Is Warren Open?

[DHS Grandad]

Hate to see him leave DV.He brought a renewed enthusiasm to our athletic program.I wish him the best except for week 2 when we play Warren.

[warparty]

Not sure of the reasons why Coach Babin left but we are excited to have him.  Here is to the start of a new era!

[skipmeister]

Best wishes to Coach Babin at Warren! His commute should be shorter after all, he still has a house in Lumberton. Deweyville's loss is Warren's gain!

[Scatright]

This is huge for Warren.

[Coach Bethea]

Congrats to Warren on their new hire. As far as why he left, who knows why and then to hear excuses like "money" as a reason. Lets be honest. Obviously, he just wanted out and didn't want to be there. Look at the schedule for Deweyville next year. Obvious he was leaving and left the future coach at Deweyville no favors..... interesting match -up week 2 no doubt.

[eagleswoodville#1]

Congrats Warren! You got a good one! And Warren is a much better opportunity than Deweyville at this point in time. The program might not be too successful, but that is one of the better school districts in SETX. Contrary to popular belief, the two biggest school districts in Tyler County(Woodville and Warren) are among the best in the area when it comes to quality of the district. So, he is coming to a much better, and if he succeeds, a much more stable opportunity in Warren.

[IT'S IN THE BONE]

Now leave him alone and let him coach!

[Guest]

Congrats to Warren on their new hire. As far as why he left, who knows why and then to hear excuses like "money" as a reason. Lets be honest. Obviously, he just wanted out and didn't want to be there. Look at the schedule for Deweyville next year. Obvious he was leaving and left the future coach at Deweyville no favors..... interesting match -up week 2 no doubt.

He knew what I have been saying for the last few years. The DV sr class that just graduated was very talented. DV historically is not very talented. In addition to falling back to Earth, the schedule is brutal for next year. He wanted out to advance his career like most coaches do. 0-10 or 2-8 will be a step backwards in advancing the career. Strike while the iron is hot. 89Falcon right again.

[Scatright]

What if he's 0-10 or 2-8 at Warren?

[OLDGREGG]

I think Warren will win 3-5 games this season

[WTB]

whats their schedule?

[Guest]

What if he's 0-10 or 2-8 at Warren?

If he is 0-10 or 2-8 he will do it with more money in the bank and less time striping fields.

[WTB]

also mowing, seeding and pretty much everything

[Chester86]

My opinion will not be popular, but I think he is taking the easy way out. You make promises to these young men, you start to build a program and try to teach them how to be a man - and then boom when things look rough ahead you bail on them. Oh you say I'll make more money - blah-blah-blah but you'll always have issues to deal with.
I remember Groveton growing up was powerful every year. Their program had stability and a coach that cared about more than "having to stripe a field". You think they had down years as far as athletes go? Yea, but their program carried them through. Those coaches are still out there and surprisedly those programs are successful. I think of Coach Hooks (WO-S), Coach Matthews (Vidor), Coach Williams (Evadale) and you could go on and on.
I have no problem with a young coach making some moves early in their career. Oftentimes you have to move somewhere you don't want to be to get a shot at being the head coach. But eventually it would seem that you would want to settle and put your stamp on a program. This just wreaks to me that when things were about to get tough - he just tucked tail and ran. Don't know the guy, and don't have kids in either district. Again, I know this opinion won't be popular but it's my thoughts on the move.

[football]

Groveton did not have too many down years with athletes in the 80's.  Just guessing the 80's because of your screen name.

[Guest]

My opinion will not be popular, but I think he is taking the easy way out. You make promises to these young men, you start to build a program and try to teach them how to be a man - and then boom when things look rough ahead you bail on them. Oh you say I'll make more money - blah-blah-blah but you'll always have issues to deal with.
I remember Groveton growing up was powerful every year. Their program had stability and a coach that cared about more than "having to stripe a field". You think they had down years as far as athletes go? Yea, but their program carried them through. Those coaches are still out there and surprisedly those programs are successful. I think of Coach Hooks (WO-S), Coach Matthews (Vidor), Coach Williams (Evadale) and you could go on and on.
I have no problem with a young coach making some moves early in their career. Oftentimes you have to move somewhere you don't want to be to get a shot at being the head coach. But eventually it would seem that you would want to settle and put your stamp on a program. This just wreaks to me that when things were about to get tough - he just tucked tail and ran. Don't know the guy, and don't have kids in either district. Again, I know this opinion won't be popular but it's my thoughts on the move.

In my opinion you do what is best for your family as you see fit. If you have an opportunity to make a better life for your family and you are advancing your career goals you do it.

[Guest]

In my opinion you do what is best for your family as you see fit. If you have an opportunity to make a better life for your family and you are advancing your career goals you do it.

Especially since you may get fired next year for being 0-10. In the coaching business you become an idiot very fast depending on the talent level in your school. Noone that is offened by Babin's departure will be volunteering to pay is bills if he gest fired.

[IT'S IN THE BONE]

As I stated on page 2 of thread...Warren must leave this guy alone for 5 years and let him build a program through increased participation training and ingraining. It is going to be rough at first but it will get better. Warren is not without talent and the parents / town folk are very loyal and prideful win or loose. Give this guy time and he will get the kids to buy into the program and as long as, when the kids go home, the program and coach are not being sold out, than things will increasingly improve at Warren. As far as a coach leaving...that's coaching in today day in time...face it, its the lynch mob mentality that we have created as a society when things don't go as planned, that has forever lost a coaches willingness to put his future and his families future on the line...that type of Coach is a dying breed and its not the coaches fault.  Warren...you want it to work? Than let the man coach and embrace each small goal achieved on the road to the BIG GOAL! Plus understand that punting is part of the game and knee jerk reactions should be outlawed. 

