either way. That said, some folks don't like them. I say let the city decide (or college) and that should be the end of it Hagar 1 Quote
Hagar Posted August 19, 2017 Report Posted August 19, 2017 On 8/18/2017 at 7:50 PM, westend1 said: I've been in the same office building for 17 years. For the first time I now realize I can see a conferate statue from my window. Never new what it was and never made the effort to walk over and look. I assure you that I don't care either way. That said, some folks don't like them. I say let the city decide (or college) and that should be the end of it Expand I can assure you, in all honesty, the couple of Confederate statues I've seen, slavery never, ever, entered my mind. But I guess that's not the point. But your post reminds me of an article I read about the statues in New Orleans several months ago before statue destruction became a big deal. Very few in NO could've cared less. Then outsiders come in and stir the poo. I'd bet now, it's important to many of those asked earlier. Conversely, you end up with some folks on the right, who previously wouldn't have gone postal about a statue, joining crazy racist groups. Imo, many join who aren't racist or Nazis, they just see them as the only ones who'll stand up to the destructors. I can only guess that the folks who stirred up the poo, did so for a reason. What the reason may be, would probably concern you and I both. But since we're just discussing, I'll tell you, I'm at a loss to understand so many things going on. To much hate. Quote
77 Posted August 19, 2017 Report Posted August 19, 2017 he never sold me or anyone I know slaves in the last I dont know maybe 4 or 5 hundred years. GEEEZ! baddog 1 Quote
westend1 Posted August 19, 2017 Report Posted August 19, 2017 On 8/19/2017 at 4:12 AM, 77 said: he never sold me or anyone I know slaves in the last I dont know maybe 4 or 5 hundred years. GEEEZ! Expand Yeah, and hitler died before you were born. What is the point? That things which don't personally affect you shouldn't bother someone else? Quote
baddog Posted August 19, 2017 Report Posted August 19, 2017 On 8/19/2017 at 11:14 AM, westend1 said: Yeah, and hitler died before you were born. What is the point? That things which don't personally affect you shouldn't bother someone else? Expand Auschwitz is a tourist attraction. The Jews want the world to remember The Holocaust. 77 1 Quote
baddog Posted August 19, 2017 Report Posted August 19, 2017 On 8/19/2017 at 11:14 AM, westend1 said: Expand Also, Hitler may have been Jewish. How ironic. This is the hidden content, please Sign In or Sign Up Quote
westend1 Posted August 19, 2017 Report Posted August 19, 2017 On 8/19/2017 at 11:33 AM, baddog said: Auschwitz is a tourist attraction. The Jews want the world to remember The Holocaust. Expand But they don't honor Hitler with a big bronze statue, do they? Quote
baddog Posted August 19, 2017 Report Posted August 19, 2017 On 8/19/2017 at 11:47 AM, westend1 said: But they don't honor Hitler with a big bronze statue, do they? Expand Who needs a statue where you still have his death camps? And really, there is no comparing Hitler with Robert E. Lee. Quote
westend1 Posted August 19, 2017 Report Posted August 19, 2017 On 8/19/2017 at 12:10 PM, baddog said: Who needs a statue where you still have his death camps? And really, there is no comparing Hitler with Robert E. Lee. Expand Probably not. Unless you are black Quote
baddog Posted August 19, 2017 Report Posted August 19, 2017 On 8/19/2017 at 12:25 PM, westend1 said: Probably not. Unless you are black Expand On 8/19/2017 at 11:14 AM, westend1 said: Expand How about the great pyramids of Egypt? They are shrines built by slaves. Hey, enter the Jews again. Are the Jews protesting against blacks about their pyramids? Should we tear them down? Has it been long enough to forget? Quote
new tobie Posted August 19, 2017 Report Posted August 19, 2017 On 8/18/2017 at 5:39 PM, Englebert said: Do you think the vandals voted for Trump or Hillary? Expand Who did neo Nazis and kkk vote for. Which candidate would slave owners have voted for. Slave owners were domestic terrorist. Quote
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