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Not in his world. If some people don’t like laws, it is a slippery slope. I see quite a few slippery slope comments on various forums. Many of the claimed ss situations happened many years ago. One like the SCOTUS decision that agrees with a state’s right (10th Amendment) to force vaccines is over 100 years old. That ss must take a while to gather momentum...

Ok, in your opinion l it is an overreach, they are all laughing in the back room, nobody’s wearing masks, the cops don’t lose their jobs over draconian rules, the governor is a rino… And she has likely about to do time in the county jail. You might call that a fantasy.

I can only think of one law that requires you to break another law before the first law comes into play. That is failure to identify. The law in Texas says that you do not have to give your name, address or date of birth to a police officer unless the police officer has arrested you. In order to lawfully take you in custody for failure to identify under refusing to give information, the officer first had to be arrest you for another crime.

There is no such thing as a law requiring a person to violate another law before you tell somebody to leave your property. That is utterly ridiculous. Private property is private property. That bank is no different than your living room. I cannot come into your home without your permission and I cannot stay there without your permission. If I come over to watch the ball game and you didn’t ask me to leave, I cannot demand the right to stay there. If you call the police and have me thrown out or arrested what is the police officer going to do? Is he going to ask you, but what law has he violated? Yiu are making up or asking about laws that do not exist. The trespass law has been posted. It doesn’t say you were given a warning not to trespass and you violated another law. in fact the Texas law goes as far as to say that you have already been given a warning not to come out to the property here for example there is purple paint on trees no more than 100 feet apart, they are crops ready for harvesting with or without offense, offense intended to keep in cattle, a sign, etc. These are all considered that you have been warned and they do not require another law other than the fact that you were warned.

I realize if you would like to make up your own laws Texas law says it if you’re on property and fail to leave after being toody or have been given notice, you are guilty of criminal trespass. I think the actual law has been posted on here a couple of times. You can choose to ignore it if you wish but it is a lot. As the saying goes, you’re entitled to your opinion but you’re not entitled to your own facts. The fact is she was told to leave several times by management and the officer. She refused. That is criminal trespass in Texas. A couple of days later after she got out of jail, she got on television and stated exactly the same thing. She was told to leave and she refused in her own words. Basically she confessed to the crime.

Public access has nothing to do with trespassing. Private property does. She broke the law, did it on camera and then got on a news interview and stated that she did it. I guess even her admission is not enough when you don’t like the argument.

Like I said, you are making a political argument because you don’t like masks. Great. She is still absolutely wrong by any legal stretch that anyone can come up with. She should have been locked up again for trespassing in Texas City. The reason that she wasn’t was the police took the easy way out (understandably) and merely serve the warrant on her from Galveston. That saves an awful lot of paperwork. Just serve the warrant all the also had to do was drop the woman off at the jail. That probably saved about two or three hours well she was able to do something else and deal with this idiot. I actually expect you to ignore my posts. You have no valid argument in response. Oh, except, I don’t like masks.

For the people who say that the police should not have been called, what were the other options open to the bank? The first was allow her to stay against their rules. The other is to put their hands on her and physically remove her. Chapter 9 of the penal code says that you could use any force necessary to remove a person who is trespassing from your property except deadly force. Of course at the bank had done that then people would be up in arms claiming that she was assaulted. That would not be the case but that would be the claim. The last option which is what they chose, was for the bank to call the police and report a crime in progress. if a person came to visit any of you at your own home but then started an argument inside of the home, should you just allow them to stay there if they refuse to leave? Do you call the police? Or do you kick the persons butt and throw them out which is what the law says you can do? if this is a waste of police, then the police could quit responding to about 90% of what they respond to today. This case is all about freedom. It is the freedom of a private property owner to control his whole property. It does not matter if masks work or not, it does not matter if Covid is a hoax, it does not matter if Dr. Fauci is telling the truth and nothing else matters except the private property rights of the owner or manager. All the rest is a political smokescreen because some people don’t like an owner controlling his own property.

Absolutely!!! In the public or on your own property… Of which she was at neither.

The people in charge at the bank told her to put on a mask and she said no. The police showed up and again told her to put on the mask and she said no. I counted at least 11 times that he told her she had no lawful right to be there without a mask, she had to put it on or leave, she would be arrested if she did not leave, etc. She then drove a few miles to Texas City a couple days later and did the exact same thing at Home Depot. At what point do you think that other people telling her, who were not in authority, would change her mind?

About 95% of police calls are for what you said was “this crap”.

It was not very violent however she broke the law of criminal trespass and maybe resisting arrest or evading detention. it is hard to tell from the body cam footage.

And that has what to do with private property or trespassing?

Exactly what freedom are you giving up on another person’s private property?

Own BOA for reporting a crime?

