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That's how it is every year -- PNG will seem more flashy because of an explosive offense, while Nederland players (individually) fly under the radar. Then the game is played and we see that Nederland's players are just as good, if not better. I don't know if there are any soccer fans in the house, but if I had to compare Nederland and PNG to World Cup teams, Nederland is Germany -- They aren't necessarily flashy, but play consistent system-based football and will be extremely disciplined. PNG is Brazil. Flashy, competitive, and dangerous, but vulnerable on defense. All of that aside, Nederland looks like they have crazy good players. I'm not sure why anyone would say that we have the better players overall. We certainly have the best player, but PNG is going to have play its best game.

Thanks for the correction. I'm going off what someone told me, and I heard it years and years ago.

Nederland has receivers that are going to give PNG fits. And their passing game is going to be the best we've faced. It's going to be a good game.

Having a bunch of starters come back after an iconic QB graduates doesn't always work out. In 2000 at Dustin Long left, I'm pretty sure PNG started the season ranked #1 -- Someone can correct me because I'm not 100% confident, but the team returned a lot of guys from the 1999 team, minus Dustin Long. Then we went 5-5. Not to say we'll do that next year. I think the future is very bright at PNG. We will definitely miss Roschon, but who wouldn't? He is a ridiculous athlete who has defined the last three years of football at PNG, and we'll be comparing players to him for the next 20 years and onward.

That's silly

sorry to hear that -- Pirates got the short end of a lot of sticks this season. Hope they can pull out a win next week.

I don't remember that row -- I've sat on the visitors' side several times throughout my school years, but I don't remember that. Is there only one exit on the visitors' side? That doesn't sound safe.

haha I'm out of likes

Yeah, that would have sucked. The future is bright at BH with a young and talented QB

So will Nederland be bringing their own mud to spread on the sidelines, or as the host do we have to provide it for them?

Dayton scored 14 on us in about 20 seconds at the end this season. The game was too close to put in the reserves, even with a 17-point lead.

That's tough. Sorry for him. Nederland always has the next man up though. They'll be ready.

Unless I missed a game, PNG has played BH 4 times, and is 4-0, pending 5-0 tonight. 2009: (first game of season): 21-20 2009 (first round of playoffs): 21-7 2010 (first round of playoffs): 21-7 2016 (first round of playoffs): 31-26

No -- Manvel knocked us out. In 2010 we made it to the 3rd round. We beat Barber's Hill 21-7 in the first round in 2010.

I need someone to verify that no BH coaches have their iPhones in the press box, since it is apparently so important.

Feel free to PM me -- I welcome the discussion and the disagreement. I don't want to get any further off the BH-PNG game than I already have. Or, better yet, we can start a new thread that I will join, because this is a sports-related subject and it is relevant to SETX sports.

Says the guy who spent last week's games posting repeatedly about poop. You have no room to talk about stealing minutes from anyone's life.

The reason a student can lead a prayer but faculty cannot, while faculty can teach evolution, is that prayer led by faculty (or, for example, by a representative from local religion) violates the Establishment Clause of the Constitution, and a member of faculty teaching evolution does not. Evolution is not a religion, so teaching or promoting it does not result in the Government, through public schools, "establishing," or promoting one religion over another. I think it is a good thing. One of the essential protections afforded us by the Constitution is the separation of Church and State. Public schools are a part of the "State," so they are bound by limitations imposed on the State by the Constitution. It can seem like a small thing, because the vast majority of people in SETX are some variation on Christian, so the vast majority of people will not be offended if there is a prayer before a game, whether that prayer is offered by a student or by a member of faculty, or even by a representative from one of the local churches. But, here is a thought experiment: What if the majority of people in SETX suddenly joined a non-Christian religion, such that the majority of the school board, the local city councils, and the majority of the local churches espoused that religion? Would you want the kids who remain Christian and their families, to be forced to spend taxpayer dollars so that the local schools could promote that religion? Would you want your taxpayer dollars to go to paying faculty to pray to this non-Christian god at school functions? I think most people on this board would feel that this was something of an injustice, that it would be a violation of the 1st Amendment and the Free Exercise Clause of the Constitution. You would be right, and the Constitution would be on your side. The Constitution protects your children from exactly this kind of violation. So as a Christian (I attend church every week, pay a tithe, and have served as a volunteer missionary abroad), I am grateful for the Constitution's guarantees that all of our freedoms of religion (including Christian, non-Christians, and atheists) will be protected from the government preferring one religion or religious group over another. Just like freedom of speech, the 2nd amendment, or anything else in the Bill of Rights, freedom of religion is absolutely essential, and freedom of religion is incomplete without the separation of Church and State.

Can ya'll imagine if Jeremiah was catching passes from Roschon? The offense would be terrifying.

Defense has only allowed 7 points so far. And they just made up for it with the recovery for a TD.

What does it say about Nederland fans who respond defensively to objective statistics about their team? You'd think I had burned down the last remaining blade of grass on the Nederland field, the way Nederland fans have had their feelings hurt over what is essentially a straightforward analysis. Further, Nederland fans are the ones who keep bringing up PNG -- I was just commenting on the Vidor-Nederland game. Further, why is "spewing stats" such a problem? Doesn't it make the conversation more interesting when someone supports a position with something other than veiled threats, capital letters, and exclamation marks (which are all too common on this site)?

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I'm similar -- If I'm in town during the playoffs and Nederland is still alive in the playoffs, I try to be at the games cheering for them.

A Pirate ship runs over a dog pound. Team managers have to spend the weekend cleaning fur off the Black Pearl. Bulldogs hold a 21-sprinkler salute at their field.

I think my original post has been misunderstood. I never said or implied that Nederland has been lucky. I just looked at what they have done against the opponents they have faced, and compared it to what Vidor has done. Nederland is a good team. No one has argued otherwise.