badndn

Yea after the UT game and the first half of this game, I thought LU had figured out how to play some defense. I actually thought, WOW, this could be the start of something great...Then we came out the second half and needed the Hymlic!!!

[quote name="baddog" post="926336" timestamp="1291510932"] [quote author=badndn link=topic=76721.msg925756#msg925756 date=1291471191] [quote author=#1 NDNFAN link=topic=76721.msg924756#msg924756 date=1291352503] [quote author=BaseBow link=topic=76721.msg924172#msg924172 date=1291307026] [quote author=mat link=topic=76721.msg924162#msg924162 date=1291305869] [quote author=BaseBow link=topic=76721.msg924079#msg924079 date=1291299221] [quote author=football link=topic=76721.msg924062#msg924062 date=1291296717] I thought that he had been in playoffs 16 out of 18 years. [/quote]WITH EVERY BODY PRETTY MUCH MAKING THE PLAYOFFS IT IS NOT VERY HARD.... WELL 4 OUT OF THE 7 TEAMS GOING...HOW ABOUT A DISTRICT TITLE IN 20 YEARS ;) [/quote] Everyone wants a state title. How many area 4A teams have won a state title in the last 20 years? [/quote]Nederland needs a [glow=red,2,300]DISTRICT TITLE [/glow] in the last 18 years not a state title [/quote]Isn't it true that Nederland would be the 20-4A district champions this year, if they had stopped Central from scoring in the final minutes?? [/quote] False..They'd be Co-District Champs with PNG and Central, but could claim DC because of wins over both teams. PNG ran a spread offense the past two years without a Cam Newton type at QB. Ran it very, very well to be exact. You need a Cam Newton Tpe to run the Spread Option! Besides Nederland had the closest thing to a Cam Newton Type this year. 6'5" 245 lb QB. Just couldn't run.  ;D [/quote] He ran just good enough, don't you think? OK nit-picker, don't you think PNG would have maybe even won state with a Cam Newton type QB.....just a thought. That's being very successful. [/quote] No. I dopnt. Our offense scored. Having a Cam Newton Type would not have made a difference. Having an Auburn Defense Would!!! We lost because of our Defense or lack their of. Our offense could score on anyone. Point being made is that Nederlands problem the past few years has not been its Spread Offense. It's been the fact that the OLine was not very good. If the OLine is not good it doesn't matter what offense you run!

[quote name="BaseBow" post="925790" timestamp="1291479984"] [quote author=badndn link=topic=76721.msg925756#msg925756 date=1291471191] [quote author=#1 NDNFAN link=topic=76721.msg924756#msg924756 date=1291352503] [quote author=BaseBow link=topic=76721.msg924172#msg924172 date=1291307026] [quote author=mat link=topic=76721.msg924162#msg924162 date=1291305869] [quote author=BaseBow link=topic=76721.msg924079#msg924079 date=1291299221] [quote author=football link=topic=76721.msg924062#msg924062 date=1291296717] I thought that he had been in playoffs 16 out of 18 years. [/quote]WITH EVERY BODY PRETTY MUCH MAKING THE PLAYOFFS IT IS NOT VERY HARD.... WELL 4 OUT OF THE 7 TEAMS GOING...HOW ABOUT A DISTRICT TITLE IN 20 YEARS ;) [/quote] Everyone wants a state title. How many area 4A teams have won a state title in the last 20 years? [/quote]Nederland needs a [glow=red,2,300]DISTRICT TITLE [/glow] in the last 18 years not a state title [/quote]Isn't it true that Nederland would be the 20-4A district champions this year, if they had stopped Central from scoring in the final minutes?? [/quote] False..They'd be Co-District Champs with PNG and Central, but could claim DC because of wins over both teams. PNG ran a spread offense the past two years without a Cam Newton type at QB. Ran it very, very well to be exact. You need a Cam Newton Tpe to run the Spread Option! Besides Nederland had the closest thing to a Cam Newton Type this year. 6'5" 245 lb QB. Just couldn't run.  ;D [/quote]You guys had two of the best R.BS THE PAST TWO YEARS IN DISTRICT that helps the passing game a little ;) [/quote] Nah! It was actually the Hogs up front!!!

