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my main point was that you were saying what happened to A&M thought they were going to beat Texas but then they lose to Rice. Well, no one said the woman were going to beat Texas because no one cares enough to talk trash about that. It didn't make any sense that you would post a score from a woman's game in support of this message: when no one was even talking about womans bball. Which, rightly or wrongly, is true of fan bases from both sides. When you posted the Rice score you thought it was from a men's game. By the way, the Aggies play two top ten teams on the road within the next week, so there will certainly be a good chance for them to lose a game.

I have ready Bobby Straface’s ‘reply’ and am reminded of the line from the song that “the handshake hides the snakeâ€. I remind him (and everyone else) that I did not come looking for this ‘debate’. One of his ‘people’ made a post that required my response and, as the saying goes, we’re off to the races. As usual, Bobby is a good salesman …nothing more, nothing less. If just anyone were to comment about my prior post that “none of it was trueâ€, I would be offended. When Bobby says it, I get downright angry…Bobby knows it is true, and damn well knows that I know it is true. First, Bobby Straface has “started†his select organization in SE Texas because it flopped in North Texas. It ended when his ‘Director of Baseball Operations’ quit because he did not like how the program was taking advantage/misleading the players. Then, after ‘enjoying’ the “Big Timers Experienceâ€, all but 1 of their players chose not to return. We have talked to that ‘Director of Baseball Operations’. We have found a wealth of information about this on other public sites. I would not make any such statements about an organization without first doing so. Here are what some of those public comments were, mainly from 'satisfied customers' (a/k/a parents): ‘After the experience [with Bobby Straface], “all but 1 decided not to return.†‘Bobby made a lot of “pretty tall claims that he could get kids recruited and scholarships. That pretty much did not happen…Bobby is a real good salesman however…I would be very skeptical.†‘Bobby was “overhyping what he could do and would do for the playersâ€. He just never delivered on any of it.’ These are not my words. These are not the words of anyone affiliated with me. These are the words of parents who trusted Bobby Straface and the Big Timers organization only to find out he does not deliver on what he promises. When Bobby claimed that it was harshly unfair for me to say that he “promised things we cannot deliverâ€, I respond with what other parents have experienced. Those are not my claims. Those are the facts from people who had the 'benefit' of his organization. Second, I know for a “gospel fact†that Bobby Straface has made significant misrepresentations to players and college coaches about his relationship to those players and coaches (By the way, Bobby…today’s cell phones do allow people to record their conversations with you). At the sake of (some) brevity, here are just two examples: (1) Player (one of our select players) gets a telephone call from Bobby Straface, indicating that he is having lunch with the coaches from [a Big 12 university], and that he can ‘guarantee’ a scholarship. Bobby then hands the phone to a person that he claims is a coach at that university so the two of them can talk. The supposed coach tells the player he will get the scholarship if he listens to Bobby and uses him as his advisor. Player calls us. We advise player that this phone call occurred during a ‘dead period’ for recruiting and would be an NCAA violation. Since we know the school and coaches allegedly involved, we call them to question the conduct. To our surprise (and relief), the conversation never took place as these college coaches were literally hundreds of miles away when the alleged phone call took place. We call the player and question him. The phone call was recorded and we verify the player’s version. Bottom line? Either Bobby Straface (a) engaged in an NCAA violation or ( blatantly lied to a player in an effort to ‘sign him up’. (2) I received a telephone call from the recruiting coordinator at a major D-1 university (‘major’ enough to have recently won the National Championship) that I had met in East Cobb, Georgia. He had received a telephone call from Bobby Straface claiming to represent one of our players that he would ‘deliver’. The player was very interested in the school, and the recruiting coordinator was interested in the player; hence the call to me. I talked to the player’s family. They had no relationship whatsoever (representation, advisor, etc.) with Bobby. Bottom line? School got cold feet on recruiting the player and the player went elsewhere. Third, Bobby Straface