Mean Machine

Can't disagree with 1-9, United and HJ can be argued either way I would imagine. BC played Silsbee closer than any of the other district losers against Silsbee so far, and they have a nicer over all record, would have to say they rank higher than Lumberton based on that. I have not seen Buna play personally this year, but know they are a solid squad as well, based on conversations I've had with people that have seen them play. PNG also would place above Lumberton, imo.
Most teams on the list you created have rosters with lots of returning players on it, and therefore player continuity working for them , Lumberton has a roster with more freshmen and sophomores than any of the other teams that have to play main minutes, I believe. I believe Buna is playing a freshman guard a lot of minutes as well. Gonna take your lumps against upper classmen comprised teams, such as Orangefield, PNG, Woodville, etc.
Nice topic to stir up different opinions though....

Hightower is TABC#1 in 5A.  Dekaney is down a little this year, but they will be pretty tough.  Morton Ranch is also having a good year.  Tournament should be strong on both the boys and girls sides

I also saw on the tournament schedule my daughter showed me, United will be at the Barbers Hill Tourney over the Christmas break. The list of teams looked to be mostly solid 6A programs as well as some good 5A teams, including Fort Bend Hightower, who was listed as 20-0 and the (#2) 5A school in the state, on Max Preps.

VYPE’s Playoff Preview Madness

Agreed, would be quite a One Day Holiday Classic Tournament Lineup for this year, lol. Think there would be a nice level of "saltiness" in all the games, building up to the HJ vs United Primetime Game.

Thanks for that info and the coverage of the area, sir. All the girls in the area from #1 ranked to #200 ranked work very hard glad to see them get some acknowledgement.

What's impressive to me is Julia was a machine on the boards tonight with 17, 8 of which was offensive. This is how they will win games.

Great game played by both teams.  Chireno - very good team for any level.
Heaven Scott - 24 pts
Asia Mitchell - 23 pts
 
Chireno:  Durrett - 18 pts and Johnson - 11 pts

Nothing, we started turning the ball over, and got back on our heals.

Yeah I had a lot of those kids in daycare

I agree for the most part.  Unless they have a total collapse, I'm not worried about them getting a playoff spot.  The district title should be theirs to as long as they continue to do what they are doing, winning.  It's just more about being recognized for the work that the coaching staff and young ladies have put in.  Hey, if they don't get ranked all season but make it to San Antonio, I'd take that in a heart beat.

The late Al Davis said  "Just Win Baby"... being ranked would be nice reading material and recognition for the work the team has put in thus far. What counts and matters is  sufficient wins to get you a district title and a playoff spot. Texas Association of Basketball Coaches(TABC) votes and until they feel we warrant being ranked in the top 25 it is what it is....

Faith Fregia 26 points 
Kylie Elkins 24 points 6 3’s

Jasper 81 liberty 39 final
jasper
Asia Mitchell 34
Kinley Shumake 16
Heaven Scott 15

4th 
Lumberton 70
WOS 39
Solid team effort by the Lady Raders. Tough defense and balance scoring.
WOS ladies played very hard, but shots weren"t falling for them. Good effort from them
 

I'm sitting by some NS fans and one lady keep yelling what happened in football.  I told her this not football....lol

On paper yes they should. This game looks to have been played AT Tarkington. A lot of times, the energy generated at a HOME gym has a positive effect on the home team, while impeding the visiting team. It also seems to affect less experienced refereeing crews are routinely biased by this influence depending on which side of the ball you're on (lol). Familiarity of opponent can be a factor as well. 
Would really need to see the box scores to know did normal players play normal minutes, was there foul trouble, did someone have to sit out, etc.? If I remember correctly.
I see Tarkington lost to VYPE current Top Ten team Hamshire Fannett 47-42 at H-F, VYPE current Top Ten school Bridge City 38-32 and 48-42, so what that means empirically to me is they play hard and must have competed in these games. So even though Woodville is a really good team with superior talent, every game against an unranked opponent isn't going to be a 100-29 cakewalk. To me a 13 point win on the road is a strong enough statement by itself.
 

