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Transferring is a common thing among high school athletes.

If I was a Silsbee fan, I'd be nervpus as hell with bullet giving out advice like above

HF 2015 running older players off the court right now at Wellness Center. Got about 5 HF players ...can't wait. For 2011 HJ

If BC can turn it around..........surley.......

[quote name="Bobcat05" post="762856" timestamp="1266620824"] Yates wouldn't have even agreed to play Memorial. [/quote]yEAH, thats like Orangefield asking Yates to play a warm-up game :D

[quote name="SHSTIGER" post="762842" timestamp="1266617920"] [quote author=BLUEDOVE3 link=topic=65861.msg762524#msg762524 date=1266583555] Okay, which one is it? You say HF has less talent than the other schools, but the girl's program is successful. The boy's program is not successful in the major sports. So where does the AD take credit or blame? [/quote] I don't think he should take too much credit or blame for their success or lack of success. It's much easier for a school to compete in sports against bigger schools in sports that don't require a whole lot of participation and depth, particulary when those sports are the ones that have the most tradition and emphasis placed upon them. In sports where the bigger school has as much tradition and emphasis placed upon them, schools like H-F will struggle to compete consistently. imo [/quote]But this seems to be the problem. He's being discredited for football or lack of participation among the students in football. My point is this: It's easy to blame and look at the top guy when you're losing.

[quote name="SFA85" post="762785" timestamp="1266610496"] To me, H-F hasn't been good since the days of Malveaux, George, and Simien..... And on that note, how many kids are being lost to H-J since Lawhon Rd. is the dividing line?  Also, how many people retire to H-F vs. young families reside there? [/quote]You mean it's that many kids living off Lawhon going to HJ? No wonder they've been winning out there.

[quote name="tigersvoice" post="762777" timestamp="1266609651"] [quote author=BLUEDOVE3 link=topic=65861.msg762775#msg762775 date=1266609315] Boutte in PA would be a good fit ;) [/quote] Nice try, Quixote.  Keep dreaming that impossible dream. [/quote] ;D :D

Boutte in PA would be a good fit ;)

[quote name="bullets13" post="762736" timestamp="1266606150"] [quote author=BLUEDOVE3 link=topic=66245.msg762665#msg762665 date=1266600386] [quote author=AggiesAreWe link=topic=66245.msg762621#msg762621 date=1266595948] Silsbee goes 8-9 deep. ;) [/quote]I give props where due; Silsbee is a very good 3a team. [/quote] Silsbee would be a very good 4A team.  Silsbee is a GREAT 3A team. [/quote]I stand corrected ;)

[quote name="horndawg" post="762741" timestamp="1266606551"] Now having said that, I think Richards is a dang good basketball coach, and I think he, with a little time, can build that program back up.  Remember, coaching can get you to a point, athletes carry you the rest of the way. [/quote]I don't know Richrads that well but my inner thoughts says he knows more than he appears to knows. I get the feeling he is waiting......

[quote name="horndawg" post="762699" timestamp="1266603602"] [quote author=BLUEDOVE3 link=topic=65861.msg762666#msg762666 date=1266600445] [quote author=horndawg link=topic=65861.msg762624#msg762624 date=1266596219] [quote author=BLUEDOVE3 link=topic=65861.msg762618#msg762618 date=1266595740] [quote author=alice link=topic=65861.msg762610#msg762610 date=1266594734] From what I have seen, there has been stability in the girls sports in coaching, The  volleyball coach and many key parts of the girls program have been a constant and have respect within the community. The boys program is a different matter, not much positive said in the community about the AD / head football coach and many of the others involved in the boys programs, by the parents or kids. It appears this has caused several kids to not compete in all sports which is necessary for a school the size of H-F to be competitive. I hope eveything works out for HF because the program has produced many fine athletes such as Spencer George and Flip Johnson as well as Les Koenning. [/quote]Again, we keep saying how good the girl's program is but you had the same AD. The boys were losing BEFORE the new and current AD was hired. I'm just trying to see where the problem may really lie. [/quote] when Jeff Keener left. He had a great basketball program (mind you, he had some very good athletes) and when he left it seemed like the success of HF basketball left with him. [/quote]Was Keener a basketball guy? [/quote] Does a bear s**t in the woods? Is the sky blue, the grass green? See what I'm getting at? [/quote]yeah, I feel the blood in my veins warming up for the second coming! :D