My only problem with Cruz was that I still have seven weeks of vacation left this year and was not invited. I don’t know how many there are on the state level however there are 13 Democratic US House representatives from Texas. Since they are actually in small districts and should be more closely in tuned with their constituents, I would like to see a detail outlay of what each of them did to help “their” Community. I mean if they weren’t helping peoples shovel snow or under houses fixing broken water lines, are the Democrats going to vote for them in the next election or does this fake perceived anger only apply to Republicans?

You bring up a very good point, especially for the people that will not go through self check out. I wonder if any of these same people do not use ATM machines. Surely they all use cash and write checks because to do anything else causes the loss of jobs. When I started working my current job 37 years ago, my bank had approximately eight tellers on duty the entire time and had a police officer To secure the lobby area. There were several loan officers and associates also working. Now there are two tellers, one of which works the drive-through and only for five other people. This strictly came from automation. I am wondering why grocery stores and other retail outlets are somehow consider different. I also wonder how many of those same people never buy anything online.

This is not unlike the stock market question and frenzy gun buying. This is the exact same thing but with a different product. If the vaccine was a stock, it would be going through the roof right now. I swear if you could buy a ticket for a dollar to get in line for the vaccine, you could probably sell it to someone for $10 and he could turn around and sell it for $100. That is a 10,000% profit… Which kind of answers your GME Question in the other thread. However… At least in this case you get a product that might be worth $100 to you even though another guy got it at $1. It is like scalping tickets. How much is it worth to you?

I don’t think I have gone through a checkout line except at Academy for over a year. I especially like to go to Sam’s and I check out on my phone. I don’t even go through self check out line with merely pay for it on an app and show my phone as I walk out the door. Every time I put an item in my basket I scan it with my phone. When I am through with shopping, I hit pay on the app and then walk out of the store. I believe Costco has a store in Houston that when you put an item in your basket, it automatically goes to your bill which is paid when you go out of the store with the basket. You don’t even have to scan it with your phone. People might think that they are cutting a big pig in the butt with a small knife by avoiding Walmart however they are just postponing the future for a short time. Lowe’s and H-E-B now have the same self checkout lines. McDonald’s now has a kiosk for ordering. When the $15 minimum wage goes into effect, probably before long, look for the process to be sped up even more. All big stores well eventually go to this model because they will have to to stay in business. There will be no small mom and pop supermarket so you will either go to Walmart or H-E-B or Kroger and go through their self check out or you will just not eat. This is not even a new concept. When I got my drivers license had my first car in the mid-1970s, no one was allowed to pump their own gasoline. Everything was full service. When gas stations went to self-serve only, people did not quit buying gasoline in anger or in protest. They simply moved on with their lives. When Henry Ford started assembly lines in therefore streamlined industry, he cost certain jobs. Those jobs even today but mostly done with robots. The benefit of last workers is translated into less price. I have not seen people quit buying cars. Store like JCPenney and Sears have gone by the wayside because they could not keep up with modern technology and trends. They stuck with tradition and failed. I love tradition however when tradition loses money, it goes by the wayside. At the same time that I was pulling up to full salve gasoline pumps in the 1970s, the only way I could make a phone call was holding on to a handset and had a wire attached to it where I could move up to maybe 10 feet away. Workers had to come to your house to install it and to do repairs if needed. Where are those workers now? That’s right, although some exist, for the most part we have gone to cellular technology and the guy that installs the wires in your house no longer has a job. Did we not buy cell phones because AT&T workers were out of a job? I love to see people in long lines at Walmart or H-E-B or Lowe’s. That means the self checkout line will be a lot quicker for me.

