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15 minutes ago, Go-rilla said:

BH had multiple D1 players in the 1990's and won 1 state championship. Its hard to win state. BH had kendal shaw (Vanderbilt) and lost in 4a semi finals. BH lost in Semis with collier to Canyon. Dont know how many WNBA players Canyon had that year. My point is winning state aint easy. Look at all the free throws Brownsboro missed down the stretch to make it interesting. HJ was sloppy with the BB and it cost them. Stop blaming the coach. You'd be praising him if they made 2 more points.

Yes, it’s hard to win State, no doubt. Never said it’s easy. Also, considering Barbers Hill and all the talent they’ve had, was at a different level. The difference In 4A and 5A statewide is astronomical. You can have 3 D1 players in 5A and just be top 10 in talent. In 4A, it’s rare to have 3 D1 players, much less an All American and 2 other D1 players. It’s completely different. As far as coaching, I’m not totally blaming Fogo. I actually think he’s a very solid coach who’s built a great program at HJ, kudos to him for that, I certainly can’t do what he does. BUT, to your point, it’s hard to win State. 99% of coaches will never win State, whether that’s due to not having talent or running up against a better coach. Sorry, but I think Fogo is in the latter category. He’s a very good coach, but not good enough to win State. He’ll NEVER have nearly as good a chance to win a Title than he did the last 4 years. Ever, and he didn’t get it done...sorry. 

3 hours ago, OneChance said:

In the four years Jackson has been there, three girls have went on to play JUCO, one her Freshman year, she went to Angelina JC and didn’t play much and only stayed her Freshman year. The other two graduated Jacksons Sophomore year, one has played at Coastal Bend JC and has performed really well, the other went to Hill College, but ended up not playing, but went back to Jacksonville College this year in January and have no idea how she did. Nobody this year is graduating and committed to play somewhere in College.

Next year, Beavers is projected to get Div 1 scholarship offers and the year after that Sneed is projected to get Div 1 scholarships. I don’t know of any others on the current roster projected to go play after High School, I could be wrong, but I don’t know any of the younger ones.

Asia Wheeler has done well the next level, albeit small school, but very successful. I’m including Beavers and Sneed in my original post. That’s my point. This is a 4A team with a McDonalds All American and #1 recruit in Texas, with 2 other future D1 players. That’s an ABUNDANCE of talent at a 4A school. Not to mention all 3 play different positions, PG, SF/EVERYTHING and PF/C, a PERFECT mix of talent. The talent gap in that game last night was astronomical. It’s an ENORMOUS disappointment this team never won a State Title the last 4 years. If you think different, you’re absolutely kidding yourself...PERIOD. 

I agree it’s not the NBA, not tonight at least. Buuuuut, it’s not that far off, at least not the point I’m trying to make. Which is, HJ was the MOST TALENTED team in 4A for 4 STRAIGHT years and didn’t win 1 Title. So in NBA terms, they were the best team in the Finals and got swept 4-0...not good. 

Fair enough, well played. Just curious, how much other talent did Atlanta have? Any other players that played D1 in his 4 years? Any other players even play at the next level?  I genuinely don’t know, just asking. HJ does, at least 3 or so since Jackson has been there. 

Brownsboro played great, no doubt, credit to them. What I’m saying is this...HJ beats that team 9 times out of 10, you can’t allow that 1 time to be the one that counts. When you have FAR more talent, you have to win when it counts. Just like last season for HJ, far more talent than Canyon, couldn’t get it done. When you’re the most talented team 4 years in a row and don’t win, it’s not the talent, it’s the coaching. 

Completely agree, totally underachieved, and I don’t blame the girls.  I feel really bad for Jackson, she deserves a Championship, so do other girls in that program. They got outcoached every year at some point. WAY TOO much talent the last 4 years to not win at least one Title. 

They did, Charlie Callier, incredible player, IN 5A. Big difference in talent from 5A to 4A. HJ is a 4A school with the top recruit in the entire state at any classification and also has a lot of other talent. Sneed is a D1 talent as well. HJ had FAR MORE talent than any other 4A team the last 2 seasons and couldn’t win, especially in tonight’s game. 

I’m curious to know the last time a small school had a McDonalds All American in Texas that never won State, boys or girls. Hard to believe. 

Couldn’t agree more. 

Argyle having no issues with the press either, leading to a lot of easy buckets. Not sure I’d press this team in the 2nd, they pass the ball really well. 

32-24 Argyle. Hawks just giving wide open looks from 3 all game and Argyle is making them pay. Might want to tighten up the defense on the perimeter. 

Might’ve had a little hangover after big win last night. Finally woke up in the 3rd though. 

HJ plays like this vs Argyle it will be ugly. 

La Vega by 5, hope I’m wrong. 

Any updates on the games today and tonight’s matchups?

Does anybody have scores from tonight?

Any updates?

Sorry, maybe it’s just my phone, but the Aransas Pass spot on the tournament info thread is blank. 

Does anybody have a game schedule for the Aransas Pass tournament?