has lied about my organization and my coaches in an effort to “recruit†our players (which, interestingly, required him to ‘sign up’ with his management/agency organization). I happened to be with the parent(s) when he called them and the call was put on ‘speaker phone’. During that conversation, he claimed that our head coach (Matt Thompson) had only had 1 coaching job in his entire life (hitting coach at Lamar) and got ‘run off’ from that job. The rest of our coaches were ‘less qualified’ than that. Here are some facts about Matt Thompson. Matt started working with us while he was still a coach at Lamar University. He chose to leave Lamar, quite frankly, because our program offered him (and his family) a better opportunity personally and financially. He did not get ‘run off’ as Bobby claimed. Moreover, Matt Thompson’s background (of which Bobby is obviously ignorant) is a quality background: · Prior to Lamar, Matt was the Head Coach at Broward CC that plays in JUCO Division 8 (toughest division nationally in JUCO ball). His 2003 recruiting class included 8 players that were drafted by MLB. · Previous, he was the Head Coach at South West CC where they were ranked in the Top 25 nationally each year in hitting (including 4th nationally in 2001). · All in all, as a Head Coach Matt has coached 17 players drafted by MLB, 2 All Americans and 18 All Region selections. · As Jim Gilligan said, “Matt has an extensive understanding of hitting and has the communicative skills to relate it to the hitters.†In addition to that, Matt has been (on multiple occasions) helped select our country’s national teams for USA Baseball (the same guys who run our Olympics team) and has been asked to serve as a coach for them. Clearly, Matt Thompson is a quality coach and, just as clearly, Bobby Straface made blatant misstatements about him…all to ‘recruit’ a high school player and attempt to sign him on the proverbial dotted line. Fourth, we do have a solid record of developing players from a young age (13) and obtaining college scholarships for them. Bobby cannot make that claim…because he (and his organization) has never done it (here or in the Dallas area before they ‘left town’). He claims that they work on a ‘daily basis’ with college coaches (hopefully, not like the examples listed above) but I have yet to meet the player that got a Div. 1 scholarship because of Bobby Straface or his organization. I’m not saying he hasn’t…maybe he has (but I haven’t met that player). I am aware that he ‘represents’ several players as their ‘agent’ or ‘advisor’. He signed those players after they were developed, and after they were already good. Do not mistake the claims of SSE Group with those of Big Timers baseball. They are not the same. I am proud of our record (not wins/losses, but success in building players and sending them to a higher level). I am proud of our organization. Bobby ‘wishes’ he had our financial resources but he (again) missed the point. The point (from our perspective) is that we do not have a financial stake in this debate, nor do we have a financial motive. Our ‘stake’ is in the betterment of baseball in this area, and betterment of the baseball players in this area. Bobby complains that we ‘constantly bash’ Big Timers, etc. on this board. That, sadly, is another mistruth. I did reply when his folks opened this ‘can of worms’ but I doubt (like everything else) that he can support that statement. I don’t want this to continue…but if Bobby thinks he can (in essence) call me a ‘liar’ and expect me to sit silently then he is as mistaken about that as he is about nearly everything else. I do note, however, that not once has Bobby Straface ever called me to discuss my concerns (nor even sent me a PM). I’m not that hard to find… Lastly, I am a ‘baseball guy’. Too much energy has been taken up on this issue. Don’t take my word for it…take the word of those who have been through the Big Timers’ program and be wary. These people will tell you about “pretty tall claims†that “pretty much did not happenâ€, about “overhyping†and warning others to be “very skepticalâ€. Again, I didn't create those statements -- I am just reporting them. I just want what is best for the players. I do not want their money, or to take the credit for their success (I agree with “The Voiceâ€â€¦credit to the players who work hard and parents as the “CEO†of their kids). The simple fact is that Bobby Straface and the Big Timers is not a ‘threat’ to our organization. Never has been, never will be…but I will not stand idly by while his organization, volunteers, etc. take shots at mine. We have done too much, too well, for too long to deserve that. And I will not let him mislead any parent or any player about me. I hope this is my last word on the subject. My hatchet’s buried... Chip Ferguson SE Texas Sun Devils Beaumont, Texas “And proud of itâ€