Typical LU. New year same crap. Blown 13 pt lead.

[quote name="#1 NDNFAN" post="924756" timestamp="1291352503"] [quote author=BaseBow link=topic=76721.msg924172#msg924172 date=1291307026] [quote author=mat link=topic=76721.msg924162#msg924162 date=1291305869] [quote author=BaseBow link=topic=76721.msg924079#msg924079 date=1291299221] [quote author=football link=topic=76721.msg924062#msg924062 date=1291296717] I thought that he had been in playoffs 16 out of 18 years. [/quote]WITH EVERY BODY PRETTY MUCH MAKING THE PLAYOFFS IT IS NOT VERY HARD.... WELL 4 OUT OF THE 7 TEAMS GOING...HOW ABOUT A DISTRICT TITLE IN 20 YEARS ;) [/quote] Everyone wants a state title. How many area 4A teams have won a state title in the last 20 years? [/quote]Nederland needs a [glow=red,2,300]DISTRICT TITLE [/glow] in the last 18 years not a state title [/quote]Isn't it true that Nederland would be the 20-4A district champions this year, if they had stopped Central from scoring in the final minutes?? [/quote] False..They'd be Co-District Champs with PNG and Central, but could claim DC because of wins over both teams. PNG ran a spread offense the past two years without a Cam Newton type at QB. Ran it very, very well to be exact. You need a Cam Newton Tpe to run the Spread Option! Besides Nederland had the closest thing to a Cam Newton Type this year. 6'5" 245 lb QB. Just couldn't run.  ;D

[quote name="UNLV" post="924163" timestamp="1291305927"] As usual, you guys know nothing. A few months ago the biggest argument against LU, UNT, and any other regional school joining the WAC was travel. Well guess what?  The center is now in Texas. With Utah st nearly out the door, Idaho and SJSU are now the odd balls much as Tech was for years. [/quote] Yeah we are all clueless...You are so much more in tune with reality than anyone else!  ::) A few moths ago the WAC would have been entising to a UNT, ULL because they had Boise St., Hawaii and Nevada...But the travel [b]WAS[/b] the biggest issue. Now without programs that have gotten national attention the past 5 years, what is the draw for UNT and ULL?? Better off expanding the Sunbelt.

TexazBall, you got Mitchell as Newcomer and 1st team. Can't have both.

BISD has open enrollment within the district if I am not mistaken. It has to do with the two "Magnet" schools correct? If a player transfers to LCM and is found not to have paid the $1700 annual fee and still lives outside the LCM district, then I would call for LCM's head! Serious multiple year penalties in whatever sport it is. This has to be governed tightly.

[quote name="scapegoat" post="923909" timestamp="1291258008"] I am sure you guys can produce a list that is better than our district coaches that cut film and scout for a living.I am not saying they are perfect.I am sure they are better than the agenda oriented list you will produce! [/quote] Wrong...Head Coaches voted. Head Coaches don't cut film and scout...They have Middle School coaches and lower level coaches doing these things for them and they get a report. This has allways been a big problem at the college level with the coaches polls. Most coaches admitted that the SID actually votes for them because they pay more attention to the football landscape.

[quote name="BaseBow" post="924047" timestamp="1291294172"] Central=11 P.N.G=6 Livingston=4 Nederland=3 L.C.M=3 Ozen=2 Vidor=1 ...I guess you do like it Soulja .. :D [/quote] Typically the DC gets the most on the team. and so on. Nederland only having 2 on the list would validate Sonnier and Neumans spots. Lots of youth on that team. So essentially Nederland has 3 with Neuman. Green was the hardest not to put on the team. In the end that came down to wins and losses since there were some very good QBs this year. Newcomer of the year is usually a Sophomore. Hard to argue that Mitchell being a Sophomore and leading his team to a DC is not Newcomer of the year.

