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If I could pick BH to win on penetrations I would. That being said, give me the Eagles by 1 point. Ned has more experience in recent years than BH does playing these crucial late season games but BH is still the better team on paper. Paper doesn’t matter right now though. Coach Abseck needs to show his chops in this one because I think coach Barrow will definitely have something for him. Those long rides out to Mid-County are never easy and BH didn’t play well in their first one. Let’s see how they play with even more on the line this week.

I was trying to tell everybody at the beginning of the season that the offense was going to be legit even with Branch and Dunn gone. It’s amazing how that came to fruition once we stopped playing Carthage, Manvel and PAM. Offense did look great last night but I don’t want to put too much on beating a TC team I don’t think is very good. TC is not very good at the line of scrimmage when compared to what we will see in the playoffs. For instance, look at some of that Montgomery vs Consol. game last night.

That’s why I was asking you what film you watched to come to that conclusion? TC didn’t look good on either side of the ball against Nederland. Ned’s offense was just awful that night.

Fun fact: TC had only given up 44 points though six games before Crosby scored 57 on them tonight. Could’ve and really should’ve scored 70+ tonight but had one td called back for an illegal shift that had no impact on Kirkwood beating the double coverage and another for a holding on a screen pass BEHIND the play, smh.

Not sure what some of y’all were basing the close game comments on but to reiterate your question from the prediction thread; no I never expect TC to be able to compete with Crosby. I always say it but there’s a difference between making picks off of emotions vs actual film. P.S. - Please go take out Nederland next week so we can coast to a DC. BH will have everybody in Crosby pulling for them next week. Hopefully y’all don’t collapse or have discipline issues🙏🏾

It’s always tough to come play on The Reservation but with PNG giving up 40 to a pretty bad KP offense I like our chances a little more. Crosby will come in next week looking for help from BH to solidify at least a share of the district championship with a Cougar win at PNG and a BH win over Nederland.

Crosby came in averaging 57ppg in district play and we get 57 on what we were told was a good defense.

If Crosby could cover that little play-action roll out that Carthage killed us with TC might not score the rest of the night. Lol, so much for the “close game” and “good defense” crowd. Crosby probably has close to 300 yards on offense already

I know they did, we had to face them the very next week. Point is y’all scored 0 and Crosby scored 37 on them the week after. Meaning that I don’t think TC holding Ned to 0 offensive points last week will have any bearing on how they match up with Crosby like some of the other posters do.

Pre-game write up:

New Caney is pretty good this year. The problem is that they have Longview, Denton Ryan, Highland Park and College Station, who have all won titles in the last five years, in their region.

Crazy what you find out if you actually watch film. Surratt had an interview with the local paper and said the same thing. Now per the people not from Carthage they were missing 11 starters. Lol, after we smoke TC it will be 15 starter were missing from Carthage and the worst Manvel team ever that we got to play.

Well I guess Ned should be 4-2 since the WOS game got called early? We beat KP and Dayton by 85 combined points, let's see if anybody else can do similar numbers against them? Nobody on Manvel's schedule besides Hightower has held them to only 28 offensive points this year, nobody outside of Dickinson has scored 21 or more on them. They would probably beat every other team in this district by 28+ right now. Nobody on Carthage's schedule has held them to 20 offensive points and nobody has scored 24 on them besides Crosby. Nobody on PAM's schedule has held them to 20 offensive points and nobody has scored 40+ on them besides Crosby. TC opponents combined record is 13-23, it was 8-22 before they played Nederland which is the only team over .500 they've beaten. That's more of an indictment on Ned versus how good TC is. TC hasn't scored over 35 points on anybody not named Santa Fe or KP and is averaging 39ppg in district play so far, Crosby has dropped 40+ their last four outings and is averaging 57ppg through district play so far. IDK what you've seen either, but obviously it isn't Crosby playing.

TC ran 58 plays, got 204 total yards and scored 14 points, PNG and Silsbee scored twice as much on Nederland. TC plays offense like that against teams that can score they might lose three out of four down the stretch. Ned needed to come back in both of those games too, luck just caught up with them against TC. All TC showed against Ned is that if they can't run the ball consistently then their QB, who went 10-25, can't beat you. Ned struggles to defend the pass and Dayton is the most prolific passing team in the district, Broncos have the leading QB and receiver. I think they're going to score around 35 points on Nederland and coach Ware is probably going to model a lot of what TC did on defense. After seeing Ned struggle to move the ball on 0-6 Santa Fe and then getting shut out by TC, unless Dayton turns if over it just doesn't fee like they'll score enough points to win this one.

I love it. I have all kind of material I’ve been saving in case they got good when they hired their first state championship coach 12 years ago. I almost feel bad they have to pay all that money just to watch them get out-coached.

I didn’t make any excuses for the loss. I said they beat us straight up. YOU brought up “if Carthage this” to help try to make your point Crosby isn’t as good, not me. I just responded in kind. You literally don’t have a single data point to make your argument beside BH played Crosby close which is why I say leave the emotion out. Not a single one. Yes BH would’ve still lost with those kids, they weren’t winning WITH them.

Listen to what you’re saying though? It was a fluke because Crosby won two OT during that run, that makes us 3-0 in our last three OT games. Sounds more like a pattern to me. Two years in a row we score the most points Huntsville gives up all season, it wasn’t a fluke we were in position for our all-state kicker to close the show. Crosby dropped 62 on LH, they needed an onside kick and a late Dunn fumble while we’re trying to go up 3tds to even get to the OT. Aledo had to score 24 points in the 4th quarter of the regional final against Lovejoy to come back and win by 4. They also didn’t have to play 4 of the top 7 teams in the first five rounds to get there, so no they didn’t get there like us. They beat 15-1 FB Marshall worse the first time they played them though. Like they say, luck happens when preparation meets opportunity. Guess we’ll see how much of a fluke this year is?