I agree.  these pool play tournaments all most always have one or two jv teams in them now to get the 6 games.  I would just rather have 3 or 4 good games out of a bracket - winners advance so win and play good teams.  6 in 3 days is just too much IMO.  I also need to adjust my thinking a little for those tournaments and bring along a few jv players.  I just focuseon my rotation and getting those varsity girls better each game. - 

We had a scheduled 3:30 game, games were scheduled 1 hr and 15 minutes apart throughout the day. The game started at 3:00. So first off a normal varsity game typically last 1 hr and 30 to 45 minutes, so in order to run 30 minutes ahead the refs are barely calling fouls. I noticed really quick that if a defender just blew up the ball handler no foul was called so I started yelling that to the girls. They finally listened to the annoying obnoxious dad in the stands and we got 6 steals in a row, that should have been 6 fouls, lol. Then the girls reverted back to their normal defense. The only “fouls” these refs would call was if a shot was put up and a block was attempted and ball was missed (no contact necessary and went both ways). One particular play I almost got thrown out of the gym for was when it looked like Jimmy “Superfly” Snuka came off of the top turn buckle with a flying cross body check and not one whistle between three refs. All that i got was a hand from a ref and then she turned around and told me to shut up!

Again, girls game will degenerate into football if refs don't call hand checking, body out of bounds, etc.Lack of basketball skill favors "physical" play and lack of foul calls gives a more "physically talented" roster an advantage that I do not know is fair. If it is allowed it is not a foul and one has to deal with it. Girls game has a certain amount of physicality to it sense it is below the rim basketball, but it has to remain basketball at some point, and you can not have that if "physicality" passes as no foul called basketball. Ok, my rant, is over, and I did it with out getting yelled at in a gym, LOL.

Again, girls game will degenerate into football if refs don't call hand checking, body out of bounds, etc.Lack of basketball skill favors "physical" play and lack of foul calls gives a more "physically talented" roster an advantage that I do not know is fair. If it is allowed it is not a foul and one has to deal with it. Girls game has a certain amount of physicality to it sense it is below the rim basketball, but it has to remain basketball at some point, and you can not have that if "physicality" passes as no foul called basketball. Ok, my rant, is over, and I did it with out getting yelled at in a gym, LOL.

Again, girls game will degenerate into football if refs don't call hand checking, body out of bounds, etc.Lack of basketball skill favors "physical" play and lack of foul calls gives a more "physically talented" roster an advantage that I do not know is fair. If it is allowed it is not a foul and one has to deal with it. Girls game has a certain amount of physicality to it sense it is below the rim basketball, but it has to remain basketball at some point, and you can not have that if "physicality" passes as no foul called basketball. Ok, my rant, is over, and I did it with out getting yelled at in a gym, LOL.

Just getting home from work Xmas party seeing this. Sounds like a typical Livingston home game to me, lol. Last year,watched my daughter have to get hammered and get two flagrant fouls called when they were up by 10 with less than a minute left, after a whole game of "let them play physical".. When the environment gets that hostile during the course of the game, I'm sorry, that's on the refs, and u will never get me to change my mind on this subject. Check it the first 3 minutes of the game, and that stuff vanishes. Player safety trumps irate fans anyday imo.

Just getting home from work Xmas party seeing this. Sounds like a typical Livingston home game to me, lol. Last year,watched my daughter have to get hammered and get two flagrant fouls called when they were up by 10 with less than a minute left, after a whole game of "let them play physical".. When the environment gets that hostile during the course of the game, I'm sorry, that's on the refs, and u will never get me to change my mind on this subject. Check it the first 3 minutes of the game, and that stuff vanishes. Player safety trumps irate fans anyday imo.

Let me just say this too. I hate tournament refs. We didn’t lose because of the refs, but it sure does not favor the Lady Indians game play.