[quote name="UNLV" post="923984" timestamp="1291263841"] With Utah st nearly out the WAC door, that leaves San Jose st Idaho New Mexico st UTSA Texas st La Tech Denver If the Wac could unload Idaho and San Jose, Could the remaining 5 be enough to lure Lamar, UNT, ULL, and Ark st. Before anyone scream UNT would never. UNT is not going CUSA. CUSA will take Big 12 left overs after the Big 12 collapse. [/quote] Sunbelt is better than what you have here. No way those three would leave Sunbelt for this.

This was the case a few years back. PNG vs Brenham and Nederland vs LaMarque back to back at Reliant to open the season, then the following season also at Reliant PNG vs LaMarque and Nederland vs Brenham. We loved it!

If you can't engage in any extraciricular activities (UIL) then there will be no recruiting. Kinda useless if you think about it. What kid wants to go to another school (maybe better academically) and pay for it, but not be involved in any UIL events?? don't think just sports here folks.

Don't get offended, it's an opinion!!! More PNG Offense, Less PNG Defense! Defense was tuff for me, becuase from what I saw at PNG games, no defense was very good (we scored alot on everyone). Also went with 2 RB and 3 WR on offense for 13 and 4 DLine, 4 LB for 12 all due to different schemes. [b]2010 District 20-4A All-District Picks[/b] MVP: Trevin Sonnier, 5’9” 165 lb, Sr., Nederland Offensive MVP: Brennan Doty, 6’2", 180 lb., Sr., Port Neches-Groves Defensive MVP: Kewan Alfred, 6’2", 225 lb., Sr., Beaumont Central Newcomer of the Year: Robert Mitchell, 6’, 180 lb., So., Beaumont Central Coach Of the Year: Larry Neuman, Nederland 1st Team Offense Pos.     Name     School QB Hunter Gonzales Little Cypress-Mauriceville RB Damon Heard Beaumont Central RB Chase Bertrand Port Neches-Groves FB Brenton Clark Vidor REC Zack Sonnier Little Cypress-Mauriceville REC Jayce Nelson Port Neches-Groves REC Amir Jalali Port Neches-Groves TE Gene Cross Beaumont Central T Greg Lunceford Port Neches-Groves T Abel Gonzalez Livingston G Cole Galloway Livingston G Gabe Langlois Port Neches-Groves C Joe Reed     Vidor UTIL Keyione  Blackman Beaumont Ozen K Samuel Lavador Beaumont Central 1st Team Defense Pos.     Name     School DE Ryan McClain Livingston DE Corbin Carr Nederland DT Ryan Davis Beaumont Central DT Arthur Phillips Beaumont Central ILB Blake Burman Livingston ILB D.J. Schexnider Port Neches-Groves OLB Shaquille Leday Beaumont Central OLB Elliot Brown Beaumont Central CB Xavier Zenn Beaumont Ozen CB Quinton Cantue Beaumont Central S Preston Haynes Beaumont Central S Zac Blanchard Little Cypress-Mauriceville

With Keyser comming in as a 6'9" Freshman and Roc only needing one additional recruit next year, I am hoping he is able to get one of the top JUCO big men. This current group would be very good with a T. Fairley or N. Beard type big man.

[quote name="geezer" post="922435" timestamp="1291078507"] I would have preferred to see the Big 12 go after TCU as a replacement for Nebraska or Colorado [/quote] Ditto. Kinda shocked. TCU to the Big East?? Just dont seam right. I was really hoping that TCU to the Big 12 and a strong push to get Arkansas back. North          South Kansas        Texas KState          A&M Mizzou          Tech ISU              Ark OU              TCU OSU            Baylor