I cant find a team to play with or just practice with i need all the help i can get. I plan to move back to Bc but i guess ill just have to wait until i talk to there coachs. I hope it works out between me and Bc ive hurd Billy Bryant has a lot of good things for his baseballers thats why i hope to be with his team next year. So what would anyone recomend about me finding a team to get with before or after the season. Singleton

can we keep the football talk on the football board.....please??

I have never met a select baseball coach that could or would keep all of his promises. Also, please dont be mislead, whether you or the organization pays the bills - there is a "cost" to play select ball. Seek out the organization that truely covets your son for the right reasons. The coaches and staff that talk about work ethic and character development and a staff that builds confidence in its players. With most of these coaches player development for some players ends when a player from another organization becomes "available". This practice in itself I wouldnt say is bad - except that very few organizations will tell you up front that they will not stop seeking the best avaliable talent and eventually this may diminish some players playing time and opportunities. It takes integrity to declare these things and most simply wont be honest with parents and recruits up front. There is a difference between organizations that fill roster spots versus organizations that actually develop potential and talent. Every select coach I have ever met talks the talk - very few walk the walk. I am a believer in select baseball and its rewards for players that continue to work towards their goals and dreams. Hard honest work never goes unrewarded. Find the organization that will develop work ethic and will build confidence in your son.

yall are idiots...idk if this is just talk to stir the pot or if you actually think you're going to be that good...either way its pretty pathetic

Gee, the Golden Triangle media didn't put a lot of time in on a high school team that is not from the Golden Triangle. Go figure. They also did not spend any time on LaMarque so I guess we slighted them also. I wonder how much time the media around Dayton and Liberty spent on Nederland and WO-S? Dayton won the district so I guess you believe that they should be the talk of the town around Beaumont. Well it isn't going to happen, sorry. If Nederland wins district next year, I am not going to be shocked if the Bulldogs are not the talk of the town in Dayton. If Dayton has a bulletin board, I doubt they will be flapping ;their gums (or keyboards) about the GT next year.

all this talk is fun, but don't most good athletes eventually, sooner or later, move into real life situations. Does the geek spend the rest of his life talking about his high school accomplishments? Keep this all in perspective. Being a good football player doesn't mean squat!! Move on, mature and make a difference off the field.

Just from what I've heard lately I think UTEP is a strong contender. I had heard talk of A&M but that was last year and I don't know how strong a possibility that is anymore. None of this is based on fact, just word of mouth.

This thread was posted to see who you would pick on the feild Charles or Mosely... Not for you EC to slander Charles as a student. Mosely is an intellegent kid...good for him, I am an engineer and proud to see someone go for it. But being an engineer is not for everyone. I am intellegent but that gives me no right to call someone esle stupid. Charles may have struggled a bit but he is making his way. He will probaly spend four years in college and may not become a pro but he will have his degree. And if he becomes a pro his pay check will be far greater than the engineer. For a kid that let's say struggled. He used his talents to get himself somewhere... and will have a college degree. For you smart A$$ ECBUCFAN, stay in your place and talk football!!!! That is what this thread was about! And not to slander Mosely but he did well and I am proud to see him do well. He did not come out of one of the best districts in 5A... He came out of a 4A district on a down year... Great Kid, Great Year but no Jamal!!!!!

HJ wont even beat OF both times and OF will be starting 4 freshman this year (which are studs). Orangefield will be young young this year with the only All district pick returning will be the sophmore Peevey who was first team all district as a freshman. But after watching all of these teams play last year and seeing silsbee and Jasper last year in the Jasper Tourny, I will say 1-Silsbee-behind the pitching of the 6'5 letfy (who is only a Soph) Tied for second by spliting distict wins-Jasper-Senior, Seniors, Seniors BC- Kacey Jackson is a beast, and Stringer will pull out one win agianst Jasper. 4. Orangefield-Young but these kids can play and the Peevey kid pitches like a senior 5. Hj-Not enough pitching but good bats especially with the Spanky kid 6. HF- a young team that plays hard 7. Kville- young and up and comming team 8.WOS- wow talk about drop off this year

haha being that your on the team and all huh? HAHA we will see how yall do against silsbee BLEED ORANGE.. then you can talk

Now diva, I'll take your word on the speed, strength and zone reading ability, but your ability to comprehend is clearly lacking. I didn't call peolpe geeks who talked high school football, I was comparing geek and athletes on the post graduate walks down memory lane !!!! I know this a forum for high school football discussion, but expanding the talk into other areas that pertain to hs football seems harmless. last, but not least, playing hs football doesn't mean squat is a statement of perspective. HS football campared to almost anything in life will pale by comparison. If I've offended you or anyone else, I am sorry :roll: I will be more carefull in the future.