It is not unlike the ammo and gun craze during the Obama administration. That was when it looked like they were going to try to outlaw guns, magazines and/or ammo or tax them to death where they would be legal to buy however too expensive to pay the taxes on. That gun/ammo buying frenzy was in effect, like a stock market bubble. People for example who are buying guns at Academy like an AR 15 for $650 and then selling them for $2,000. The store shelves were empty because of that panic. Many people saw this at their last chance chance to ever by a gun. Because of that buying spree, people could not get their hands on a gun or ammo and there was the fear that they would soon be banned and could never again buy any. If you could get your hands on a gun at retail cost to you, you could almost certainly turn it for a 200% or 300% profit. I bought three guns during this time at Academy as I was walking to the store and saw them put a couple on the shelf. This is about the only time you could buy because they would only stay there a few minutes. I still have those guns and did not buy them to sell but just to have my hands on them just in case. Many people back then were buying guns just to sell which is not unlike stocks. You buy for a low price and hope you sell it for a higher price for profit When stocks rise in price because of a solid business performance (or speculation thereof) such an Amazon, Exxon/Mobil or Apple and it is for a long range gain in profit, it makes sense. That is what many or most people’s retirement is based on. You buy stocks from solid companies in hopes that 20 or 30 years later it will have increased in value more than The cost of inflation. What happens if the rise in stock prices (usually rapid) is based on nothing but any irrational hope or fear? That is the bubble that will eventually pop. With a gun and ammo buying frenzy a few years ago, people paid $3000 for a $600 AR15 and then six months later we’re stuck with it because they frenzy faded away and guns were now back to a normal price. Sure they could keep the gun however have they waited a few months they could’ve gotten the same gun and saved over $2000. Now they can’t sell it because the prices have come down, to some extent even lower than what they were before the crazes because of these now glut in guns and ammo. I was buying 9mm ammo a year ago $8.75 a box and that was delivered to my house. That was tax, cost and shipping combined. A new gun and ammo bubble going on now has been created because it appears as though Biden and the Democrats are going to make a hard push to take away gun rights. Will they be successful? I don’t know but right now what was nine dollars a box for ammo a year ago is now costing $50 a box. People are actually buying at that price. So what happens a year from now if it returns to normal and you can buy that same box delivery for $8.75 again? You will still have the ammo but you will have spent a small fortune trying to get it because of the frenzy. That is what is happening with GME right now. The stock market is based on volume of buying and selling and what do you think something will be worth. People started buying GameStop (GME) stocks and what appears to be a coordinated effort to convince people to keep buying. In a way it was almost like a pyramid scheme, but legal. The more people bought, the more the prices went up. People buy stocks to make a profit and when you see profits going through the roof then you want to get in on the game. If you buy a stock at $1 and two weeks later it was $10, you made 1000% profit. So if you spent $1000 on a stock in that case, it would be worth $10,000 at the end of the week. Many people sell on the way up which is their intent and people continue to buy thinking they too will make money. It will s like this, a guy buys in stock and $1 and sells at $10. The guy he sold it to at $10 hangs on until maybe $15 and then he sells. Another guy wants to get it on the action and he buys it at $15 in sales at $25. So GME went up 8,000% in a year. Have you been able to predict it and hold your poise, you could have spent $10 in stocks a year ago and had $80,000 last week. That is a pretty good return on a $10 investment… But it was based on wishful thinking and nothing more. Again, if that was based on a solid business model and GME was looking to make a huge profit selling video games next year, it would make sense to rise in price. The problem is that GME is a troubled company and might even be declaring bankruptcy soon. So you were buying a stock for maybe hundreds of dollars but reality reality it’s only worth a dollar because the company is about to go under. You can bet that people became millionaires during this deal but what about the people that just bought after the 8000% rise when the bubble pops? Like the $50 box of ammo that is now worth $10, you lose. With the ammo at least you could go shoot it. If you bought a stock with $500 and a week later it is worth $10, you just lost a ton of money. Unlike bullets, there is no product in hand. You were just buying a stock hoping that the company makes money in the future. If that future does not exist then you just as well go set your money on fire in the front yard. The bubble like that will always burst because there is nothing to support the frenzy. It is just emotional buying and selling and wanting to get in on the get rich quick scheme. If you get in early enough you might get your wish. At some point people are going to quit buying in the last people in our going to lose big-time. it is exactly what happened in the 1929 stock market crash but it was not a single stock but pretty much have market wide incident. clear as mud?

I have often wondered the Democratic fixation with bayonet lugs. I have been a police officer for almost 40 years and I have never heard of anyone stabbed with a bayonet on the end of a rifle. I believe that I have been to over 150 murder scenes and probably 10 times that many serious injury assaults or assaults with a deadly weapon. I have never heard a bayonet on the end of a rifle even mentioned, much less used. Yet, The US Congress (left side of the aisle) brings that up into laws as if that would somehow make any difference in anything. Not a single murder will be stopped or has been stopped by passing a law about a bayonet lug yet it was in the previous assault weapons ban and has been continually pushed since it expired (the same with barrel shrouds and other features). I can come to only two conclusions. One is they have absolutely no idea what they are talking about, which somehow does not seem strange to me. The other is that they know it is complete nonsense but they are trying to find any reason in an attempt to justify their beliefs, which somehow does not seem strange to me. We all should know that the dreaded “assault rifle” that seems to occupy their time, only accounts for about 2% of the homicides each year in this country. That means they are not very occupied with the other 98% or like above, they know it is complete nonsense but it is the means to an end. Either way it is false… Which is a nice way of saying, it is a lie. Want real comedy? Watch some of the many YouTube videos of Democratic politicians talking about guns.

Uhhhhh..... no. You can’t legally use deadly force to stop someone from trespassing, much less a class C ( think traffic citation) offense.

Exactly what do you mean by no restrictions? Drones have some of the most restrictive laws out there and I believe Texas has the most restrictive drone laws in the United States. just like speeding, there is a law in place but people get away with it all the time. For every person that gets a speeding ticket there are probably 1000 people speeding at that time that will not get a ticket.

Or how did PNG beat Nederland who then ripped off 8 straight?

I figured that but that seemed a little too simplistic and must have had some hidden meaning. 😂 My mother always said, simple things for simple minds.