[quote name="akifan94" post="922240" timestamp="1291064223"] I see us running the ball more next year with Miller. He is bigger than Doty and has a strong arm I am just not sure about his accuracy and instincts. [/quote] Miller is more of a running threat than Doty. Very smart kid (#1 in his class last I heard). He does not have the arm that Doty had, but few do, he can sling it though. I suspect we will see more designed QB Draws and some Spread Option, but PNG will still throw the ball regularly. [quote author=kicker link=topic=76703.msg922223#msg922223 date=1291063435] The one thing that i am excited to see is how little jimmy Salter will mature as a QB. Being only a Sophomore, he was forced into a situation that noone would ever want to be in. Yet, he showed tremendous poise and maturity for his age. The experience and adversity that he went through this season is priceless when it comes to experience. We know he will grow physicaly, but also know that he will grow mentally. The next few seasons will be fun to watch. He is going to be a good one, mark my words. ;) [/quote] I have heard about Salter for a couple of seasons now, but what I hear is that WOS is set bigtime at QB the next 4 years. Freshman kid next year may even push him some in 2012. Nice problem to have! ;)

[quote name="RHBoiler" post="921989" timestamp="1291049936"] Manvel puts some of its 3rd and 4th string players in with the score 56-21 midway through the 4th, resulting in a safety, [b]PNG having good field position from the ensuing kick, and converting that to a quick TD[/b]. That swung the momentum enough to make the game appear close. [/quote] Call up fatmaverick and see if you can get your hands on the video, then you will find out that PNG did not score on the next possesion after the Safety. We threw a pick!!! We scored later after we forced a fumble. Let's move on PNG fans...We had a great season...Our boys aren't perfect...They make mistakes just like the kids from Manvel did...They are 16, 17 & 18 years old...The only thing that bothers me is when I see a kid comit a stupid PF and stay on the field. Any coach worth a poop will take the kid out immediately to get his point across. At least for a few plays. Faircloth did this with Thompson Saturday night and he has done it with both DJ and Doty this season. Manvels coach did it a few times as well with some players. Now Willis' coach seemed to be egging it on!

[quote name="cooligan" post="922346" timestamp="1291070761"] This just In:   20-4a All District 1st Team Offense:                     QB - PNG'S, RB's - PNG'S, OL - PNG'S, WR's - PNG'S                     MVP - PNG'S Defense for forcing the offense to score all                                 those points and making everybody look so good                               with the extra opportunities.                     Coach of the Nation goes to Faircloth                     [b]Did we leave anyone out?[/b]  ::) [/quote] Yes our kicker was awesome and the waterboys/girls were way faster than any other teams in the district!!! In all seriousness, it ain't hard to argue that the list is flawed! >My pick for MVP would have been T. Sonnier, because he actually led his team into the playoffs! >I also would have picked Neuman as COY. Another great job for what they were delt. Explain to me again what it was that Crouch did to deserve this?? Maybe a nice guy and all, and maybe LCM had a better year, but they didn't make the playoffs...Again! If having a better year where the criteria, then Livingstons coach actually made better progress from last season than Crouch since they made the playoffs going 7-3 after 4-6 last year (identical to LCM). >And anyone that argues that Nelson is not 1st team WR is out of their mind. This is not me being a Homer. I would have said the same thing had LCM's Sonnier not made the 1st team. >I also have issues with Langois not 1st team OL. >On the flip side I am suprised that Thompson and Easly made 1st team. As bad as our Defense was this year I really only expected DJ to make it. He had MVP numbers, but I got no problem with Alfred as D-MVP. He was deserving as well and on a better overall defense (except that one night in November  ;D). Just calling it like I see it.

The Freshman was Coy. He moved up for the playoffs, but never actually saw the field.

[quote name="AggiesWeAreNot" post="921733" timestamp="1291001957"] [quote author=Versey Ledbetter link=topic=76698.msg921054#msg921054 date=1290919760] Really???  Aren't we past the race thing?  [/quote]  Are you serious?!  You must live in an all white town.  Move to beaumont and you will see Tthat the "race thing" is alive and well.  Now if you agree that blacks should receive preferential treatment in every facet of life then you will get along just fine with our black race mongers (carol thomas, paul brown, bo alfred, howard graham, oveal whitaker, terry williams, jessie haynes, etc) [/quote] For the record...This guy isn't from PNG! He appears to be from Beaumont.

