Cowboy4jc

At the moment yes

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Who won the LC-M vs. Livingston game?
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I heard Livingston by 5

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why such a hater laidyraider
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With his level of concern with Vidor's program and lack of interest in Lumberton's I would say he is a disgruntled Vidor fan who masqurades himself as a Lumberton fan to make it seem inconspicuous that he continuously bashes Vidor; everyone likes a good conspiracy theory right?

To keep on track with the thread, I would say it depends on if Vidor can get their shots to fall early in the game. I've seen both teams. Vidor shoots the ball exceptionally well from behind the arc while Ozen has some of the best teamwork I have seen from a team this year. I'll say Ozen pulls it out by 10. Teamwork is too good and the pressure they apply will make it hard to shoot well.

Livingston last Friday

Lumerton beat PNG

Lumberton had a few good years in the mid 2000s. Had a good coach and 1 or 2 D1 players, one of which was the coaches daughter. After she graduated he left,  I think after that Lumberton got a subpar coach and the  fired him after a couple years. After him they got Gholston who was an assistant coach. By the time he got there the team had completely regressed but they let him go after two years. Then last year they moved coach Goad from softball to basketball and shes done an alright job. Shes not a bad coach, she just needs a lot more experience. She got the team to the playoffs for the first time since 06 last year and I have faith in them going again this year.

The question I asked was not in regard to the one post on this thread but to the multiple post across other threads constantly downing Vidor's team. I have been one of the only ones to post about Lumberton this year and it seems odd to me that if you are as big of a Lumberton Lady Raider fan as you claim to be that you post next to nothing about them. With the exception of the Vidor-Lumberton game. Please don't take offense; it just seems strange in my opinion.

I'm looking for the Lady Raiders to take the 4th spot so I'm not sure if you think I'm the one who excluded them from the playoffs. I've been at almost every game this year so I know what they are capable of. They have the talent to play well.

And as far as Nederland and LCM go, the Lady Raiders this year so far are 2-1 against Nederland; they beat them by 37 in the Nederland Tournament, lost their district opener at home by 8 and then won at Nederland by 13. Against LCM Lumberton is 0-1 only having played them once where they lost by 5 at home.

If you don't mind me asking Ladyraider, for someone who identifies them-self with the Raiders, you seem to show a lot more interest in Vidor's program. Any reason why? Just to clarify, I'm not attacking you, I'm just curious. 

Looks like the playoff race for the 4th spot will be interesting.

I heard the other night that PNG may have beaten Nederland in district play. Is there any truth in that?

I agree Slam, we are all experts in hindsight. We are young starting a freshman,  two sophmores, and two seniors who didnt play much last year. In fact the two sophmores are the only girls on the team with substantial experience from last year.

As far as frustrations with Coach Goad go. It seems as if she quit coaching the team after about their twentieth game. By this I mean she was actually adjusting as the half and as the game progressed to help the girls win. In multiple games they went into the half down 10+, and adjusted to come back for a win. She doesnt do that anymore. Whatever she starts the game in is what she finishes the game with. At other times she just doesnt put much thought into what she does. For example. When we played and lost to Nederland after beating them by 37 a week before. The offense we ran in that game was an offense she spent 30 minutes teaching them the day before the game. Gametime cane, they ran it ineffectively, and she never got out of it. After the game she threw the loss on the girls.

The last thing is this. Im not sure how long you stayed Friday but after the game she brought the girls into the gym, griped at them asking what was wrong with [u]them[/u] and why [u]they[/u] did such a bad job before lining them up to run baselines and do push ups as punishment for the game. I have no problem with punishment for a bad game, however we are 25 games into the season and this is the 1st time shes punished them this season. Its a little late in my opinion. I also didnt see her run a single baseline for her mediocre coaching that night.

Overall I do like Coach Goad and she has shown to have a lot of potential to be a good coach but its hard to understand what she has been doing lately.

It was an entertaining game to watch and the paper did not lie. LCM came to play and flat outplayed the Raiders, they set up the game with an aggressive defense which really put the Raiders on their heels forcing 13 turnovers. In response the Raiders played a lot of individual basketball (I couldn't tell what kind of offense they were even running). One person would get the ball and try to drive and in response the Bears would block the lane forcing a highly contested shot from the Raiders. The Bears did well on offense as well working the ball around and scoring even on contested shots.