If HJ wont even beat OF both times and OF will be starting 4 freshman this year (which are studs). Orangefield will be young young this year with the only All district pick returning will be the sophmore Peevey who was first team all district as a freshman. But after watching all of these teams play last year and seeing silsbee and Jasper last year in the Jasper Tourny, I will say 1-Silsbee-behind the pitching of the 6'5 letfy (who is only a Soph) Tied for second by spliting distict wins-Jasper-Senior, Seniors, Seniors BC- Kacey Jackson is a beast, and Stringer will pull out one win agianst Jasper. 4. Orangefield-Young but these kids can play and the Peevey kid pitches like a senior 5. Hj-Not enough pitching but good bats especially with the Spanky kid 6. HF- a young team that plays hard 7. Kville- young and up and comming team 8.WOS- wow talk about drop off this year

Can't speak to why Brett Ramsey wasn't picked, but I certainly don't have a problem with why Dishon was picked. [Hidden Content] I don't see a reason to bring Dishon into a comparison with Ramsey in order to make a point here. Ask the question, "Why wasn't Ramsey picked?" Answer, "Don't know". Ask "Why was Dishon picked?" Obvious to me, but you can read it for yourself. Stir the pot, beat the dead horse, talk it into the ground, it's yesterday's news now, and regardless of who might think it was an injustice, it's done. Time to move on.

OF plays the toughest schedule possible. If we scheduled Central twice then coach A. doesn't view them as a weak team. It works the same for the Central coach. If she scheduled OF twice then she knew they would benefit from playing us. Tough competition gets you ready for a possible playoff run. Hopefully the game benefited both teams. There will always be talk. That's sports........................ Are you telling me that the world doesn't revolve around Orangefield? :shock:

Let that be your chastising lesson for the day. All you geeks get off of that computer and get to making a better life for us all.... while I sit here and talk about high school football like Al Bundy.

How come KFDM Coop can remove my post? He talks about someone and it's OK and I talk about hime and he removes my post! To find out more PM "KFDM Coop" and ask>

its up to your coach to nominate them.......talk to your HC

There has been no mention of the Auto Sports in the area. RE: Speedway 90 (circle track) & Ben Bruce Memorial Airpark Raceway (drag strip). These are sports too. There was an event in Evadale at the dragstrip last month called the Madness Series...there were over 2,300 people there. Why does no one talk about these sports. Thanks :cry:

Being on the team last year and I can say this for all the seniors that graduated, it's good to see the guys getting back to where we got last year. I got a chance to watch the team for the second time this year last weekend and with Chavis at strong side LB, Coleman in the middle, and Stelly on the weakside this defense should stay stout against the run since the defense is designed for the LB's to make tackles. Defensively against the pass, Chatman and Falgout need to show some leadership this week and talk their guys up and get them ready to play. Offensively all I can say is wow. Michaels tore it up against the varsity defense last year in practice so we knew he was gonna be good but my goodness... And Albert was doing the same thing last year he's doing this year, he just had a senior in front of him... That being said, against Cy-Falls theyll put up respectable games... As long as Powdrill, Banks and the rest of the receiving corps catch the ball, I don't see the offense having trouble cause they will always be able to run the ball... #11 just needs to use his head and make smart throws... Cy-Falls had a close game last week and I talked to a guy that graduated from Falls last year and he's telling me everyone is talking about playing Katy that's on the team... That being said, WB in a close HIGH scoring game...

Ok I know this may will cause some talk, but I think Brett Ramsey should have got 2nd team QB before Dishon. These are the stats I found from the Orange Leader. Dishon 1600 Total Yards 13 TD's Ramsey 1966 Total Yards 28 TD's

Hello and welcome to the All Southeast Texas Football Team Nomination Forum. In this forum you will have the opportunity to express who you believe should be on the team. Please be sure include the player's name, class standing, team, stats, and any other information that should be known. The first wave of nominations will end on December 20. The following day, December 21, we will have our nomination show on our radio show SETXsports Talk Live. On the show the finalists for each position will be announced. Following the show we will take the top finalists from each position, and then place those players in a poll for the masses to vote in. On December 30, 2006, voting will end for the All Southeast Texas Team. On January 3, 2006 we will release our All Southeast Texas Team, on SETXsports Live and also on KFDM Channel 6. Please note that while we will take into consideration the votes of the SETXsports.com members, we wont neccesarily choose the player with the most votes to be on the All Southeast Texas Team. This is done so that smaller schools will not be at a disadvantage. Opinions of Coaches and SETXsports Staff Members will also be taken into consideration. Lastly, we reserve the right to add different award categories if we feel it is neccessary. As always, we will try and recognize as many players as we can. Just because a player is not a finalist, doesn't neccesarily mean he wont be a part of the team in some way. We take pride in having the opportunity to recognize local athletes for their accomplishments. So Let the Nominating Begin!!

For a better bracket placement, maybe you can talk the Mustangs into going for 3rd place next year!!! :wink:

hey does anyone know if the micah mosely kid is gettin in talk from college coaches????