stevenash Posted August 8, 2014 Report Share Posted August 8, 2014 The U.S. economy grew at a rate of 1.9% in 2013, which was down from 2.8% in 2012. The average post recession growth rate(nationally) is historically in the 4% range. When you look at the top five states in terms of GDP, they are North Dakota, Wyoming, West Virginia, Oklahoma, and Idaho with rates ranging from 4.2% to 9.7%. Four of those five states have Republican governors. Is that just a coincidence? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
westend1 Posted August 8, 2014 Report Share Posted August 8, 2014 Fracking Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LumRaiderFan Posted August 8, 2014 Report Share Posted August 8, 2014 Fracking I agree...but someone has to allow it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevenash Posted August 8, 2014 Author Report Share Posted August 8, 2014 Fracking also takes place in Ohio, Lousiana, Texas, and Pennsylvania. If fracking is the common denominator in those top five states, would it be wise to consider fracking everywhere possible? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LumRaiderFan Posted August 8, 2014 Report Share Posted August 8, 2014 Fracking also takes place in Ohio, Lousiana, Texas, and Pennsylvania. If fracking is the common denominator in those top five states, would it be wise to consider fracking everywhere possible? Everywhere except California...sure wouldn't want to do anything that makes economic sense over there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevenash Posted August 8, 2014 Author Report Share Posted August 8, 2014 Good point- California, with its wise and effective fiscal management "knows" that higher taxes is the real answer. Good model for the rest of the country. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
meanjoe Posted August 8, 2014 Report Share Posted August 8, 2014 Steve why don't you run for office in your place of residence, you seem to know everything. We need intelligent open minded people in local government! Did I say open minded? Sorry! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevenash Posted August 8, 2014 Author Report Share Posted August 8, 2014 Nothing open minded about me. I am one of those "not so enlightened" who is still ignorant enough to believe that fewer taxes, fewer regulations, and smaller government can be more productive. I could never win an election because I just wouldn't be able to tell all the voters what freebies they can expect. But you are right- I should be more open minded- 6 years is not enough time to make a judgment on whether or not more taxes, more regulations, and more government in general, works. And, to make things work, I have this stupid belief that is ok for me to offer than opinion. Don't be concerned, some day I will get over it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
new tobie Posted August 8, 2014 Report Share Posted August 8, 2014 Nothing open minded about me. I am one of those "not so enlightened" who is still ignorant enough to believe that fewer taxes, fewer regulations, and smaller government can be more productive. I could never win an election because I just wouldn't be able to tell all the voters what freebies they can expect. But you are right- I should be more open minded- 6 years is not enough time to make a judgment on whether or not more taxes, more regulations, and more government in general, works. And, to make things work, I have this stupid belief that is ok for me to offer than opinion. Don't be concerned, some day I will get over it. Steve did any of those things get accomplished the last 8yrs that your boys held office Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
meanjoe Posted August 8, 2014 Report Share Posted August 8, 2014 Just a short visit Steve, I see your liberal twinn new tobie has arrived, Im back to the sports part of the website. i have to take a peek at the foolishness every once in a while.(Nash,Smitty and New Tobie)smh EnlightenedChosenOne 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevenash Posted August 8, 2014 Author Report Share Posted August 8, 2014 Don't leave, Sixburgh. The more open minded people here, the better to offset people like me. Tobie, you are going to interpret those 8 years as you want to interpret them, so what I have to say wont matter. But I would suggest that you go back and find out what the average annual unemployment rate was during the bush years vs the Obama years. You might also wish to evaluate the national debt, which was 10.7 trillion when Mr. Bush left office and stands at over 17 trillion today and projected to exceed 20 trillion before Mr. Obama leaves office. ( don't forget that Mr. Obama, when campaigning for the Presidency, declared the debt total under Mr. Bush(10 trillion) to be irresponsible and unpatriotic) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevenash Posted August 8, 2014 Author Report Share Posted August 8, 2014 Back to the fracking. I haven't checked this but I would guess there is very little if any fracking taking place in Idaho and West Virginia. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
westend1 Posted August 8, 2014 Report Share Posted August 8, 2014 West Virginia has a lot. Idaho benefits from it's neighbors. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big girl Posted August 8, 2014 Report Share Posted August 8, 2014 Some of the poorest states are republican states. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big girl Posted August 8, 2014 Report Share Posted August 8, 2014 Nine out of the 10 poorest states are Red states. - PolitiFact www.politifact.com/.../pro-democrat-gro. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big girl Posted August 8, 2014 Report Share Posted August 8, 2014 What does it say that most of the 10 poorest states are Republican ... caffertyfile.blogs.cnn.com/.../what-does-i... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big girl Posted August 8, 2014 Report Share Posted August 8, 2014 Are the 10 Poorest U.S. States Really Republican? - Forbes www.forbes.com/.../are-the-10-poorest-u... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevenash Posted August 8, 2014 Author Report Share Posted August 8, 2014 Part of the calculation in determining what states are the poorest includes govt assistance. In other words, the more govt assistance a state doles out, the better the income level looks on a per person basis. PN-G bamatex 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big girl Posted August 9, 2014 Report Share Posted August 9, 2014 Uh huh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevenash Posted August 9, 2014 Author Report Share Posted August 9, 2014 Don't like facts, do you Big Girl? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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