The Raiders were out coached in my opinion. By that I mean Goad made no adjustments throughout the entire game. Mainly staying in a passive 2-3 zone which gave the Bears too many easy shots from the field. Nothing was really done about the lack of an offense throughout the night by the Raiders as well.

Another heavy blow was sophomore scoring and defensive leader number 1 receiving three fouls in the first 5 minutes of the game, and then sitting until the third where she quickly received a 4th and fouled out early in the 4th (she played maybe 12 minutes of the game at most). In my opinion two fouls were warranted three were not. Number 10 also fouled out which hurt as well. I will say the Lady Raiders did a good job shooting to keep themselves in the game.

I hate to see that they have lagged off so bad since starting 12-1 beating teams like Port Arthur and Westbrook but in my opinion, until the Raiders get a coach who actually knows how to coach they will have a hard time winning. Overall the Bears were better coached and played a better game last night. Great job LCM.

I think the rankings would help promote a little more traffic on this side of the site.
I would say top 5 are
1. Ozen
2. PAM
3t. Central
3t. HJ
3t. BH

Ozen beat Lumberton 79-47 I think. It was a pretty good game both ways

I was told they beat Orangfield 59-36 and Kountze 67-38. They play BC again tomorrow at 3 for the silver bracket championship.

Lumberton over BC 45-37

It was the worst game I've seen them play. They didnt rebound, didnt shoot free throws, had 10 turnovers in the first half (they've been averaging around 9 a game) and for the most part just played more like 5 individuals instead of a team. They just didnt show up to play.

Nederland beat lumberton 58-52. Worst game I have seen this year by them.

PAM was also ranked in 5A at the time that they lost to/beat them.

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Lumberton came back and beat Port Arthur in the Nederland tournament finals. I'm not sure if you knew about that it not but I'm pretty sure that is why TABC ranked them. In my opinion though the only two rankings that matter are where are you standing at the end of district going into playoffs and where do you stand when the season is finished.
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oh i didn't know that....so who did they lose to then.

and yes i agree
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They lost to PAM in pool play during the Nederland Tournament, however they came back and beat PAM in the tournament finals to win the tournament. So far this year Lumberton has beaten every team that has beaten them. (Westbrook, PAM, Dayton)

Port Arther was 19th last week

Lumberton came back and beat Port Authur in the Nederland tournament finals. I'm not sure if you knew about that it not but I'm pretty sure that is why TABC ranked them. In my opinion though the only two rankings that mattar are where are you standing at the end of district going into playoffs and where do you stand when the season is finished.

Lumberton schedule says the same so I think it was just a misprint

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I agree. That was for bucket who made a deal out of Lumberton being ranked.

Well it does help with the girls confidence and as an intimidation factor when playing teams who allow themselves to be beat before they show up to play but as far as winning a game with a ranking. Not at all.  :)
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Number 1s can be beat i never said they couldn't.  Tournament play is alot different than district play and playoffs....if you were a coach you would know.  not making excuse for teams to lose, but most highly ranked teams will often have losses on their records from tournament play rather than an individual game played during the week.... but i don't expect you to know that as a fan or a parent.

i am unbiased when i make my remarks because i don't have a dog in the hunt.  im a basketball junkie....Yes its just my opinion, but my remarks are not swayed by an emotional attachment.

congrats to memorial for winning.
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Yes sir I understand that. I went to Hardin-Jefferson and was a trainer on the team. We started out ranked number one my junior yet and went 37-8 that year so I know what you mean.

In the other post I wasn't attacking you by asking about a lower ranked team beating a number one. I was curious because it seemed like you were saying for a team to be ranked at all they had to fair well against a number one team and that seemed odd to me. To me ozen is beatable but Is probably still one if the best teams in the state. there are top ten teams that Ozen would eat their lunch. That's why I asked about it; I wasn't jumping your case or anything. And also, I am way too young to have children so believe me when I say I am not a parent. Haha