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There is one flaw with this view, in no way is the programs actions good or bad a reflection on AAW, he is a broadcaster not employed by the school. He isn't a coach or even a parent. Just like someone's siblings actions shouldn't reflect on that individual neither should the programs actions reflect on him. We all have a choice fans, myself, and AAW included, if we don't like what we are seeing then we can walk away and stop supporting the team. Now I am not asking or wanting that to happen in anyway but in no way do I feel that the programs actions, achievements or failures are any reflection on anyone outside of the program.

I am going to say this and then leave this subject alone. For at least the last 8 years, since I haven't worked evenings like I did before, you won't find many that have seen near as many Tiger football or basketball games as I have seen. While I was still working many nights I was still at as many as I could be. I am more in the middle on this. I can remember one of our football players a few years ago that got a personal foul in several football games for acts such as hitting a player in the helmet, and I am talking like a punch. I can remember yelling from the stands for him to be sat down. I can say I was dissappointed that it never happened. Maybe something was done that I didn't see but it didn't seem like it because it happened in several games. as far as the basketball team goes, I know we have had some players that were viewed as too arrogant by some or too mouthy, etc. I know we had one player that I noticed take a couple cheap shots himself in a playoff game several years ago. However with the exception of Jasper and LCM, I have thought that overall the last couple years have been a lot better overall. Now I know there were a couple other situations this year that were brought up but I didn't see them. I can't blame coaches or players for the situation last year in Jasper. I know words were exchanged and a fight ensued. I can't blame any of those kids for defending themselves or their teammates in that situation. This years event at LCM was a little different. The beginning of the altercation, on the court, was one of those things that happens from time to time in a game. Now the part that has me with somewhat mixed feelings is the teamsleaving the bench. Kind of hard to really blame Coaches for that when they were trying to break up the ones on the court, sure maybe a plan for someone to stay with players on the bench could be there but in that moment you are going to react and try to stop what's going on. I am not going to go into a blame for the one event because like was said that player paid his price and it's over. It's hard to blame those other kids on the bench for going to defend their teammates once they saw a crowd going out there. But that it what they are supposed to do. Now even in them leaving the bench, I only noticed the one player who was punished go out their and really do anything. The issues that most don't know are the relationships of these kids locally among each other online or knowing each other from summer leagues or whatever outside of these games. Some already have bad blood between them for whatever reason. You won't see that near as much when you play those teams out of our area. As far as basketball goes year in and year out we are one of the best teams in the area. These teams get tired of getting beat, get tired of our style of play, the kids go back and forth online, already have problems etc,...all leading to friction. Now the issue is how you handle that like was said you can only be pushed so far, my issue with that is that on the court you are in a "controlled" environment. Sure something can happen and you react. I was proud of the way my Tigers reacted after the LCM event this year. Whenever their was a tense moment of the court, I saw the player walk away. I also saw teammates come to each other and help ease the tension. That's the way we are going to have to do things now for sure. We don't have room for error now. I don't know what the penalty is for a probation violation but I know we don't want to find out.

You would have to ask those who have followed closer than I have, I know Whiitted has had some real good games lately.

It was announced as an e6 but didn't agree with that either.

You just mentioned the biggest key to the game and our low number of hits. Not only did Dallas pitch a great game he did so by putting himself ahead in the count all night. Tough for a hitter being in a hole with a pitcher that throws the ball like that.

With the two aces on the mounds, these two teams are pretty evenly matched. Dallas dominated the Tigers tonight and Sundgren gave up a few more hits but got out of every threat until the error. I would like to see that 3 game series and see what happens when each team has someone else on the mound.

I noticed the camera in the dugout several times but Honestly only when wos was at bat. Great game and hats off to both pitchers. Hard part for the Tigers is the fact that the costly error in both wos games came at the second base position. that's just tough on a player,. I hope we meet again in a best of 3 regional final!!!

I wouldn't suggest either school even approach the topic of altercations....neither one has much room to talk in that area.

Or maybe we will win by no not going to go there this is baseball not either one of the other sports!

Yes...they would be co district champs but I was talking about the disappointment of not being outright champs.

Sorry but I hope he gets a little Birthday dissapointment!!!

After losing a game in Orange that you had to feel the Tigers should have won after getting a good early lead, I hope the Tigers can take this one. I plan on being there to see this rematch.

Understatement.........

I read an update from the enterprise it says basketball and each were given a public reprimand.

Both teams now on a 2 yr probation.

In saying that I just looked at the UIl agenda and there were 4 rules issues to be discussed 2 coaches who were ejected while on probation, on player eligibility issue and Consideration of penalties concerning and it only lists us and LCM.

I think this is more of a looking into all the situations statewide since there was supposed to 19 bench clearing fights in basketball alone this season. I wouldn't expect more penalties really in our instance as like was said it was handled pretty swiftly and severely at least for one participant. Now I have no idea what actions were taken for the others. I know when I first heard of the dozen or so I could find stories on about 5 of them.

He was found guilty of one so serving a life sentence but just yesterday I was commenting on how many of these idiots are awful "grave" when it comes to murdering someone but then they show their true cowardice when it comes time to pay the price.

I know during the incident during the season it was stated that the UIl does not rule on player suspensions from these situations. I was told at the time of our situation that the UIl was looking into several such situations at the time. I believe at that point the number of fights was laround a dozen. I heard about this meeting a week ago and I am pretty sure the number of incidents that are going to review is 19. I know this article states that more punishments could handed down. I am not really expecting that but wandering if this would be just at the team level or now at the individual level. Here's the article from the enterprise: [Hidden Content]

Just saw trying to reschedule for tomorrow. Saw it on twitter,

This game is in Silsbee isn't it? I thought we played the first round in BC. I know we played the last two on the road and the next two are scheduled on the road. 5 games in a row on the road in district would be quite unusual.

I haven't looked st the brackets but if they match the basketball brackets which I think they do, it will only be possible for 2 teams from a district to reach the 4th round. Now I do have a question from Friday night and this went both ways, no way is it any excuse for an outcome, but was at least the outside of the strike zone as inconsistent as it seemed to me? I was kind of at a tough angle.

Definitely! No excuses it was just baseball unfortunately it was the Tigers who made the big mistakes and the Mustangs who capitalized. I liked the atmosphere and the way both teams played the game.

Yes second should have been covered for the easy out. I still thought hecould have gone to first, but it's hard to change that quickly. It looked like he wanted to after he saw no one was at 2nd but second guessed getting it there. I thought he still had time but no way to know now. ( had to edit that one, was horrible to read, I was in too big of a hurry.)

Tigers made several mistakes tonight misplayed ball in left field and then his backup just holding the ball while the runners advanced. Missing first base on what would have been a double putting the tieing run at second. But the biggest two were what cost us tonight a booted grounder to second that gave up the tieing run and a ground ball th short with plenty of time to get the force out at second or first but no one covered second leading to indecision and no out! Then the timely hit to the wall by Miller for the game winning runs.