[quote name="fatmaverick" post="921836" timestamp="1291035067"] I've been watching the Mavericks all year and this hasn't been a season of dirty football, late hits etc... We have kept our composure and played very well.  They are lead by one of the best Christian coaches you can find anywhere.  He has touched these kids life with simply being fair.  My son came to Manvel from another powerful 24-4A school and we felt at home immediatedly.  I'm proud of the Mavericks, the staff, the band, the spirit that's came alive around here.  But honestly we came to win a football game not a popularity contest.  PNG kids realized that this will not be an easy game and start wining to officials begging for calls etc... Just watch the film!  Mavericks showed up to win, not to be intimidated by the PNG players nor the mass following sitting in the stands.  Now quit complaining and come route for the Mavericks against LaMarque.  You are welcomed to wear purple!     [/quote] Again I ask have you "Watched the film?" ::) I love the fact that because our team is predominantly white, we are racist! ::) I would consider that a racial slur in itself!!!

UT by alot! We play no defense, they do. Well. UT 52 LU 36 HALFTIME UT 102 LU 64 FINAL

[quote name="GoDogs27" post="921688" timestamp="1290998615"] [quote author=NDNTime link=topic=76698.msg921611#msg921611 date=1290992979] [quote author=GoDogs27 link=topic=76698.msg921563#msg921563 date=1290988939] I swear PNG fans have on blinders. Any game I go to, I can find bad calls, no calls, 'dirty plays' etc.. One of the offensive lineman for PNG was playing dirty every play at the nederland game and never got called for it.. Its just football.. This is the reason i don't go to png games when they are in the playoffs.. png fans should be proud of where they got to considering how the season started.. Quit whining.. You're just making yourself and the entire PNG fan base confirm what so many of us already know... [/quote] Seeing as you are a bulldog fan and talking about how a lineman played at the PNG/Ned game, you might have had on a few blinders as well.  It is easy to have on blinders when you are watching your own team. Anyways, we are proud of the way our team played this year, coming back from such an adverse beginning to the season.  Looking forward to 2011. [/quote] You explained my point perfectly even though you don't even realize you did... You look for the other team to play dirty but you have selective vision. If PNG loses a close game, then the other team cheated, or they played dirty, or the refs were terrible. Its never that they got beat by a better team.. I'm not saying all PNG fans are like that. I have personal friends who support PNG and will admit when the team gets outplayed or outcoached.. But regardless.. You made my point.. [/quote] Go back over all of the posts in this thread and find one were an Indian fan said that the chippy play or anything other than the fact that Manvel was a better team is the reason PNG lost last night. You won't find it! We all admited right off the bat that they were a deeper more talented group. Also you will notice that many of the PNG faithful realized that our team did some stuff last night that we all would like not to see again. We took some shots as well. Both teams got chippy, just so happens Manvel got caught more.

It all starts up front. This is were PNG will have the biggest challenge in replacing. If you can believe it PNG may actually big bigger up front on offense with Nicotre (6'2 260) Reasons (6'4" 270) Stasinos (6'5" 250), not sure who will fill in the other two spots, but those three are big. The losses will be tuff because they were key leaders like Lunceford and Langois on the OL and Easley, Thompson and Schexneider on D. And anytime you have to replace a record setting QB like Doty, it's tough! Returning players *2010 Starters: 8 (3 Offense - 5 Defense) ** 2010 Significant PT: 6 (3 Offense - 3 Defense) WR *Nelson - WR **Lacour - OT *Nicotre - OG Reasons - C ?? - OG ?? - OT **Stasinos - HB **Hanks - WR ??                                                                      QB Miller - RB *Bertrand CB **Hollier - DE *Davis - DT ?? - DE **Grantham - CB ?? OLB *Louviere - MLB ?? - S/LB *Peveto - OLB **Segler                    S *Sperl - S *Romero