[OLDGREGG]

My opinion will not be popular, but I think he is taking the easy way out. You make promises to these young men, you start to build a program and try to teach them how to be a man - and then boom when things look rough ahead you bail on them. Oh you say I'll make more money - blah-blah-blah but you'll always have issues to deal with.
I remember Groveton growing up was powerful every year. Their program had stability and a coach that cared about more than "having to stripe a field". You think they had down years as far as athletes go? Yea, but their program carried them through. Those coaches are still out there and surprisedly those programs are successful. I think of Coach Hooks (WO-S), Coach Matthews (Vidor), Coach Williams (Evadale) and you could go on and on.
I have no problem with a young coach making some moves early in their career. Oftentimes you have to move somewhere you don't want to be to get a shot at being the head coach. But eventually it would seem that you would want to settle and put your stamp on a program. This just wreaks to me that when things were about to get tough - he just tucked tail and ran. Don't know the guy, and don't have kids in either district. Again, I know this opinion won't be popular but it's my thoughts on the move.

I understand what you're saying but the man has to do what is best for him and his family. This is his JOB we are talking about here. And we don't know what reason's he left D-ville. In the coaching business there are many different factors that determine whether you stay at a school or go somewhere else.

[WTB]

Chester, would you ever pass up a big raise with better all around working conditions?

[SteelerCzy]

There are other factors too when it comes to leaving Dville. Warren has some upside and commits to athletics alot more than Dville does. Atleast at the higher levels. 

 

Higher pay

More Coaches 

doesnt have to do all the field work

doesnt have to coach softball

My son's senior year Coach Babin came to Dville, and I wished he could have come sooner. Coach Babin brought discipline, hard work and a winning attitude that had been missing for quite some time at Dville. No one will work harder or be better prepared than a Coach Babin led team. He will get the most out of his players and have them ready to run through walls for him and that is one of his best assets as a leader and motivator of young men. Good luck Coach Babin in your new job, Warren definitely got a good one. 

[Piratesdad4410]

My opinion will not be popular, but I think he is taking the easy way out. You make promises to these young men, you start to build a program and try to teach them how to be a man - and then boom when things look rough ahead you bail on them. Oh you say I'll make more money - blah-blah-blah but you'll always have issues to deal with.
I remember Groveton growing up was powerful every year. Their program had stability and a coach that cared about more than "having to stripe a field". You think they had down years as far as athletes go? Yea, but their program carried them through. Those coaches are still out there and surprisedly those programs are successful. I think of Coach Hooks (WO-S), Coach Matthews (Vidor), Coach Williams (Evadale) and you could go on and on.
I have no problem with a young coach making some moves early in their career. Oftentimes you have to move somewhere you don't want to be to get a shot at being the head coach. But eventually it would seem that you would want to settle and put your stamp on a program. This just wreaks to me that when things were about to get tough - he just tucked tail and ran. Don't know the guy, and don't have kids in either district. Again, I know this opinion won't be popular but it's my thoughts on the move.

Chester86 I hear what you are saying the problem is you do not have the right story. People will say he lift for this reason or that one. I am from Deweyville and my kids go there so I will tell you why he left.

It did not have any thing to do with a hard district are him having to paint the field the bottom line is OUR community, NOT every body but as a hole does not support Athletics. He had only a couple of coaches to help him and could not hire any cause there was no openings to put them. In Deweyville when a coach no longer wants to coach he are she does not coach but yet gets to stay and teach when the AD is not happy with A coach for what ever reason they do not coach BUT THEY stay and teach SO YOU HAVE NO PLACE TO HIRE ANY MORE COACHES. That my friends is the biggest reason he lift in my opinion Then there is the money when you do the math and add the hours he putts in to the money he makes he would be lucky to be making minimum Wage Then when the subject was brought up to get him more money, some of the teachers and Principles got pissed off cause in there eyes THE AD should not be making more than them Cause they been there for years THIS HOLE SCHOOL DISTRICT IS PATHETIC.   

[justaspectator]

It is funny how people can attack a coach for taking a job with better working conditions yet they would do the same thing at the plant if they were given the opportunity. Get a grip! If a coach goes 10-0 one year, he does not get a raise in pay, but if he goes 2-8 the next year he gets fired. Do you blame him for taking a better job? Don't  talk about a lack of loyalty on his part. That is how this dog eat dog world works!!! Loyalty to a school will get you a swift kick in the seat of the pants if you don't  WIN the state championship every year. Don't talk

about a coach not showing loyalty!

[UGK]

Chester86 I hear what you are saying the problem is you do not have the right story. People will say he lift for this reason or that one. I am from Deweyville and my kids go there so I will tell you why he left.
It did not have any thing to do with a hard district are him having to paint the field the bottom line is OUR community, NOT every body but as a hole does not support Athletics. He had only a couple of coaches to help him and could not hire any cause there was no openings to put them. In Deweyville when a coach no longer wants to coach he are she does not coach but yet gets to stay and teach when the AD is not happy with A coach for what ever reason they do not coach BUT THEY stay and teach SO YOU HAVE NO PLACE TO HIRE ANY MORE COACHES. That my friends is the biggest reason he lift in my opinion Then there is the money when you do the math and add the hours he putts in to the money he makes he would be lucky to be making minimum Wage Then when the subject was brought up to get him more money, some of the teachers and Principles got pissed off cause in there eyes THE AD should not be making more than them Cause they been there for years THIS HOLE SCHOOL DISTRICT IS PATHETIC.

+10,000

[DHS Grandad]

4410, you pretty much hit the nail on the  head about DV. It's like the school board can't handle success from a sports program. Looks like empty stands after halftime just like before Coach Babin arrived..