[quote name="horndawg" post="762624" timestamp="1266596219"] [quote author=BLUEDOVE3 link=topic=65861.msg762618#msg762618 date=1266595740] [quote author=alice link=topic=65861.msg762610#msg762610 date=1266594734] From what I have seen, there has been stability in the girls sports in coaching, The  volleyball coach and many key parts of the girls program have been a constant and have respect within the community. The boys program is a different matter, not much positive said in the community about the AD / head football coach and many of the others involved in the boys programs, by the parents or kids. It appears this has caused several kids to not compete in all sports which is necessary for a school the size of H-F to be competitive. I hope eveything works out for HF because the program has produced many fine athletes such as Spencer George and Flip Johnson as well as Les Koenning. [/quote]Again, we keep saying how good the girl's program is but you had the same AD. The boys were losing BEFORE the new and current AD was hired. I'm just trying to see where the problem may really lie. [/quote] when Jeff Keener left. He had a great basketball program (mind you, he had some very good athletes) and when he left it seemed like the success of HF basketball left with him. [/quote]Was Keener a basketball guy?

[quote name="AggiesAreWe" post="762621" timestamp="1266595948"] Silsbee goes 8-9 deep. ;) [/quote]I give props where due; Silsbee is a very good 3a team.

I think HF has more problems than just the AD.

[quote name="EagleAG03" post="762575" timestamp="1266591308"] Will rudder run Silsbee out of the gym?  Not sure, but being at Livingston the last couple of years I completely understand the superiority complex people from SE Texas have towards all things SE Texas, and your assumptions that Rudder can't play and that Silsbee will run all over Rudder. I have seen Rudder play and they are going to run, run, run.  They sub in 5 at a time on a regular rotation. 5 in - 5 out.  They press you relentlessly and they shoot a ton of threes.  They will be a formidable foe for Sislbee and it should be a good game. [/quote]Oh-h, the old "wear them down strategy!" That could pose problems for teams without a deep bench.

[quote name="alice" post="762610" timestamp="1266594734"] From what I have seen, there has been stability in the girls sports in coaching, The  volleyball coach and many key parts of the girls program have been a constant and have respect within the community. The boys program is a different matter, not much positive said in the community about the AD / head football coach and many of the others involved in the boys programs, by the parents or kids. It appears this has caused several kids to not compete in all sports which is necessary for a school the size of H-F to be competitive. I hope eveything works out for HF because the program has produced many fine athletes such as Spencer George and Flip Johnson as well as Les Koenning. [/quote]Again, we keep saying how good the girl's program is but you had the same AD. The boys were losing BEFORE the new and current AD was hired. I'm just trying to see where the problem may really lie.

[quote name="no-look" post="762537" timestamp="1266587371"] Seen Rudder play....they are quick and can shoot lights out. Their press is relentless.....they are going 4A next year. [/quote]I don't know who Rudder is but if they are seeking to play Silsbee, I was guessing that ain't no little dogs in the pack.

[quote name="WJBooger" post="762561" timestamp="1266590012"] [quote author=Rizon link=topic=65861.msg762139#msg762139 date=1266535807] Well if this is in all true, any news on who they might be looking at? [/quote] I honestly believe that "athletic ability" is a little down right now at HF. I agree with someone earlier who said HF looked overmatched in both size and speed. When you are inferior athletically, our past season is what you get. (in football) I am also aware that there were a lot of injuries and a lot of kids who chose not to play. Why, I don't know. Only they can answer that. The truth of the matter is, most high school athletic departments are measured by what the boys do. The girls have been contenders in all three major sports for the last three years while only the baseball team has competed in boys. Right now, our middle school has some athletes. If they all choose to stay at HF, we should be competitive for the next three or four years and the new AD will be the hero. If they choose to leave or not play, we can expect more of the same and it will be his/her fault. The rumor, and I repeat rumor, is they are considering the baseball coach. [/quote]I have to agree. The one thing I would like to add is this: HF has an oportunity to make some waves in basketball and your new AD needs to recognize how to build a basketbal program. It's more than just going to a weight room, picking up balls in the gym for 2 months and thats it.