What I gather is that it was a fluke because we hadn’t won the region in six years? Even though we’re winning by wider margins than last year it’s only because PAM, Dayton, BH and KP aren’t as good as last year. Even though Myles was hobbled he should’ve looked great against Carthage in his first career start. I think he thinks we’re worse than last year because Manvel beat the finals team by twice as much, but this year’s Manvel team isn’t as good?(which would make sense why they beat us by less and may finish 3rd) Never mind the fact that we're a td better in point differential against a tougher schedule vs where we were at this time last year.

If you talk about the o-line from Carthage then you have to talk about Myles limping around and us having to rotate in a backup, who’s not even the backup now, the entire second half. Still they needed a kick return late to win by a fg. They “snuck” by because they have 8 state championships and know how to win those kind of games. Great game by them, they beat us straight up. They played a cover three defense against Crosby that I had never really seen played on the high school level. Last year in the opener we played 6A George Ranch with a healthy Dunn and Branch and lost by 7. Manvel beat Crosby by 33 points last year and did have a better team than they do now which exactly why we had a chance to beat them this year. While we’re about to go into the half up 10-7 we roll than snap back and then kick it into the back of our lineman and it bounces right into a Manvel player’s hands and he returns it and we go into the half down 14-7. I have never seen Crosby do that. Manvel’s run game is sick, we held up very well against them all night outside of one 75 yard run Seymour had. Great night from the defense holding them to 28 points, they just beat Angleton 49-10 last week. Angleton only lost by 2 points to FB Hightower the week before. On the back end we miss three WIDE open td passes that game, and I’ll move on from that. Against PAM we give up a td on the opening kick but the defense only gave up 20 that night. Third game last year Montgomery scored 52 on us and they were not as good as the PAM team we lined up against this year, and would probably lose to them by double digits this year. Think about it, at this time last year we had 0 impressive wins? You kind of cross-thread your argument when you say Crosby isn’t as good as last year but neither is anybody else🤔 You can say we’re not as good but think about what you would’ve said if I told you we were going to play for a state title at this time last year? Lol, we were “average” all the way until the third round last year. Your reasoning is that you think the 5 great games Crosby played to get to the finals last year were fluke but the BH game this year wasn’t?

I remember y’all getting shut out 49-0 last year by FB Marshall and Crosby dropping 37 and beating them 9 points the very next week. That’s was only six games ago.

The way the region is looking this year I think there’s a good chance Crosby is a 1st place district finish and third round win against FB Marshall away from playing for another state championship. This time last year we were still trying to figure out personnel, we’re not this year. If you take all the emotion out of it you would say Crosby looks better this year though six games than they did last year. Larger point differential, defense is giving up 2.5ppg more but offense is scoring 8.3ppg more and for what it’s worth Maxpreps said we’ve done it against a tougher strength of schedule to date. Manvel dropped 53 and Montgomery dropped 52 on us the last two games before district play last year but it helped us figure out the defensive adjustments we needed to make moving forward. BH was that high scoring team this year. To answer your question though; I think if Crosby keeps improving this game that they shouldn’t have much trouble dispatching a team like TC.

So Santa Fe’s defense is good too? They held Ned to 7 first half points? The BH game was a fluke, you can see from the rest of the scores on our schedule compared to y’all’s against common opponents. Just like Ned beating Crosby last year in the season finale, it’s one outlier against a pretty consistent body of work. IDK what film you watched but I just watched the cut-ups from the Nederland game and TC does not have a good d-line. Ned did nothing from the rb position when they could’ve killed them with the stretch play, Jones will. QB missed or didn’t see wide open receivers and some of the passes he did make were some simple check down type routes when he had receivers in position to make bigger plays. The corners are good but they play man coverage so their backs are always turned. Some many times that game if Ned’s QB would’ve made a quicker decision he had 10’s of yards of running room, Myles will get that. TC doesn’t have a coach like Carthage or personnel like Manvel and is playing against a better offense than both of them did so I doubt they’ll hold us to similar numbers as those two. Think what you would be saying about PAM’s defense right now had they not played Crosby, they would only be giving up 8.4ppg in their other contest.

Nederland had only scored 17 points on Santa Fe after three quarters, only had 7 at the half. Dayton and South Houston beat Santa Fe worse than y’all did. I wouldn’t really use their offense as a measuring stick for TC’s defense. Watching that game Josh Maczyk could’ve beaten TC by himself. Ned and Crosby’s offensive personnel are night and day.

Lol, you remember they said the same thing last year about Texas High? Came in 11-0 and only giving up 13ppg, then Crosby dropped 62 on them. Those defensive numbers have a lot to do with the offenses you play. Last year we went to TC and were up 41-0 at halftime and played subs the rest of the game which made the 41-6 score look closer than the game actually was, and that was with a team averaging 38ppg through their first three district games. This year’s team is averaging 58ppg over that same stretch.

FB Marshall could play Alief Taylor, FB Ridge Point, Dawson, Shadow Creek, George Ranch, etc. With an enrollment of only like 1,300 I think coach Williams chooses to play a soft schedule in hopes of keep his guys healthy for the playoffs. Most starters only play two quarters during the regular season. He really ain't looking for that kind of smoke in non-district play though.