[quote name="sfa87" post="762560" timestamp="1266589772"] Henderson shouldve play this game and get us ready, our district was horrible and we were playing these weak teams and it will cost us, playing yates only could help us and could get us ready 2 play tha bellaire's and kingwoods [/quote] Or it could demoralize team spirit ;D

Okay, which one is it? You say HF has less talent than the other schools, but the girl's program is successful. The boy's program is not successful in the major sports. So where does the AD take credit or blame?

[quote name="Hazben" post="762129" timestamp="1266533061"] The problem seems to be with the administration,they have hired two coaches they never should have hired. They ran a coach off that went to the playoffs just about every year,but did not travel in the right circles. The district has taken huge steps backwards in the last 6-7 year that won't be fixed overnight. I would worry about the athletes that are leaving district in the last 4 years andhaving great sucess in other districts and privae schools. The numbers have droped really bad in those years. They had 3 baseball teams now trying to get 2,with only 2 seniors on varsity. And  in football now tryin to get a JV and varsity with 25 kids on varsity come on see the problems before it crashes completely. Do not let a certin social or church group influence your decisions you are making for the students. Oh by the way the girls sports are still thriving and winning, the problem is not talent its the decision makers. Hire someone the players in all sports will respect,they don't have to like him but they must respect him. If they respect him they will play for him and his staff in all sports. The girls sports are a good example @ HF. Come on guys do the right thing. [/quote]huh?So if the girl's sports is doing well, then the current AD or administration takes credit, right? So the parents and girls respect the AD and administration.

[quote name="Bucof2010" post="761800" timestamp="1266506535"] [quote author=BLUEDOVE3 link=topic=66158.msg761793#msg761793 date=1266505909] [quote author=Bucof2010 link=topic=66158.msg761647#msg761647 date=1266467774] Not shocked hf showed potential a few times this yr the basketball players there should be looking forward to next yr more than the past few [/quote]Yep, there is coming a time when East Chambers won't be able to handle HF ;D [/quote] Idk about all that ec has an awesome group coming up [/quote]bring it on! 8)

[quote name="bullets13" post="761958" timestamp="1266519564"] [quote author=BLUEDOVE3 link=topic=66193.msg761943#msg761943 date=1266518864] [quote author=bullets13 link=topic=66193.msg761903#msg761903 date=1266516707] [quote author=BLUEDOVE3 link=topic=66193.msg761796#msg761796 date=1266506058] [quote author=bullets13 link=topic=66193.msg761629#msg761629 date=1266466882] the only good news is that none of the freshmen are playing consistently well enough to make a jump to the NBA, so unless one of them has an idiot whispering in their ear, we should have a downright nasty trio of sophomores next year. [/quote]Next year!!!! I thought you guys were talking about the NCAA final 4 appearance this year????? [b]I kept saying the Big 12 teams are going to be beating each other up in conference play.[/b][/quote] you've said it about 9 times now.  congrats, you were right with an obvious statement.  as for final four appearances, who could blame us after the start they had.  still, they have a team good enough to make it, but they definitely need to make some good adjustments.  [/quote]Tx will probably make it to the tournament. LOTS OF TALENT BUT YA GOTTA DO YOUR COACHING MORESO NOW. [/quote] they'll definitely make the tourney.  a lot of quality wins, and no real bad losses.  unfortunately, they're looking at an 8 or 9 seed if they don't pick it up a little. [/quote]Yep, and seedind is very important

[quote name="bullets13" post="761903" timestamp="1266516707"] [quote author=BLUEDOVE3 link=topic=66193.msg761796#msg761796 date=1266506058] [quote author=bullets13 link=topic=66193.msg761629#msg761629 date=1266466882] the only good news is that none of the freshmen are playing consistently well enough to make a jump to the NBA, so unless one of them has an idiot whispering in their ear, we should have a downright nasty trio of sophomores next year. [/quote]Next year!!!! I thought you guys were talking about the NCAA final 4 appearance this year????? [b]I kept saying the Big 12 teams are going to be beating each other up in conference play.[/b][/quote] you've said it about 9 times now.  congrats, you were right with an obvious statement.  as for final four appearances, who could blame us after the start they had.  still, they have a team good enough to make it, but they definitely need to make some good adjustments.  [/quote]Tx will probably make it to the tournament. LOTS OF TALENT BUT YA GOTTA DO YOUR COACHING MORESO NOW.